And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
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Former Texas Mayor Accuses Winter Storm Victims Of ‘Looking For A Handout’
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Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
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Former Texas Mayor Accuses Winter Storm Victims Of ‘Looking For A Handout’
Texas has long represented a Wild West individualism that elevates personal freedom, and for the past week, residents’ freedom to freeze has been protected above all else.
The state’s prevailing Social Darwinism was expressed most succinctly by Tim Boyd, the now former Mayor of Colorado City. Boyd accused his constituents, that were trapped in near sub-zero temperatures and complaining about lack of heat, electricity and drinkable water, of being the “lazy” products of a “socialist government”. The former mayor, being a devoted trump Nazi, then said, “I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!” and predicting “only the strong will survive and the weak will perish”.
Texas has the third-highest number of billionaires in America, most of them oil tycoons. Last week, the laissez-faire state energy market delivered a bonanza to oil and gas producers that managed to keep production going during the freeze. (For the trump Nazis, laissez-faire is defined as: abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market.)
It was “like hitting the jackpot”, boasted the president of Comstock Resources on an earnings call. Jerry Jones, billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, holds a majority of Comstock’s shares.
But most other Texans were marooned, and some did perish. But, like the trump Nazis say about COVID-19, “They would have probably died soon anyway.” Or some such conservative stupidity.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages the flow of electric power, exempted affluent downtowns from outages, leaving thriving parts of Austin, Dallas, and Houston brightly lit while pushing less affluent precincts into the dark and cold.
Like the poor across America and much of the world, poor Texans are getting hammered by climate change. Many inhabit substandard homes, lacking proper insulation. The very poor occupy trailers or tents, or camp out in their cars. Lower-income communities are located close to refineries and other industrial sites that release added pollutants when they shut down or restart.
In Texas, for-profit energy companies have no incentive to prepare for extreme weather or maintain spare capacity. Even if they’re able to handle surges in demand, prices go through the roof and poorer households are hit hard. If they can’t pay, they’re cut off.
Rich Texans take spikes in energy prices in their stride. If the electric grid goes down, private generators kick in. In a pinch, like last week, the wealthy check into hotels or leave town.
On Wednesday night, as millions of his constituents remained without power and heat, Senator Ted Cruz flew to Cancun, Mexico for a family vacation. Upon their rapid return from “vacation”, Mrs. Cruz said, “Their Houston home was ‘FREEZING.’”
Climate change, Covid-19 and jobs are together splitting Americans by class considerably more than Americans are split by politics. The white working class is taking as much of a beating as most Black and Latino people.
Yet the white working class has been seduced by conservative Republicans and trump Nazis, of which Texas has an abundance, into believing that what’s good for Black and Latino people is bad for them, and that whites are, or should be, on the winning side of the Social Darwinian contest.
White grievance put the Republicans in power and helps keep the Republicans in power. The GOP’s control of the government guarantees they can protect their rich political contributors from the over 300 million “rabble” that might otherwise join to demand the basic needs. Basic needs which most Americans were taught were part of the American Dream. In Texas, the citizens’ needs such as heat, electricity, water and reliable sources of power, can be quickly limited to those that live in the “affluent” sections of the state.
Despite the lower-income trump Nazis’ denial, they are no better off than Blacks and Latinos in Texas. Texas is one of the few states that hasn’t expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, leaving the percentage of Texans without health insurance twice the national average, the largest uninsured population of any state. Also, Texas has double the national average of children in poverty and a higher rate of unemployment than the nation’s average.
And although Texans have suffered multiple natural disasters stemming from climate change, Texas Republicans are dead set against a Green New Deal that would help reduce the horrific impacts.
Last Wednesday, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, went on Fox News and stupidly proclaimed, that what happened to his state “shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States”. Abbott blamed the power failure on the fact that “wind and solar got shut down”.
Naturally, trump’s Nazis believed Abbott’s every lie. However, the loss of power from frozen coal-fired and natural gas plants was six times larger than the dent caused by frozen wind turbines. Texans froze because deregulation and a profit-driven free market created an electric grid utterly unprepared for climate change. And regardless of the trump’s Nazis’ denial, climate change is only going to make events like this in Texas more frequent occurrences.
The oil tycoons are the only winners from climate change in Texas. Everyone else is losing badly. Adapting to extreme weather is necessary, but it’s no substitute for cutting emissions, which Texas is loath to do. So, for trump’s Nazis in the Lone Star state, you should consider it your patriotic duty to be always prepared to protect your freedom to freeze to death. But, always know, your deaths were also to protect your home states’ rights to forever be unprepared for any disaster.
‘Only the strong will survive’: Former Texas mayor accuses winter storm victims of ‘looking for a handout’ | News Break
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No kidding, almost as bad as Cuomo expecting handouts.
The same with hurricane Sandy hitting Jersey and New York, they should not have gotten federal money after the government allowed them to build homes that would collapse in the wind?And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars?
They had contracts for power at wholesale market rates without a cap on how much they can be charged. For several days those folks were charged like 9 dollar per KW hour when it is normally pennies. It's buyer beware in the Texas power market.
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
Living in Florida I know I must prepare for hurricanes. It is my responsibility to take care of my well being, not the government. If a hurricane hits and I suffer then it is my own fault, not somebody's else.
If that high pressure area that kept the cold front out of Florida had been further away then Florida would have had record low temperatures, like Texas. It was my responsibility to be prepared for things like that. If I don't prepare then I have nobody to blame but myself. Even if the electricity goes out, or the pipes burst and there is no water, I get cold or the grocery store runs out of food.
I am not going to cry about natural disasters. Shit happens. I am not going to depend upon somebody else to take care of me.
It is called personal responsibility. Something Liberals never seem to understand.
Tell that to Ty
Residents in the Lone Star State on variable rate electricity plans are reporting bills as high as $17,000 for less than one month of service, after surging demand and dwindling supply caused prices to skyrocket more than 10,000 percent during the deep freeze.
“How in the world can anyone pay that? I mean you go from a couple hundred dollars a month … there’s absolutely no way … it makes no sense,” Ty Williams, who racked up more than $17,000 in charges, told Dallas local news station WFAA.
He should have to pay this bill.
The high charges all come down to Texas’ independent, deregulated power grid — the only system of its kind in the continental US.
In theory, this approach offers consumers greater choice and control — Texans are given the option of choosing from hundreds of power companies that offer a myriad of plans and power types spanning natural gas, wind, solar, and geothermal.
Proponents of a privatized system also argue that the competition encourages companies to produce more, and better, types of energy.
However, the market-oriented system backfired last week when more than a third of the state’s power grid went offline amid historically low temperatures — causing the price of desperately-needed power to shoot up.
You roll the dice and sometimes you lose.
“Variable rate plans are predatory as we all clearly are seeing now! Who did they target with those plans and what did they tell them?” the tweet read.
Hundreds of Texans responded, showing screenshots of their energy bills and how the cost of power was more than a thousand dollars a day during the storm.
“We were largely w/o power & when we had it, just ran the heater long enough to get the house to 45°. One day later (thru 2/20) & the bill went from $3,247 to $4,453,” one Texan responded with a screenshot of her bill.
“It’s now up to $2,550 for only half a month! I live in a 990 sqft apt and the heat was only set to 65 the whole time. To add insult to injury, I wasn’t even home during this time, so no lights were on! Never in a million years did I think it would cost $1,000 per day!” another wrote alongside a photo of their debilitating bill.
Others confessed to canceling their credit cards to avoid going into high-interest debt over the exorbitant costs, while some paid the bill and emptied their savings accounts in the process.
On Saturday, Gov. Greg Abbott convened an emergency meeting with the state legislature to discuss how they could fix the fresh crisis.
“We have a responsibility to protect Texans from spikes in their energy bills that are a result of the severe winter weather and power outages,” Abbott wrote in a subsequent news release.
“Today’s meeting was productive, and I applaud Republican and Democrat members of the Legislature for putting aside partisan politics to work together on this challenge. We are moving quickly to alleviate this problem and will continue to work collaboratively throughout this week on solutions to help Texas families and ensure they do not get stuck with skyrocketing energy bills.”
Abbott will discuss the power crisis again during a statewide address slated for Wednesday evening. Until then, Texans with the high bills will remain in limbo.
Texans emerge from winter storm only to face astronomical energy costs
As Texas begins to recover from the historic winter storm which battered the state — bringing freezing temperatures, power outages and water shortages — a new crisis has emerged: astron…
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Oh I'll help Texas rebuild but those people need to pay those energy bills. They liked their bills when the deregulations made their bills lower so they have to accept the higher bills now.The same with hurricane Sandy hitting Jersey and New York, they should not have gotten federal money after the government allowed them to build homes that would collapse in the wind?And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars?
They had contracts for power at wholesale market rates without a cap on how much they can be charged. For several days those folks were charged like 9 dollar per KW hour when it is normally pennies. It's buyer beware in the Texas power market.
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
Oh I'll help Texas rebuild but those people need to pay those energy bills. They liked their bills when the deregulations made their bills lower so they have to accept the higher bills now.The same with hurricane Sandy hitting Jersey and New York, they should not have gotten federal money after the government allowed them to build homes that would collapse in the wind?And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars?
They had contracts for power at wholesale market rates without a cap on how much they can be charged. For several days those folks were charged like 9 dollar per KW hour when it is normally pennies. It's buyer beware in the Texas power market.
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
What deregulation? When did that happen? So far you keep making claims and when I ask you about them, you change it up, why is that?
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Well, but nonetheless you bought that house, right?Texas lies on the latitude of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. It is doubtful many countries bother about winterizing on such latitudes.
We live in Houston. The pipes in our house were laid on top of the insulation! That's how worried about winterizing they were when they built it.
Excellent..
Former Texas Mayor Accuses Winter Storm Victims Of ‘Looking For A Handout’
Texas has long represented a Wild West individualism that elevates personal freedom, and for the past week, residents’ freedom to freeze has been protected above all else.
The state’s prevailing Social Darwinism was expressed most succinctly by Tim Boyd, the now former Mayor of Colorado City. Boyd accused his constituents, that were trapped in near sub-zero temperatures and complaining about lack of heat, electricity and drinkable water, of being the “lazy” products of a “socialist government”. The former mayor, being a devoted trump Nazi, then said, “I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!” and predicting “only the strong will survive and the weak will perish”.
Texas has the third-highest number of billionaires in America, most of them oil tycoons. Last week, the laissez-faire state energy market delivered a bonanza to oil and gas producers that managed to keep production going during the freeze. (For the trump Nazis, laissez-faire is defined as: abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market.)
It was “like hitting the jackpot”, boasted the president of Comstock Resources on an earnings call. Jerry Jones, billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, holds a majority of Comstock’s shares.
But most other Texans were marooned, and some did perish. But, like the trump Nazis say about COVID-19, “They would have probably died soon anyway.” Or some such conservative stupidity.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages the flow of electric power, exempted affluent downtowns from outages, leaving thriving parts of Austin, Dallas, and Houston brightly lit while pushing less affluent precincts into the dark and cold.
Like the poor across America and much of the world, poor Texans are getting hammered by climate change. Many inhabit substandard homes, lacking proper insulation. The very poor occupy trailers or tents, or camp out in their cars. Lower-income communities are located close to refineries and other industrial sites that release added pollutants when they shut down or restart.
In Texas, for-profit energy companies have no incentive to prepare for extreme weather or maintain spare capacity. Even if they’re able to handle surges in demand, prices go through the roof and poorer households are hit hard. If they can’t pay, they’re cut off.
Rich Texans take spikes in energy prices in their stride. If the electric grid goes down, private generators kick in. In a pinch, like last week, the wealthy check into hotels or leave town.
On Wednesday night, as millions of his constituents remained without power and heat, Senator Ted Cruz flew to Cancun, Mexico for a family vacation. Upon their rapid return from “vacation”, Mrs. Cruz said, “Their Houston home was ‘FREEZING.’”
Climate change, Covid-19 and jobs are together splitting Americans by class considerably more than Americans are split by politics. The white working class is taking as much of a beating as most Black and Latino people.
Yet the white working class has been seduced by conservative Republicans and trump Nazis, of which Texas has an abundance, into believing that what’s good for Black and Latino people is bad for them, and that whites are, or should be, on the winning side of the Social Darwinian contest.
White grievance put the Republicans in power and helps keep the Republicans in power. The GOP’s control of the government guarantees they can protect their rich political contributors from the over 300 million “rabble” that might otherwise join to demand the basic needs. Basic needs which most Americans were taught were part of the American Dream. In Texas, the citizens’ needs such as heat, electricity, water and reliable sources of power, can be quickly limited to those that live in the “affluent” sections of the state.
Despite the lower-income trump Nazis’ denial, they are no better off than Blacks and Latinos in Texas. Texas is one of the few states that hasn’t expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, leaving the percentage of Texans without health insurance twice the national average, the largest uninsured population of any state. Also, Texas has double the national average of children in poverty and a higher rate of unemployment than the nation’s average.
And although Texans have suffered multiple natural disasters stemming from climate change, Texas Republicans are dead set against a Green New Deal that would help reduce the horrific impacts.
Last Wednesday, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, went on Fox News and stupidly proclaimed, that what happened to his state “shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States”. Abbott blamed the power failure on the fact that “wind and solar got shut down”.
Naturally, trump’s Nazis believed Abbott’s every lie. However, the loss of power from frozen coal-fired and natural gas plants was six times larger than the dent caused by frozen wind turbines. Texans froze because deregulation and a profit-driven free market created an electric grid utterly unprepared for climate change. And regardless of the trump’s Nazis’ denial, climate change is only going to make events like this in Texas more frequent occurrences.
The oil tycoons are the only winners from climate change in Texas. Everyone else is losing badly. Adapting to extreme weather is necessary, but it’s no substitute for cutting emissions, which Texas is loath to do. So, for trump’s Nazis in the Lone Star state, you should consider it your patriotic duty to be always prepared to protect your freedom to freeze to death. But, always know, your deaths were also to protect your home states’ rights to forever be unprepared for any disaster.
‘Only the strong will survive’: Former Texas mayor accuses winter storm victims of ‘looking for a handout’ | News Break
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And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars?
They had contracts for power at wholesale market rates without a cap on how much they can be charged. For several days those folks were charged like 9 dollar per KW hour when it is normally pennies. It's buyer beware in the Texas power market.
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
I didn't vote for it or any of the Republicans who did, but I had a choice to buy from the wholesale outfit too. I didn't.
I think it's between the power company that sold them the plan and the customer and now the State. Not me.
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Well, but nonetheless you bought that house, right?Texas lies on the latitude of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. It is doubtful many countries bother about winterizing on such latitudes.
We live in Houston. The pipes in our house were laid on top of the insulation! That's how worried about winterizing they were when they built it.
We did. That winter it got colder than this year and for longer too. Pipes froze all over the neighbor that night.
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Living in Florida I know I must prepare for hurricanes. It is my responsibility to take care of my well being, not the government. If a hurricane hits and I suffer then it is my own fault, not somebody's else.
If that high pressure area that kept the cold front out of Florida had been further away then Florida would have had record low temperatures, like Texas. It was my responsibility to be prepared for things like that. If I don't prepare then I have nobody to blame but myself. Even if the electricity goes out, or the pipes burst and there is no water, I get cold or the grocery store runs out of food.
I am not going to cry about natural disasters. Shit happens. I am not going to depend upon somebody else to take care of me.
It is called personal responsibility. Something Liberals never seem to understand.
Tell that to Ty
Residents in the Lone Star State on variable rate electricity plans are reporting bills as high as $17,000 for less than one month of service, after surging demand and dwindling supply caused prices to skyrocket more than 10,000 percent during the deep freeze.
“How in the world can anyone pay that? I mean you go from a couple hundred dollars a month … there’s absolutely no way … it makes no sense,” Ty Williams, who racked up more than $17,000 in charges, told Dallas local news station WFAA.
He should have to pay this bill.
The high charges all come down to Texas’ independent, deregulated power grid — the only system of its kind in the continental US.
In theory, this approach offers consumers greater choice and control — Texans are given the option of choosing from hundreds of power companies that offer a myriad of plans and power types spanning natural gas, wind, solar, and geothermal.
Proponents of a privatized system also argue that the competition encourages companies to produce more, and better, types of energy.
However, the market-oriented system backfired last week when more than a third of the state’s power grid went offline amid historically low temperatures — causing the price of desperately-needed power to shoot up.
You roll the dice and sometimes you lose.
“Variable rate plans are predatory as we all clearly are seeing now! Who did they target with those plans and what did they tell them?” the tweet read.
Hundreds of Texans responded, showing screenshots of their energy bills and how the cost of power was more than a thousand dollars a day during the storm.
“We were largely w/o power & when we had it, just ran the heater long enough to get the house to 45°. One day later (thru 2/20) & the bill went from $3,247 to $4,453,” one Texan responded with a screenshot of her bill.
“It’s now up to $2,550 for only half a month! I live in a 990 sqft apt and the heat was only set to 65 the whole time. To add insult to injury, I wasn’t even home during this time, so no lights were on! Never in a million years did I think it would cost $1,000 per day!” another wrote alongside a photo of their debilitating bill.
Others confessed to canceling their credit cards to avoid going into high-interest debt over the exorbitant costs, while some paid the bill and emptied their savings accounts in the process.
On Saturday, Gov. Greg Abbott convened an emergency meeting with the state legislature to discuss how they could fix the fresh crisis.
“We have a responsibility to protect Texans from spikes in their energy bills that are a result of the severe winter weather and power outages,” Abbott wrote in a subsequent news release.
“Today’s meeting was productive, and I applaud Republican and Democrat members of the Legislature for putting aside partisan politics to work together on this challenge. We are moving quickly to alleviate this problem and will continue to work collaboratively throughout this week on solutions to help Texas families and ensure they do not get stuck with skyrocketing energy bills.”
Abbott will discuss the power crisis again during a statewide address slated for Wednesday evening. Until then, Texans with the high bills will remain in limbo.
Texans emerge from winter storm only to face astronomical energy costs
As Texas begins to recover from the historic winter storm which battered the state — bringing freezing temperatures, power outages and water shortages — a new crisis has emerged: astron…
Quit your whining.
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How long did it take you to get the pipes repaired? Was there spike in prices for plumber services?Well, but nonetheless you bought that house, right?Texas lies on the latitude of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. It is doubtful many countries bother about winterizing on such latitudes.
We live in Houston. The pipes in our house were laid on top of the insulation! That's how worried about winterizing they were when they built it.
We did. That winter it got colder than this year and for longer too. Pipes froze all over the neighbor that night.
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The stupidity of Texans goes back centuries. When a society built on idiocy refuses to see the truth staring them in their faces for over 200 years, there is no point in wasting time in any attempt to educate or inform them.I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars? Similar to the people who got those stupid sub prime loans during the mortgage crisis? Is this true?Yes, the Republican officials were quick to do nothing to help the people of their state. It took progressives from other states jumping into action to help the trump Nazis in Texas survive their decades of stupidity.Texas may be an extreme case, with its decadeslong policies of deregulation and isolationism enabling a rickety, unweatherized power grid.He's probably right in 90% of the cases. Lefties always have their hands out for something for nothing..
Former Texas Mayor Accuses Winter Storm Victims Of ‘Looking For A Handout’
Texas has long represented a Wild West individualism that elevates personal freedom, and for the past week, residents’ freedom to freeze has been protected above all else.
The state’s prevailing Social Darwinism was expressed most succinctly by Tim Boyd, the now former Mayor of Colorado City. Boyd accused his constituents, that were trapped in near sub-zero temperatures and complaining about lack of heat, electricity and drinkable water, of being the “lazy” products of a “socialist government”. The former mayor, being a devoted trump Nazi, then said, “I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!” and predicting “only the strong will survive and the weak will perish”.
Texas has the third-highest number of billionaires in America, most of them oil tycoons. Last week, the laissez-faire state energy market delivered a bonanza to oil and gas producers that managed to keep production going during the freeze. (For the trump Nazis, laissez-faire is defined as: abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market.)
It was “like hitting the jackpot”, boasted the president of Comstock Resources on an earnings call. Jerry Jones, billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, holds a majority of Comstock’s shares.
But most other Texans were marooned, and some did perish. But, like the trump Nazis say about COVID-19, “They would have probably died soon anyway.” Or some such conservative stupidity.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages the flow of electric power, exempted affluent downtowns from outages, leaving thriving parts of Austin, Dallas, and Houston brightly lit while pushing less affluent precincts into the dark and cold.
Like the poor across America and much of the world, poor Texans are getting hammered by climate change. Many inhabit substandard homes, lacking proper insulation. The very poor occupy trailers or tents, or camp out in their cars. Lower-income communities are located close to refineries and other industrial sites that release added pollutants when they shut down or restart.
In Texas, for-profit energy companies have no incentive to prepare for extreme weather or maintain spare capacity. Even if they’re able to handle surges in demand, prices go through the roof and poorer households are hit hard. If they can’t pay, they’re cut off.
Rich Texans take spikes in energy prices in their stride. If the electric grid goes down, private generators kick in. In a pinch, like last week, the wealthy check into hotels or leave town.
On Wednesday night, as millions of his constituents remained without power and heat, Senator Ted Cruz flew to Cancun, Mexico for a family vacation. Upon their rapid return from “vacation”, Mrs. Cruz said, “Their Houston home was ‘FREEZING.’”
Climate change, Covid-19 and jobs are together splitting Americans by class considerably more than Americans are split by politics. The white working class is taking as much of a beating as most Black and Latino people.
Yet the white working class has been seduced by conservative Republicans and trump Nazis, of which Texas has an abundance, into believing that what’s good for Black and Latino people is bad for them, and that whites are, or should be, on the winning side of the Social Darwinian contest.
White grievance put the Republicans in power and helps keep the Republicans in power. The GOP’s control of the government guarantees they can protect their rich political contributors from the over 300 million “rabble” that might otherwise join to demand the basic needs. Basic needs which most Americans were taught were part of the American Dream. In Texas, the citizens’ needs such as heat, electricity, water and reliable sources of power, can be quickly limited to those that live in the “affluent” sections of the state.
Despite the lower-income trump Nazis’ denial, they are no better off than Blacks and Latinos in Texas. Texas is one of the few states that hasn’t expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, leaving the percentage of Texans without health insurance twice the national average, the largest uninsured population of any state. Also, Texas has double the national average of children in poverty and a higher rate of unemployment than the nation’s average.
And although Texans have suffered multiple natural disasters stemming from climate change, Texas Republicans are dead set against a Green New Deal that would help reduce the horrific impacts.
Last Wednesday, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, went on Fox News and stupidly proclaimed, that what happened to his state “shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States”. Abbott blamed the power failure on the fact that “wind and solar got shut down”.
Naturally, trump’s Nazis believed Abbott’s every lie. However, the loss of power from frozen coal-fired and natural gas plants was six times larger than the dent caused by frozen wind turbines. Texans froze because deregulation and a profit-driven free market created an electric grid utterly unprepared for climate change. And regardless of the trump’s Nazis’ denial, climate change is only going to make events like this in Texas more frequent occurrences.
The oil tycoons are the only winners from climate change in Texas. Everyone else is losing badly. Adapting to extreme weather is necessary, but it’s no substitute for cutting emissions, which Texas is loath to do. So, for trump’s Nazis in the Lone Star state, you should consider it your patriotic duty to be always prepared to protect your freedom to freeze to death. But, always know, your deaths were also to protect your home states’ rights to forever be unprepared for any disaster.
‘Only the strong will survive’: Former Texas mayor accuses winter storm victims of ‘looking for a handout’ | News Break
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The leftists who saved Texas
When the government won't save us, we have to save ourselves.www.msnbc.com
The history of ERCOT: How Texas became the only state with its own power grid
The council that controls the flow of most of the state’s power is under new, fierce scrutiny.www.kxan.com
Still, the trump Nazis in Texas, and the rest of the nation will praise the many benefits of deregulation and the unregulated free market capitalism the left them in the cold and wet, to freeze and die.
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They should have to pay those extreme bills. If they gambled and lost then they have to pay.
There is a truism that has long, and accurately, described Texans: "You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much." Their experience with the power grid was predicted, and when it occurred, their go-to-response, blame someone who had no part in their inevitable fvck up.
The trump Nazis in Texas won't accept the facts for the cause, but they will believe every lie they are told when liberals are blamed for the outage, and they will resist every attempt to regulate their power grid, hold those in charge accountable, or demand the necessary upgrades be addressed.
Next time, will be a repeat of this years power grid shutdown, Republican authorities will do nothing (except blame the liberals), Democrats from blue states like AOC will be the first to take action to help the victims, and the trump Nazis will continue to pi$$ and moan about the "socialist" Democrats, and be waiting in line for these same Democrats' collected donations to help them survive to do it all again.
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You and Frenchy are the only ones I hear whining about it. Real Texans realize that it was a one hundred year weather event that could not be predicted with any accuracy and they suck it up and carry on. Who wiped your nose for you the a.m, AOC?The stupidity of Texans goes back centuries. When a society built on idiocy refuses to see the truth staring them in their faces for over 200 years, there is no point in wasting time in any attempt to educate or inform them.I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars? Similar to the people who got those stupid sub prime loans during the mortgage crisis? Is this true?Yes, the Republican officials were quick to do nothing to help the people of their state. It took progressives from other states jumping into action to help the trump Nazis in Texas survive their decades of stupidity.Texas may be an extreme case, with its decadeslong policies of deregulation and isolationism enabling a rickety, unweatherized power grid.He's probably right in 90% of the cases. Lefties always have their hands out for something for nothing..
Former Texas Mayor Accuses Winter Storm Victims Of ‘Looking For A Handout’
Texas has long represented a Wild West individualism that elevates personal freedom, and for the past week, residents’ freedom to freeze has been protected above all else.
The state’s prevailing Social Darwinism was expressed most succinctly by Tim Boyd, the now former Mayor of Colorado City. Boyd accused his constituents, that were trapped in near sub-zero temperatures and complaining about lack of heat, electricity and drinkable water, of being the “lazy” products of a “socialist government”. The former mayor, being a devoted trump Nazi, then said, “I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!” and predicting “only the strong will survive and the weak will perish”.
Texas has the third-highest number of billionaires in America, most of them oil tycoons. Last week, the laissez-faire state energy market delivered a bonanza to oil and gas producers that managed to keep production going during the freeze. (For the trump Nazis, laissez-faire is defined as: abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market.)
It was “like hitting the jackpot”, boasted the president of Comstock Resources on an earnings call. Jerry Jones, billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, holds a majority of Comstock’s shares.
But most other Texans were marooned, and some did perish. But, like the trump Nazis say about COVID-19, “They would have probably died soon anyway.” Or some such conservative stupidity.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages the flow of electric power, exempted affluent downtowns from outages, leaving thriving parts of Austin, Dallas, and Houston brightly lit while pushing less affluent precincts into the dark and cold.
Like the poor across America and much of the world, poor Texans are getting hammered by climate change. Many inhabit substandard homes, lacking proper insulation. The very poor occupy trailers or tents, or camp out in their cars. Lower-income communities are located close to refineries and other industrial sites that release added pollutants when they shut down or restart.
In Texas, for-profit energy companies have no incentive to prepare for extreme weather or maintain spare capacity. Even if they’re able to handle surges in demand, prices go through the roof and poorer households are hit hard. If they can’t pay, they’re cut off.
Rich Texans take spikes in energy prices in their stride. If the electric grid goes down, private generators kick in. In a pinch, like last week, the wealthy check into hotels or leave town.
On Wednesday night, as millions of his constituents remained without power and heat, Senator Ted Cruz flew to Cancun, Mexico for a family vacation. Upon their rapid return from “vacation”, Mrs. Cruz said, “Their Houston home was ‘FREEZING.’”
Climate change, Covid-19 and jobs are together splitting Americans by class considerably more than Americans are split by politics. The white working class is taking as much of a beating as most Black and Latino people.
Yet the white working class has been seduced by conservative Republicans and trump Nazis, of which Texas has an abundance, into believing that what’s good for Black and Latino people is bad for them, and that whites are, or should be, on the winning side of the Social Darwinian contest.
White grievance put the Republicans in power and helps keep the Republicans in power. The GOP’s control of the government guarantees they can protect their rich political contributors from the over 300 million “rabble” that might otherwise join to demand the basic needs. Basic needs which most Americans were taught were part of the American Dream. In Texas, the citizens’ needs such as heat, electricity, water and reliable sources of power, can be quickly limited to those that live in the “affluent” sections of the state.
Despite the lower-income trump Nazis’ denial, they are no better off than Blacks and Latinos in Texas. Texas is one of the few states that hasn’t expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, leaving the percentage of Texans without health insurance twice the national average, the largest uninsured population of any state. Also, Texas has double the national average of children in poverty and a higher rate of unemployment than the nation’s average.
And although Texans have suffered multiple natural disasters stemming from climate change, Texas Republicans are dead set against a Green New Deal that would help reduce the horrific impacts.
Last Wednesday, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, went on Fox News and stupidly proclaimed, that what happened to his state “shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States”. Abbott blamed the power failure on the fact that “wind and solar got shut down”.
Naturally, trump’s Nazis believed Abbott’s every lie. However, the loss of power from frozen coal-fired and natural gas plants was six times larger than the dent caused by frozen wind turbines. Texans froze because deregulation and a profit-driven free market created an electric grid utterly unprepared for climate change. And regardless of the trump’s Nazis’ denial, climate change is only going to make events like this in Texas more frequent occurrences.
The oil tycoons are the only winners from climate change in Texas. Everyone else is losing badly. Adapting to extreme weather is necessary, but it’s no substitute for cutting emissions, which Texas is loath to do. So, for trump’s Nazis in the Lone Star state, you should consider it your patriotic duty to be always prepared to protect your freedom to freeze to death. But, always know, your deaths were also to protect your home states’ rights to forever be unprepared for any disaster.
‘Only the strong will survive’: Former Texas mayor accuses winter storm victims of ‘looking for a handout’ | News Break
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The leftists who saved Texas
When the government won't save us, we have to save ourselves.
The history of ERCOT: How Texas became the only state with its own power grid
The council that controls the flow of most of the state’s power is under new, fierce scrutiny.
Still, the trump Nazis in Texas, and the rest of the nation will praise the many benefits of deregulation and the unregulated free market capitalism the left them in the cold and wet, to freeze and die.
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They should have to pay those extreme bills. If they gambled and lost then they have to pay.
There is a truism that has long, and accurately, described Texans: "You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much." Their experience with the power grid was predicted, and when it occurred, their go-to-response, blame someone who had no part in their inevitable fvck up.
The trump Nazis in Texas won't accept the facts for the cause, but they will believe every lie they are told when liberals are blamed for the outage, and they will resist every attempt to regulate their power grid, hold those in charge accountable, or demand the necessary upgrades be addressed.
Next time, will be a repeat of this years power grid shutdown, Republican authorities will do nothing (except blame the liberals), Democrats from blue states like AOC will be the first to take action to help the victims, and the trump Nazis will continue to pi$$ and moan about the "socialist" Democrats, and be waiting in line for these same Democrats' collected donations to help them survive to do it all again.
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Yikes!
I've lived in hurricane country, earthquake country, freezing country, tornado country, avalanche country .... etc
I have ALWAYS had an emergency kit at the ready.
When I'm informed of life threatening weather, I make sure my ER kit is up to date.
The Texans who 'lost' didn't prepare. (they were probably from California)
Why should that be anyone's fault but their own?
I've lived in hurricane country, earthquake country, freezing country, tornado country, avalanche country .... etc
I have ALWAYS had an emergency kit at the ready.
When I'm informed of life threatening weather, I make sure my ER kit is up to date.
The Texans who 'lost' didn't prepare. (they were probably from California)
Why should that be anyone's fault but their own?
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Living in Florida I know I must prepare for hurricanes. It is my responsibility to take care of my well being, not the government. If a hurricane hits and I suffer then it is my own fault, not somebody's else.
If that high pressure area that kept the cold front out of Florida had been further away then Florida would have had record low temperatures, like Texas. It was my responsibility to be prepared for things like that. If I don't prepare then I have nobody to blame but myself. Even if the electricity goes out, or the pipes burst and there is no water, I get cold or the grocery store runs out of food.
I am not going to cry about natural disasters. Shit happens. I am not going to depend upon somebody else to take care of me.
It is called personal responsibility. Something Liberals never seem to understand.
Tell that to Ty
Residents in the Lone Star State on variable rate electricity plans are reporting bills as high as $17,000 for less than one month of service, after surging demand and dwindling supply caused prices to skyrocket more than 10,000 percent during the deep freeze.
“How in the world can anyone pay that? I mean you go from a couple hundred dollars a month … there’s absolutely no way … it makes no sense,” Ty Williams, who racked up more than $17,000 in charges, told Dallas local news station WFAA.
He should have to pay this bill.
The high charges all come down to Texas’ independent, deregulated power grid — the only system of its kind in the continental US.
In theory, this approach offers consumers greater choice and control — Texans are given the option of choosing from hundreds of power companies that offer a myriad of plans and power types spanning natural gas, wind, solar, and geothermal.
Proponents of a privatized system also argue that the competition encourages companies to produce more, and better, types of energy.
However, the market-oriented system backfired last week when more than a third of the state’s power grid went offline amid historically low temperatures — causing the price of desperately-needed power to shoot up.
You roll the dice and sometimes you lose.
“Variable rate plans are predatory as we all clearly are seeing now! Who did they target with those plans and what did they tell them?” the tweet read.
Hundreds of Texans responded, showing screenshots of their energy bills and how the cost of power was more than a thousand dollars a day during the storm.
“We were largely w/o power & when we had it, just ran the heater long enough to get the house to 45°. One day later (thru 2/20) & the bill went from $3,247 to $4,453,” one Texan responded with a screenshot of her bill.
“It’s now up to $2,550 for only half a month! I live in a 990 sqft apt and the heat was only set to 65 the whole time. To add insult to injury, I wasn’t even home during this time, so no lights were on! Never in a million years did I think it would cost $1,000 per day!” another wrote alongside a photo of their debilitating bill.
Others confessed to canceling their credit cards to avoid going into high-interest debt over the exorbitant costs, while some paid the bill and emptied their savings accounts in the process.
On Saturday, Gov. Greg Abbott convened an emergency meeting with the state legislature to discuss how they could fix the fresh crisis.
“We have a responsibility to protect Texans from spikes in their energy bills that are a result of the severe winter weather and power outages,” Abbott wrote in a subsequent news release.
“Today’s meeting was productive, and I applaud Republican and Democrat members of the Legislature for putting aside partisan politics to work together on this challenge. We are moving quickly to alleviate this problem and will continue to work collaboratively throughout this week on solutions to help Texas families and ensure they do not get stuck with skyrocketing energy bills.”
Abbott will discuss the power crisis again during a statewide address slated for Wednesday evening. Until then, Texans with the high bills will remain in limbo.
Texans emerge from winter storm only to face astronomical energy costs
As Texas begins to recover from the historic winter storm which battered the state — bringing freezing temperatures, power outages and water shortages — a new crisis has emerged: astron…
ROFL!
The electric company has already stated they would roll back the costs.
The old regulation said you couldn’t have sub prime bills that are low but could skyrocket up to $14,000 a month. Us liberals would never allow such a bad deal. The people who signed those are crying now it’s too much. Did they not understand what they signed up for? Sounds like republicans in Texas are stupid. Buyer beware.Oh I'll help Texas rebuild but those people need to pay those energy bills. They liked their bills when the deregulations made their bills lower so they have to accept the higher bills now.The same with hurricane Sandy hitting Jersey and New York, they should not have gotten federal money after the government allowed them to build homes that would collapse in the wind?And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars?
They had contracts for power at wholesale market rates without a cap on how much they can be charged. For several days those folks were charged like 9 dollar per KW hour when it is normally pennies. It's buyer beware in the Texas power market.
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
What deregulation? When did that happen? So far you keep making claims and when I ask you about them, you change it up, why is that?
Republicans deregulated this. Get it?
The consumers need to pay. They should have known the risks. If you got a $10,000 bill in one month you owe that money.And the people of Texas voted for it so they can’t really cry about it now. Are any usmb republicans admitting their policies fucked those Texans?I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars?
They had contracts for power at wholesale market rates without a cap on how much they can be charged. For several days those folks were charged like 9 dollar per KW hour when it is normally pennies. It's buyer beware in the Texas power market.
Are those people going to have to pay those extreme bills? They should have to.
I didn't vote for it or any of the Republicans who did, but I had a choice to buy from the wholesale outfit too. I didn't.
I think it's between the power company that sold them the plan and the customer and now the State. Not me.
It’s like going to the casino and betting your rent money. The casino is a business and isn’t going to forgive or give you your money back. I just don’t want to hear Texans asking for relief
Texas has its own power grid. I think they are the only state to be completely independent. The feds need to stay out of this. This is a state issue.The stupidity of Texans goes back centuries. When a society built on idiocy refuses to see the truth staring them in their faces for over 200 years, there is no point in wasting time in any attempt to educate or inform them.I also heard people’s bills went up to thousands of dollars? Similar to the people who got those stupid sub prime loans during the mortgage crisis? Is this true?Yes, the Republican officials were quick to do nothing to help the people of their state. It took progressives from other states jumping into action to help the trump Nazis in Texas survive their decades of stupidity.Texas may be an extreme case, with its decadeslong policies of deregulation and isolationism enabling a rickety, unweatherized power grid.He's probably right in 90% of the cases. Lefties always have their hands out for something for nothing..
Former Texas Mayor Accuses Winter Storm Victims Of ‘Looking For A Handout’
Texas has long represented a Wild West individualism that elevates personal freedom, and for the past week, residents’ freedom to freeze has been protected above all else.
The state’s prevailing Social Darwinism was expressed most succinctly by Tim Boyd, the now former Mayor of Colorado City. Boyd accused his constituents, that were trapped in near sub-zero temperatures and complaining about lack of heat, electricity and drinkable water, of being the “lazy” products of a “socialist government”. The former mayor, being a devoted trump Nazi, then said, “I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!” and predicting “only the strong will survive and the weak will perish”.
Texas has the third-highest number of billionaires in America, most of them oil tycoons. Last week, the laissez-faire state energy market delivered a bonanza to oil and gas producers that managed to keep production going during the freeze. (For the trump Nazis, laissez-faire is defined as: abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market.)
It was “like hitting the jackpot”, boasted the president of Comstock Resources on an earnings call. Jerry Jones, billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, holds a majority of Comstock’s shares.
But most other Texans were marooned, and some did perish. But, like the trump Nazis say about COVID-19, “They would have probably died soon anyway.” Or some such conservative stupidity.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages the flow of electric power, exempted affluent downtowns from outages, leaving thriving parts of Austin, Dallas, and Houston brightly lit while pushing less affluent precincts into the dark and cold.
Like the poor across America and much of the world, poor Texans are getting hammered by climate change. Many inhabit substandard homes, lacking proper insulation. The very poor occupy trailers or tents, or camp out in their cars. Lower-income communities are located close to refineries and other industrial sites that release added pollutants when they shut down or restart.
In Texas, for-profit energy companies have no incentive to prepare for extreme weather or maintain spare capacity. Even if they’re able to handle surges in demand, prices go through the roof and poorer households are hit hard. If they can’t pay, they’re cut off.
Rich Texans take spikes in energy prices in their stride. If the electric grid goes down, private generators kick in. In a pinch, like last week, the wealthy check into hotels or leave town.
On Wednesday night, as millions of his constituents remained without power and heat, Senator Ted Cruz flew to Cancun, Mexico for a family vacation. Upon their rapid return from “vacation”, Mrs. Cruz said, “Their Houston home was ‘FREEZING.’”
Climate change, Covid-19 and jobs are together splitting Americans by class considerably more than Americans are split by politics. The white working class is taking as much of a beating as most Black and Latino people.
Yet the white working class has been seduced by conservative Republicans and trump Nazis, of which Texas has an abundance, into believing that what’s good for Black and Latino people is bad for them, and that whites are, or should be, on the winning side of the Social Darwinian contest.
White grievance put the Republicans in power and helps keep the Republicans in power. The GOP’s control of the government guarantees they can protect their rich political contributors from the over 300 million “rabble” that might otherwise join to demand the basic needs. Basic needs which most Americans were taught were part of the American Dream. In Texas, the citizens’ needs such as heat, electricity, water and reliable sources of power, can be quickly limited to those that live in the “affluent” sections of the state.
Despite the lower-income trump Nazis’ denial, they are no better off than Blacks and Latinos in Texas. Texas is one of the few states that hasn’t expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, leaving the percentage of Texans without health insurance twice the national average, the largest uninsured population of any state. Also, Texas has double the national average of children in poverty and a higher rate of unemployment than the nation’s average.
And although Texans have suffered multiple natural disasters stemming from climate change, Texas Republicans are dead set against a Green New Deal that would help reduce the horrific impacts.
Last Wednesday, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, went on Fox News and stupidly proclaimed, that what happened to his state “shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States”. Abbott blamed the power failure on the fact that “wind and solar got shut down”.
Naturally, trump’s Nazis believed Abbott’s every lie. However, the loss of power from frozen coal-fired and natural gas plants was six times larger than the dent caused by frozen wind turbines. Texans froze because deregulation and a profit-driven free market created an electric grid utterly unprepared for climate change. And regardless of the trump’s Nazis’ denial, climate change is only going to make events like this in Texas more frequent occurrences.
The oil tycoons are the only winners from climate change in Texas. Everyone else is losing badly. Adapting to extreme weather is necessary, but it’s no substitute for cutting emissions, which Texas is loath to do. So, for trump’s Nazis in the Lone Star state, you should consider it your patriotic duty to be always prepared to protect your freedom to freeze to death. But, always know, your deaths were also to protect your home states’ rights to forever be unprepared for any disaster.
‘Only the strong will survive’: Former Texas mayor accuses winter storm victims of ‘looking for a handout’ | News Break
.
The leftists who saved Texas
When the government won't save us, we have to save ourselves.
The history of ERCOT: How Texas became the only state with its own power grid
The council that controls the flow of most of the state’s power is under new, fierce scrutiny.
Still, the trump Nazis in Texas, and the rest of the nation will praise the many benefits of deregulation and the unregulated free market capitalism the left them in the cold and wet, to freeze and die.
.
They should have to pay those extreme bills. If they gambled and lost then they have to pay.
There is a truism that has long, and accurately, described Texans: "You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much." Their experience with the power grid was predicted, and when it occurred, their go-to-response, blame someone who had no part in their inevitable fvck up.
The trump Nazis in Texas won't accept the facts for the cause, but they will believe every lie they are told when liberals are blamed for the outage, and they will resist every attempt to regulate their power grid, hold those in charge accountable, or demand the necessary upgrades be addressed.
Next time, will be a repeat of this years power grid shutdown, Republican authorities will do nothing (except blame the liberals), Democrats from blue states like AOC will be the first to take action to help the victims, and the trump Nazis will continue to pi$$ and moan about the "socialist" Democrats, and be waiting in line for these same Democrats' collected donations to help them survive to do it all again.
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Looks like Texas needs to start raising taxes.
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