FLASHBACK: Conservative Media Didn't Care Bush's Bird Flu Czar Had No Medical Experience

[Kosh]

FLASHBACK: When Conservative Media Didn't Care Bush's Bird Flu Czar Had No Medical Experience

Will the Dumb conservative who watch Fox remember this?

For days the anti-Obama, anti-Klain talking point has been repeated. Indeed, the Fox team has been adamant: If the president appoints a czar to oversee a possible health crisis, that person must have a medical background.

Except, apparently, when the president was George Bush, the health fear was the bird flu virus, and Bush's czar had no medical background. Note that prior to becoming the nation's bird flu czar, Bush's point-person served as general counsel for Amtrak.

In 2004, Bush's bird flu czar was Stewart Simonson. He worked as an assistant secretary of health and human services for public health emergency preparedness. And although he had no medical experience or expertise in public health, he did enjoy a noted career as a Republican political insider.

Stewart Simonson worked as an assistant secretary of health and human services for public health emergency preparedness

Sorry, but the far left narrative just got caught posting looking for certain keywords and not looking at facts.

Still this one is more familiar with medical procedures than the far left Obama drones on anything.

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). He assumed office on April 28, 2004. He told the president in a resignation letter dated May 13, 2006 that he had accomplished what he had set out to do, and it was time to pursue other opportunities. Simonson joined HHS in August 2001 and was instrumental in building the HHS preparedness and response organization that grew out of the September 11th attacks.

Simonson served as the Secretary's principal advisor on matters related to bioterrorism and other public health emergencies. He also coordinated interagency activities between HHS, other federal departments, agencies, offices and state and local officials responsible for emergency preparedness and the protection of the civilian population.

Stewart Simonson - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Another far left thread fail!

 

[Seawytch]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

 

[Kosh]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

 

[Stephanie]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

well you all should cry us a river over it and maybe catch up with what's going on TODAY under your dear wonderful puppet OBama

 

[Seawytch]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

 

[TooTall]

Rule Number 1. No Con can ever come with a valid argument. Yes he is qualified. It would better to have a Surgeon General, you guys don't want one.

bushie's bird flu czar was a political appointment you guys were as per usual mute on the subject.

Speaking of Surgeon Generals, here are the reasons for not having one. The Senate has to VOTE to confirm him, and Harry Reid is the problem.

Democrats who control the Senate could have confirmed Murthy without any help from Republicans under rule changes enacted last year that allow confirmation with a simple majority.

Senator Reid has not yet tried to bring up the nomination, due, no doubt, to the bipartisan opposition.

 

[TooTall]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Read post #26 and cry me a river.

 

[Seawytch]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Read post #26 and cry me a river.

Why? It has nothing to do with what I said. I said we need a surgeon general, that's all. I also said the nutter criticism is nothing more than the usual ODS because the nutters didn't give two figs that Stewart wasn't a doctor, they only care that Obama's choice isn't a doctor.

 

[martybegan]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

He had emergency prep experience at HHS. Does Obama's guy have any of that?

 

[martybegan]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Read post #26 and cry me a river.

Why? It has nothing to do with what I said. I said we need a surgeon general, that's all. I also said the nutter criticism is nothing more than the usual ODS because the nutters didn't give two figs that Stewart wasn't a doctor, they only care that Obama's choice isn't a doctor.

One doesn't have to be an MD to have emergency prep or epidemiological experience, which is needed for the positions being talked about. Does Obama's guy even have that?

 

[martybegan]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Creak creak creak goes the goalposts....

Slurp slurp slurp goes seawytch on her knees in front of Obama.

 

[NYcarbineer]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It's relevant because the legitimacy of the criticism can be brought into question if the criticism is coming from people who did not object to the very same actions by a president of the other party.

Bush's two AIDs Czars were also NOT doctors.

It's simply Obama Derangement Syndrome.

 

[martybegan]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It's relevant because the legitimacy of the criticism can be brought into question if the criticism is coming from people who did not object to the very same actions by a president of the other party.

Bush's two AIDs Czars were also NOT doctors.

It's simply Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Clintons first one wasn't a doctor, she was a nurse. The 2nd one was more of a health policy wonk than a medical professional.

 

[Seawytch]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Creak creak creak goes the goalposts....

Slurp slurp slurp goes seawytch on her knees in front of Obama.

Yes, the RW nutters are indeed "moving the goalposts"....but that's what they do. They are hypocrisy immune.

 

[martybegan]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Creak creak creak goes the goalposts....

Slurp slurp slurp goes seawytch on her knees in front of Obama.

Yes, the RW nutters are indeed "moving the goalposts"....but that's what they do. They are hypocrisy immune.

The OP was already proven wrong, the guy Bush appointed had experience in emergency planning and HHS work. What does Obama's guy have?

You clowns are the ones focusing on "being a doctor". Here is a little hint, alot of people who work in epidemiology are not MD's but PhD's.

 

[NYcarbineer]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It's relevant because the legitimacy of the criticism can be brought into question if the criticism is coming from people who did not object to the very same actions by a president of the other party.

Bush's two AIDs Czars were also NOT doctors.

It's simply Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Clintons first one wasn't a doctor, she was a nurse. The 2nd one was more of a health policy wonk than a medical professional.

All you're doing is help establish that there has never been some rule or standard that a presidential czar dealing with a healthcare problem ought to be a doctor,

therefore, the claim to the contrary is clearly an invention by the rightwing propaganda machine.

 

[martybegan]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It's relevant because the legitimacy of the criticism can be brought into question if the criticism is coming from people who did not object to the very same actions by a president of the other party.

Bush's two AIDs Czars were also NOT doctors.

It's simply Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Clintons first one wasn't a doctor, she was a nurse. The 2nd one was more of a health policy wonk than a medical professional.

All you're doing is help establish that there has never been some rule or standard that a presidential czar dealing with a healthcare problem ought to be a doctor,

therefore, the claim to the contrary is clearly an invention by the rightwing propaganda machine.

YOUR side is the one making this about being a doctor. Most criticism has been about experience in the area in question in general. Bush's Bird Flu guy had experience in Emergency Prep and worked at HHS, what does Obama's Ebola Czar have that is comparable?

This is a losing argument for you guys, just walk away.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It actually has nothing to do with Bush. It's not about Bush it's about the appalling hypocrisy of the right. They didn't give a shit if the bird flu czar had any medical experience, but they are throwing a fit and falling into it because President Obama's Ebola czar doesn't. Bush isn't key.

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Creak creak creak goes the goalposts....

Slurp slurp slurp goes seawytch on her knees in front of Obama.

Yes, the RW nutters are indeed "moving the goalposts"....but that's what they do. They are hypocrisy immune.

The OP was already proven wrong, the guy Bush appointed had experience in emergency planning and HHS work. What does Obama's guy have?

You clowns are the ones focusing on "being a doctor". Here is a little hint, alot of people who work in epidemiology are not MD's but PhD's.

The focus on being a doctor was an invention of the rightwing propaganda machine from the first moment this fake controversy was hatched.

 

[martybegan]

Says the far left Obama drone that will vote far left no matter what..

Again fro the far left posters that missed this:

Stewart Simonson was the first Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The RW Nutter criticism is that Ron Klain isn't a doctor. Is Stewart Simonson a doctor? No...hence the appalling hypocrisy. What Ron Klein is good at is crisis management and that is what you need, not a doctor. The surgeon general is a doctor. We do need one of those.

Creak creak creak goes the goalposts....

Slurp slurp slurp goes seawytch on her knees in front of Obama.

Yes, the RW nutters are indeed "moving the goalposts"....but that's what they do. They are hypocrisy immune.

The OP was already proven wrong, the guy Bush appointed had experience in emergency planning and HHS work. What does Obama's guy have?

You clowns are the ones focusing on "being a doctor". Here is a little hint, alot of people who work in epidemiology are not MD's but PhD's.

The focus on being a doctor was an invention of the rightwing propaganda machine from the first moment this fake controversy was hatched.

Nope, the rightwing's focus was on any relevent experience, you guys are making it a "Doctor" thing. Again, alot of people in epidemiology and basic medical research are not MD's, but are PhD's. Epidemiology is more about statistics than practical medicine anyway.

 

[NYcarbineer]

BUSH!


When will start addressing the shortcomings of the current POTUS rather than "flashing back" to the shortcomings of the previous office holder? Do you do this because you have no defense for the moves Obama has made and continues to make?

It's relevant because the legitimacy of the criticism can be brought into question if the criticism is coming from people who did not object to the very same actions by a president of the other party.

Bush's two AIDs Czars were also NOT doctors.

It's simply Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Clintons first one wasn't a doctor, she was a nurse. The 2nd one was more of a health policy wonk than a medical professional.

All you're doing is help establish that there has never been some rule or standard that a presidential czar dealing with a healthcare problem ought to be a doctor,

therefore, the claim to the contrary is clearly an invention by the rightwing propaganda machine.

YOUR side is the one making this about being a doctor. Most criticism has been about experience in the area in question in general. Bush's Bird Flu guy had experience in Emergency Prep and worked at HHS, what does Obama's Ebola Czar have that is comparable?

This is a losing argument for you guys, just walk away.

Are you fucking insane? This 'doctor' controversy was started by the Right by people who didn't even know who Bush appointed as AIDs czars.

In fact, I was the first one, a few days ago, to even mention here that Bush had AIDs czars who weren't doctors.