Former election commissioner: Cohen and Trump didn't violate campaign finance law

[easyt65]

Look moron, if the Clinton campaign listed the money it aid the opposition research firm, all is legal.

It would be like your fat assed orange buddy if Clinton paid for it out of her own money & not listed it as a campaign donation.

You people are just plain retarded.

Well according to this neither nor Cohen broke any laws.


A candidate is free to contribute to his or her own campaign. It also is not criminal for a candidate to pay hush money to women whose disclosures might endanger his campaign. So if candidate Trump paid hush money to his two accusers, there would be no violation of any campaign or other laws. To be sure, if he did so for the purpose of helping his campaign, as distinguished from helping his marriage, his campaign would have to disclose any such contribution, and failure to do so might be a violation of a campaign law, but the payments themselves would be entirely lawful.


Did President Trump violate campaign finance laws?

If, on the other hand, Cohen made the payments by himself, without direction from the president, that would constitute an impermissible campaign contribution from a third party. But if Cohen was merely acting as a lawyer for Trump and advancing the payments, with an expectation of repayment, then it would be hard to find a campaign finance crime other than failure to report by the campaign.

Failure to report all campaign contributions is fairly common in political circles.

Obama did the same. Didn't see anyone trying to say he committed a felony.

Dumbfuck, while a candidate is free to contribute as much as he or she wants, by law, they must report it if it’s over a certain dollar amount.

It wasn't a campaign contribution, so no such requirement applies.

On top of that...even if he did use campaign funds and failed to report it.... he would just pay a fine...like obama did for the 2 million dollars he didn't report.......

If Trump ordered the illegal payment to be made and provided the funds, that would be a direct violation of law Obama did not tell his campaign to break the law. That is the difference between a civil fine and criminal charges.

1. 'If'...but he didn't.

2. Cohen's testimony will never hold up in court...
- 'Were you lying then when you said he knew nothing or are you lying now to get a plea deal? Either way, you are a liar and your word can not be trusted'.

3. As posted several times before, the actual rules / law states such payments made do not constitute campaign finance funds. This alone ends all discussion.

4. CITIZEN & 'Brand' Trump used his own money to pay a 'Non-Disclosure Agreement' sum to a woman with whom he had an affair. - one she mutually consented to - BEFORE he ran for office.

You hypocritical partisan snowflakes are freaking out about that and demanding he be kicked out of office for it but remain silent about how your Congressmen committed sexual CRIMES, forcing their unwanted advances on women, while in office, then used tax dollars - our money - to pay for the silence of their victims ... FOR DECADES...far worse than what the President has done.

You are even the same hypocritical assholes who defended a President, in office, sticking cigars up inside an intern and getting a hummer in the oval office ... and paying another to go away ... By declaring, "WHAT A PRESIDENT DOES IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE IS NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS!"

.....which it seems you NOW insist only applies to a DEMOCRAT President.

STFU already.

Enough is enough. Hillary lost...because she was crooked as hell and ran the worst campaign ever. Accept the results, let go of the butt-hurt, let go of the bitter hatred.

 

[RealDave]

You seem to have it backwards. Had Steele done it for free it would have been a campaign contribution.

The DNC paid Steele's employer...for a service. I have heard no one claim it wasn't a reported EXPENSE...

YOU are stupid

It's illegal to pay foreigners to work on your campaign, moron. Clinton knows that, and her law firm knows that, so it's an open and shut case.

She did not hire Steele. Fusion GPS did. It is a closed case.

She hired Fusion GPS, and both knew what FEC regulations say. That doesn't get her off the hook. She's just in deeper because she's guilty of money laundering via her law firm.

Jesus you are dumber than shit. There was no problem with the Clinton campaign hiring Fusion. Will you please get a fucking education & STFU about shit you know nothing about.

Fusion hired foreign mercenaries. There definitely was a problem with it, or our election laws mean nothing. Fusion is a corrupt law firm that scum like Hillary pay to do all their dirty work. No one is surprised that you don't have a problem with it's illegal activities.

Bull fucking shit.

I love it. A company found how much Trump is tied to the Russians & you are concerned about a man who worked for a opposition research company. If a campaign hires a company to do work for them, they can certainly have non citizen employees.

Trump did business in Russia (he lied & said he did nothing) & therefore it is game for investigation.

 

[easyt65]

It's illegal to pay foreigners to work on your campaign, moron. Clinton knows that, and her law firm knows that, so it's an open and shut case.

She did not hire Steele. Fusion GPS did. It is a closed case.

She hired Fusion GPS, and both knew what FEC regulations say. That doesn't get her off the hook. She's just in deeper because she's guilty of money laundering via her law firm.

Jesus you are dumber than shit. There was no problem with the Clinton campaign hiring Fusion. Will you please get a fucking education & STFU about shit you know nothing about.

Fusion hired foreign mercenaries. There definitely was a problem with it, or our election laws mean nothing. Fusion is a corrupt law firm that scum like Hillary pay to do all their dirty work. No one is surprised that you don't have a problem with it's illegal activities.

Bull fucking shit.

I love it. A company found how much Trump is tied to the Russians & you are concerned about a man who worked for a opposition research company. If a campaign hires a company to do work for them, they can certainly have non citizen employees.

Trump did business in Russia (he lied & said he did nothing) & therefore it is game for investigation.

You are a liar, as there has been no evidence to support the false allegation did President Trump ever illegally colluded with the Russians to beat Hillary Clinton.

Despite the fact that collusion is not even a crime, despite the fact that Donald Trump did not have to rig primaries, cheat in debates, or go running to the Russians as Hillary did for their help, President Trump needed no one to beat a criminal candidate who could not even win her own party's nomination without cheating and finally having it given to her.

 

[RealDave]

Clinton didn’t pay a foreigner. She paid Fusion GPS, an American research firm.

Who paid a foreigner. Still illegal. What you're describing is money laundering - another crime.

Nope, not illegal. There’s no law staying an American firm can’t pay a foreigner.

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

 

[bripat9643]

Who paid a foreigner. Still illegal. What you're describing is money laundering - another crime.

Nope, not illegal. There’s no law staying an American firm can’t pay a foreigner.

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

 

[Faun]

Clinton didn’t pay a foreigner. She paid Fusion GPS, an American research firm.

Who paid a foreigner. Still illegal. What you're describing is money laundering - another crime.

Nope, not illegal. There’s no law staying an American firm can’t pay a foreigner.

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

Are you ever not a fucking moron? Want proof? Post the date Steele delivered his dossier to Hillary.....

 

[Faun]

Trump ass kissers simply CANNOT understand that simple requirement......Let them remain ignorant idiots.

We understand that it wasn't campaign donation. Those suffering from brain damage continue to insist, despite all evidence to the contrary, that it was.

Fucking moron, the court has said it would s a campaign contribution.

No, the prosecutor said that, and he's a deep state douchebag, just like Mueller.

”the prosecutor said that”

And by that, you mean the SDNY ”charged” him with that.

... to which, Cohen confessed he was guilty as charged.

Which makes it utterly meaningless. Plea bargains are not evidence admissible in other cases. How many times do you morons need to have that explained to you?

Fucking moron, Cohen’s claims that trump was involved in silencing a porn star is admissible.

 

[Faun]

Well according to this neither nor Cohen broke any laws.


A candidate is free to contribute to his or her own campaign. It also is not criminal for a candidate to pay hush money to women whose disclosures might endanger his campaign. So if candidate Trump paid hush money to his two accusers, there would be no violation of any campaign or other laws. To be sure, if he did so for the purpose of helping his campaign, as distinguished from helping his marriage, his campaign would have to disclose any such contribution, and failure to do so might be a violation of a campaign law, but the payments themselves would be entirely lawful.


Did President Trump violate campaign finance laws?

If, on the other hand, Cohen made the payments by himself, without direction from the president, that would constitute an impermissible campaign contribution from a third party. But if Cohen was merely acting as a lawyer for Trump and advancing the payments, with an expectation of repayment, then it would be hard to find a campaign finance crime other than failure to report by the campaign.

Failure to report all campaign contributions is fairly common in political circles.

Obama did the same. Didn't see anyone trying to say he committed a felony.

Dumbfuck, while a candidate is free to contribute as much as he or she wants, by law, they must report it if it’s over a certain dollar amount.

It wasn't a campaign contribution, so no such requirement applies.

On top of that...even if he did use campaign funds and failed to report it.... he would just pay a fine...like obama did for the 2 million dollars he didn't report.......

If Trump ordered the illegal payment to be made and provided the funds, that would be a direct violation of law Obama did not tell his campaign to break the law. That is the difference between a civil fine and criminal charges.

1. 'If'...but he didn't.

2. Cohen's testimony will never hold up in court...
- 'Were you lying then when you said he knew nothing or are you lying now to get a plea deal? Either way, you are a liar and your word can not be trusted'.

3. As posted several times before, the actual rules / law states such payments made do not constitute campaign finance funds. This alone ends all discussion.

4. CITIZEN & 'Brand' Trump used his own money to pay a 'Non-Disclosure Agreement' sum to a woman with whom he had an affair. - one she mutually consented to - BEFORE he ran for office.

You hypocritical partisan snowflakes are freaking out about that and demanding he be kicked out of office for it but remain silent about how your Congressmen committed sexual CRIMES, forcing their unwanted advances on women, while in office, then used tax dollars - our money - to pay for the silence of their victims ... FOR DECADES...far worse than what the President has done.

You are even the same hypocritical assholes who defended a President, in office, sticking cigars up inside an intern and getting a hummer in the oval office ... and paying another to go away ... By declaring, "WHAT A PRESIDENT DOES IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE IS NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS!"

.....which it seems you NOW insist only applies to a DEMOCRAT President.

STFU already.

Enough is enough. Hillary lost...because she was crooked as hell and ran the worst campaign ever. Accept the results, let go of the butt-hurt, let go of the bitter hatred.

”As posted several times before, the actual rules / law states such payments made do not constitute campaign finance funds. This alone ends all discussion.”

Brain-dead sycophant, the law actually already convicted one person so far for that being an illegal campaign contribution. You rightwingnuts are ignorant of reality.

 

[Faun]

Nope, not illegal. There’s no law staying an American firm can’t pay a foreigner.

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

 

[BookShaka]

We’ve only been hearing this since before he won LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

When you are done cackling....a question :

Do you think it's true that the walls are closing in on Trump?

Nope.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We’ve only been hearing this since before he won LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

When you are done cackling....a question :

Do you think it's true that the walls are closing in on Trump?

Nope.

How odd. You may want to tell Trump's lawyers. They will be so relieved!

 

[bripat9643]

Who paid a foreigner. Still illegal. What you're describing is money laundering - another crime.

Nope, not illegal. There’s no law staying an American firm can’t pay a foreigner.

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

Are you ever not a fucking moron? Want proof? Post the date Steele delivered his dossier to Hillary.....

Hmmm, right. Anyone who believes Hillary didn't get a copy is a fucking moron.

 

[bripat9643]

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

He was hired by Hillary's campaign, moron. He made campaign expenditures on Hillary's behalf.

 

[Faun]

Nope, not illegal. There’s no law staying an American firm can’t pay a foreigner.

It's illegal, asshole:

11 CFR § 110.20 | eRegulations

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).

1. 
   
   
   • Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
   • g. Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

Are you ever not a fucking moron? Want proof? Post the date Steele delivered his dossier to Hillary.....

Hmmm, right. Anyone who believes Hillary didn't get a copy is a fucking moron.

Nah, the fucking moron is the one who spouts shit he can't prove. So either prove she got a copy during the campaign or reaffirm you're a fucking moron......

 

[Faun]

Fucking moron, steele’s dossier never went to Hillary‘s campaign.

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

He was hired by Hillary's campaign, moron. He made campaign expenditures on Hillary's behalf.

Fucking moron, he was hired by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was NOT Hillary's campaign.

 

[bripat9643]

Puhleeze, spare us your idiocies.

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

He was hired by Hillary's campaign, moron. He made campaign expenditures on Hillary's behalf.

Fucking moron, he was hired by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was NOT Hillary's campaign.

Of course it was part of Hillary's campaign. Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Hillary wasn't behind the whole thing?

 

[Faun]

You posted about donations& soliciting donations.

You are quite the dumbfuck.

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

He was hired by Hillary's campaign, moron. He made campaign expenditures on Hillary's behalf.

Fucking moron, he was hired by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was NOT Hillary's campaign.

Of course it was part of Hillary's campaign. Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Hillary wasn't behind the whole thing?

Fucking moron, I don't care what meds you forgot to take today, but Fusion GPS was not Hillary's campaign.

And you still haven't proven Hillary ever got a copy of Steele's dossier during her campaign.

 

[bripat9643]

What part of "A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. " didn't you understand?

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

He was hired by Hillary's campaign, moron. He made campaign expenditures on Hillary's behalf.

Fucking moron, he was hired by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was NOT Hillary's campaign.

Of course it was part of Hillary's campaign. Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Hillary wasn't behind the whole thing?

Fucking moron, I don't care what meds you forgot to take today, but Fusion GPS was not Hillary's campaign.

Is has been established beyond all doubt that Hillary paid for the "dossier."

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[Faun]

Great, all you have to do is demonstrate to whose campaign did Steele make a contribution......?

He was hired by Hillary's campaign, moron. He made campaign expenditures on Hillary's behalf.

Fucking moron, he was hired by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was NOT Hillary's campaign.

Of course it was part of Hillary's campaign. Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Hillary wasn't behind the whole thing?

Fucking moron, I don't care what meds you forgot to take today, but Fusion GPS was not Hillary's campaign.

Is has been established beyond all doubt that Hillary paid for the "dossier."

Who do you think you're fooling?

Fucking moron, you idiotically said "Steele was hired by Hillary's campaign."

No, he wasn't. He was hired by Fusion GPS and Fusion GPS was not Hillary's campaign.

And you still haven't produced even one iota of evidence that Hillary got a copy of Steele's dossier during her campaign.

Are you ever not a fucking moron??

 

[Lesh]

Let's remember that the OP is talking about Hans Von Skofsky.

A partisan creep who was only on the FEC board because he was recess appointed and could NEVER get confirmed because he was such an incompetent partisan