Flyer reveals Barack Obama headlined socialist event in 1996

we have always paid for others insurance.

Why do you pretend we have not?

It's always been wrong.

I've never been forced to have insurance, which is what your hero wants. Great for insurance companies and their bottom lines, bad for americans.

You are advocating children bleeding to death in the street you idiiot

Good post, that's exactly what I'm advocating.

When a child goes to the hospital and is bleeding to death, a doctor will either operate on him/her right away or push him/her back out on to the streets based on whether or not sufficient insurance is shown.

Or wait is what you brought up a complete and total lie?

Don't worry TM you'll get what you want. Those of us who are anti-fascism and don't like gov't being used as an instrument to grow the profits of the companies who bribe politicians the most will lose, again, and we'll keep losing.
 
Your an imbecile Truthsplatters.

The only way that kid would ever bleed to death in the street is if the ambulance couldn't there. Of course you'd acknowledge that if you weren't so busy being an idiot.
 
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then tell me do you expect others to join you in your cold frozen heart world?
 
Your an imbecile.

The only way that kid would ever bleed to death in the street is if the ambulance couldn't there. Of course you'd acknowledge that if you weren't so busy being an idiot.

Whos going to pay for the ambulance?
 
You have to be willing to pay for the care of others or you have to be willing to allow a child to bleed to death in the street without medical care.

You can not have it both ways
 
obamacare:eusa_whistle:

LMAO!

Which part of obamacare is socialist? The part where he put more people on private insurance?

The part where gov't forces people to pay for others insurance. If I don't want to have insurance, a gov't shouldn't force me too.

The better word is fascism. Private insurance companies and big drug companies buy off our politicians, then the politicians offer up legislation where they lie and say the main reason is to help people when actually all it does is increase the profits for the select companies that bought them off. In this case, Obamacare is the legislation. It will drive up costs of drugs since they no longer have to compete in a more open market, that helps big drug and big pharma companies, and now insurance companies customers increased helping their bottom line.

Fascism is all about mixing gov't and a handful of gov'ts favorite companies together as a means of getting more money and more power.

So which part is Socialist? I noticed you switched to a different term and then jumped on your soapbox. That was great, but didn't answer the question about what makes it socialist.
 
we have always paid for others insurance.

Why do you pretend we have not?

It's always been wrong.

I've never been forced to have insurance, which is what your hero wants. Great for insurance companies and their bottom lines, bad for americans.

And you also have no idea what you'd do if you were to become ill should you get seriously sick. Your hero has no idea either but he's got some great talking points!
 
It's fascism.

Ha-Ha. The War on citizens who use non-government approved recreational substances is fascism, not the plan to insure everyone.

You're half right.

Gov't regulating what plants you grow and gov't regulating whether or not you pay for someone else's insurance are both fascism.

So the cuerrent system of healthcare is fascism. Taxpayers pay for the uninsureds' healthcare.
 
LMAO!

Which part of obamacare is socialist? The part where he put more people on private insurance?

The part where gov't forces people to pay for others insurance. If I don't want to have insurance, a gov't shouldn't force me too.

The better word is fascism. Private insurance companies and big drug companies buy off our politicians, then the politicians offer up legislation where they lie and say the main reason is to help people when actually all it does is increase the profits for the select companies that bought them off. In this case, Obamacare is the legislation. It will drive up costs of drugs since they no longer have to compete in a more open market, that helps big drug and big pharma companies, and now insurance companies customers increased helping their bottom line.

Fascism is all about mixing gov't and a handful of gov'ts favorite companies together as a means of getting more money and more power.

So which part is Socialist? I noticed you switched to a different term and then jumped on your soapbox. That was great, but didn't answer the question about what makes it socialist.

Depends how you look at it, hence why I said fascism was the better term. Some would say the handful of the biggest companies who have bought off both parties and gov't are part of one big entity since they're working together hand in hand.

One view would be rather than allowing the private market to dictate who has insurance, gov't should dictate everyone has insurance. That way it is socialism.
 
It's always been wrong.

I've never been forced to have insurance, which is what your hero wants. Great for insurance companies and their bottom lines, bad for americans.

You are advocating children bleeding to death in the street you idiiot

Good post, that's exactly what I'm advocating.

When a child goes to the hospital and is bleeding to death, a doctor will either operate on him/her right away or push him/her back out on to the streets based on whether or not sufficient insurance is shown.

Or wait is what you brought up a complete and total lie?

Don't worry TM you'll get what you want. Those of us who are anti-fascism and don't like gov't being used as an instrument to grow the profits of the companies who bribe politicians the most will lose, again, and we'll keep losing.

Yet you have no better ideas.
 
then tell me do you expect others to join you in your cold frozen heart world?

Yup. You flamming idiot Everybody but you is coldhearted.

answer my question.

who is going to pay for the ambulance?

The same people who paid for it before Obamacare.

The same people already pay for it. The difference is you want gov't to take away people's choices to own insurance or not. If I choose not to have insurance and I want to pay for my medical bills on my own, I should have that liberty. You want that liberty done away with.
 
Yup. You flamming idiot Everybody but you is coldhearted.

answer my question.

who is going to pay for the ambulance?

The same people who paid for it before Obamacare.

The same people already pay for it. The difference is you want gov't to take away people's choices to own insurance or not. If I choose not to have insurance and I want to pay for my medical bills on my own, I should have that liberty. You want that liberty done away with.

And when you make that choice and then can't pay...we have to pay for you. Your choice affects the rest of us. So you don't get to choose to burden us with higher expenses.
 
You are advocating children bleeding to death in the street you idiiot

Good post, that's exactly what I'm advocating.

When a child goes to the hospital and is bleeding to death, a doctor will either operate on him/her right away or push him/her back out on to the streets based on whether or not sufficient insurance is shown.

Or wait is what you brought up a complete and total lie?

Don't worry TM you'll get what you want. Those of us who are anti-fascism and don't like gov't being used as an instrument to grow the profits of the companies who bribe politicians the most will lose, again, and we'll keep losing.

Yet you have no better ideas.

Not going through this song and dance again, far far better ideas have already been presented, you just don't like them. Disagreement is fine, at least you acknowledge who benefits the most from Obamacare.
 
answer my question.

who is going to pay for the ambulance?

The same people who paid for it before Obamacare.

The same people already pay for it. The difference is you want gov't to take away people's choices to own insurance or not. If I choose not to have insurance and I want to pay for my medical bills on my own, I should have that liberty. You want that liberty done away with.

And when you make that choice and then can't pay...we have to pay for you. Your choice affects the rest of us. So you don't get to choose to burden us with higher expenses.

But gov't gets to choose to burden you with higher expenses? That's better?
 
if you can pay for it yourself then you would get to pay less of it by buying insurance.


Why do you pretend that is not true?


Should they add a caveot that says if you put 5million in a health trust then you dont have to buy insurance?
 
Good post, that's exactly what I'm advocating.

When a child goes to the hospital and is bleeding to death, a doctor will either operate on him/her right away or push him/her back out on to the streets based on whether or not sufficient insurance is shown.

Or wait is what you brought up a complete and total lie?

Don't worry TM you'll get what you want. Those of us who are anti-fascism and don't like gov't being used as an instrument to grow the profits of the companies who bribe politicians the most will lose, again, and we'll keep losing.

Yet you have no better ideas.

Not going through this song and dance again, far far better ideas have already been presented, you just don't like them. Disagreement is fine, at least you acknowledge who benefits the most from Obamacare.

You're right there have been far better ideas, such as a public option, but you didn't want to discuss that since that's not something that your Hero ever mentioned.
 

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