Findings of fact: Insurrection?

[Arlette]

The only fact is no one has been convicted or even tried for insurrection for J6.

Whatever you wanna call what happened on J6, it would have never happened without Trump.

 

[Orangecat]

Orangecat If Trump's claim of immunity is recognized, doesn't it extend to Biden and all other Presidents and Ex Presidents

I don’t believe his claim of immunity will be validated by the SCOTUS. IMHO, presidents are not immune to any prosecution. I do believe the charges against him are unsubstantiated and blatantly political in nature.

 

[Orangecat]

Whatever you wanna call what happened on J6, it would have never happened without Trump.

It would have never happened without Joe Biden, either.

 

[Kilroy2]

Colorado has no juridiction in a federal matter

States run their own elections. Its not a federal matter.

It is a legal matter and thus will eventually end up in the supreme court

No, the federal government doesn’t run elections – states do.

Federal and state elections are administered at the local level, and the specifics of how elections are conducted differ between states.

www.verifythis.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If there is immunity for the Pres and the VP, they can begin with electoral count opening Jan 2025.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It would have never happened without Joe Biden, either.

Mr. Trump was always going to do what he wanted to do. Has nothing to do with Biden or anyone else.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

States run their own elections. Its not a federal matter.

It is a legal matter and thus will eventually end up in the supreme court

No, the federal government doesn’t run elections – states do.

Federal and state elections are administered at the local level, and the specifics of how elections are conducted differ between states.

www.verifythis.com

Again there was no insurrection or law violated in Colorado
Hell simp time for Colorado to take Biden off the ballot

 

[Orangecat]

Mr. Trump was always going to do what he wanted to do. Has nothing to do with Biden or anyone else.

If Biden hadn’t cheated, J6 would just be another day. Therefore, it wouldn’t have happened without Biden. I was responding to the dummy that said J6 wouldn’t have happened without Trump. Pay attention, please.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

If Biden hadn’t cheated, J6 would just be another day. Therefore, it wouldn’t have happened without Biden. I was responding to the dummy that said J6 wouldn’t have happened without Trump. Pay attention, please.

What did Biden cheat on, his wife? Oh that would be Mr. Trump (on his wives). Broke a solemn oath(s) to his god.

What did Biden cheat on, his promises to pay his bills in full? Oh that would be Mr. Trump.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

If flaws were dollar bills, Mr. Trump would really be a billionaire.

 

[BackAgain]

If flaws were dollar bills, Mr. Trump would really be a billionaire.

If dishonesty was the source of power, The Dainty would outshine the Sun.

 

[Orangecat]

What did Biden cheat on, his wife? Oh that would be Mr. Trump (on his wives). Broke a solemn oath(s) to his god.

What did Biden cheat on, his promises to pay his bills in full? Oh that would be Mr. Trump.

Stop blubbering, it’s unbecoming of a man.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

If dishonesty was the source of power, The Dainty would outshine the Sun.

It's so sweet of you to show up.

Thinking of you too...

Have a Very Merry Snotty Christmas

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Stop blubbering, it’s unbecoming of a man.

The Trump Files: Listen to Donald Brag About His Affairs—While Pretending to Be Someone Else​

Just take the strange 1991 incident where “John Miller,” one of the fake-spokesman personas Trump invented to speak anonymously to the media, bragged to People‘s Sue Carswell about Trump’s sleeping around.


Carswell called up Trump’s office to talk about allegations that Trump had taken up with model Carla Bruni and dumped Marla Maples, the woman with whom Trump cheated on his first wife, Ivana. “He’s living with Marla and he’s got three other girlfriends,” the “sort of new” PR man told Carswell when he called her back. “[Marla] wants to get back, she’s told it to a lot of her friends and she’s told it to him, but it’s so highly unlikely.”

The Trump Files: Listen to Donald brag about his affairs—while pretending to be someone else

This may be his best fake-spokesman moment ever.

www.motherjones.com

 

[BackAgain]

It's so sweet of you to show up.

Thinking of you too...

Have a Very Merry Snotty Christmas

Zzz

 

[BackAgain]

The Trump Files: Listen to Donald Brag About His Affairs—While Pretending to Be Someone Else​

Just take the strange 1991 incident where “John Miller,” one of the fake-spokesman personas Trump invented to speak anonymously to the media, bragged to People‘s Sue Carswell about Trump’s sleeping around.


Carswell called up Trump’s office to talk about allegations that Trump had taken up with model Carla Bruni and dumped Marla Maples, the woman with whom Trump cheated on his first wife, Ivana. “He’s living with Marla and he’s got three other girlfriends,” the “sort of new” PR man told Carswell when he called her back. “[Marla] wants to get back, she’s told it to a lot of her friends and she’s told it to him, but it’s so highly unlikely.”

The Trump Files: Listen to Donald brag about his affairs—while pretending to be someone else

This may be his best fake-spokesman moment ever.

www.motherjones.com

Your tds Isn’t all that interesting, The Dainty.

 

[Flash]

finding of fact​

finding

www.law.cornell.edu

conclusion of fact

www.law.cornell.edu

finding of fact

www.law.cornell.edu

Primary tabs​

A finding of fact, also known as a conclusion of fact, refers to decisions made by the trier of fact on questions of fact in a case.
Questions of fact arise when parties disagree on facts, and after presenting evidence, the trier of fact must decide what the facts actually are. Findings of fact may be made by either a jury or a judge depending on whether the case is criminal or civil and/or if there is an agreement between the parties. These conclusions often dictate the outcome of a trial. Because questions of fact must be analyzed and decided, if there is a question of fact, a judge cannot enter a summary judgment until the factual dispute is resolved.

Trial courts are considered finders of facts and, therefore, their findings of fact are given a high degree of deference by the higher courts. On appeal, an appellate court will only overturn a conclusion of fact if the trier of fact’s decision was clearly erroneous. This is to be contrasted with a conclusion of law which will receive higher scrutiny.

[Last updated in December of 2022 by the Wex Definitions Team]



With so many here professing legal expertise, I'm left wondering why I don't see this mentioned in most all posts (though that's a whole 'nother thread). I do see it in a signature of postman: "The most important difference between an appellate court and a trial court is that the appellate court generally does not decide issues of fact. In a trial court, the factfinder—usually a judge or jury—will make findings of fact."

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/president-biden-making-america-normal-again.876476/page-17603#post-33235844

Do people see how this affect posts they've made, ideas they've expressed, opinions?

The only insurrection I know of is when the BLM Negroes and Communist spent six months burning, looting, destroying and murdering in over 200 American cities.

The government shitheads that supported the insurrection are the filthy ass Democrats that instigated all the hate against the police.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The only insurrection I know of is when the BLM Negroes and Communist spent six months burning, looting, destroying and murdering in over 200 American cities.

The government shitheads that supported the insurrection are the filthy ass Democrats that instigated all the hate against the police.

You seem to always have black men on your mind. Hmm...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If flaws were dollar bills, Mr. Trump would really be a billionaire.

And if lies were brain cells you would have a fully functioning brain

 

[Orangecat]

The Trump Files: Listen to Donald Brag About His Affairs—While Pretending to Be Someone Else​

Just take the strange 1991 incident where “John Miller,” one of the fake-spokesman personas Trump invented to speak anonymously to the media, bragged to People‘s Sue Carswell about Trump’s sleeping around.


Carswell called up Trump’s office to talk about allegations that Trump had taken up with model Carla Bruni and dumped Marla Maples, the woman with whom Trump cheated on his first wife, Ivana. “He’s living with Marla and he’s got three other girlfriends,” the “sort of new” PR man told Carswell when he called her back. “[Marla] wants to get back, she’s told it to a lot of her friends and she’s told it to him, but it’s so highly unlikely.”

The Trump Files: Listen to Donald brag about his affairs—while pretending to be someone else

This may be his best fake-spokesman moment ever.

www.motherjones.com

Would you like a tissue?