Finally breaking big! CrowdStrike is rewriting parts of Part of Disputed Russian Hacking Report

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Believe it or not the VOA was on this first last week. I've been waiting to see how it was going to break and it finally is big time.

There's a lot of dots connecting very quickly. This Russian hacked the election fairy tale is getting hot.

I put it up in another thread that Farkas, Pinchuk and Dimitri Alperovitch are all senior fellows at the Atlantic Council. All in bed together.

So CrowdStrike is walking back Russian hacking claims. This is getting good.

WASHINGTON —
U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.

In December, CrowdStrike said it found evidence that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, contributing to heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine's war with pro-Russian separatists.

VOA reported Tuesday that the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), which publishes an annual reference estimating the strength of world armed forces, disavowed the CrowdStrike report and said it had never been contacted by the company.

Ukraine's Ministry of Defense also has stated that the combat losses and hacking never happened.

Cyber Firm Rewrites Part of Disputed Russian Hacking Report
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.
 
It was a lie from the beginning .

Hillary's IT Consultant dreampt up the lie "Jean Camp" who is a Hacker with a Phd.

I have been saying this for months and she needs to be brought before Congress because she also hacked the Russian Alpfa Bank and Trump Tower to plant false beacons
On those servers.

Russian bank: Contact from Trump server ‘may be work of hacker’

Russian Bank Claims Trump Server Story May Have Been a Hoax

Hillary Clinton donor pushed Trump-Russia computer narrative investigated by FBI

Alfa Bank threatens researcher with CFAA lawsuit over DNS request data

Profile : All People: School of Informatics and Computing: Indiana University


Believe it or not the VOA was on this first last week. I've been waiting to see how it was going to break and it finally is big time.

There's a lot of dots connecting very quickly. This Russian hacked the election fairy tale is getting hot.

I put it up in another thread that Farkas, Pinchuk and Dimitri Alperovitch are all senior fellows at the Atlantic Council. All in bed together.

So CrowdStrike is walking back Russian hacking claims. This is getting good.

WASHINGTON —
U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.

In December, CrowdStrike said it found evidence that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, contributing to heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine's war with pro-Russian separatists.

VOA reported Tuesday that the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), which publishes an annual reference estimating the strength of world armed forces, disavowed the CrowdStrike report and said it had never been contacted by the company.

Ukraine's Ministry of Defense also has stated that the combat losses and hacking never happened.

Cyber Firm Rewrites Part of Disputed Russian Hacking Report
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
 
Crowdstrike were not the only company to look at this and the evidence collected by the actual FBI is what counts...

Crowdstrike haven't taken the major charges off the table and just amended bits...

Nice try but this is your usual bullshit of crapping on something until no one knows up from down...

Intelligence agencies have made there statements on this and are you calling the FBI and CIA liars?
 
Crowdstrike were not the only company to look at this and the evidence collected by the actual FBI is what counts...

Crowdstrike haven't taken the major charges off the table and just amended bits...

Nice try but this is your usual bullshit of crapping on something until no one knows up from down...

Intelligence agencies have made there statements on this and are you calling the FBI and CIA liars?

Most others say CrowdStrikes report was a piece of shit. The FBI has never examined the server. Nor has any other agency within the government.

Oh and the part they are changing is the part they got busted LYING about.
 
Crowdstrike were not the only company to look at this and the evidence collected by the actual FBI is what counts...

Crowdstrike haven't taken the major charges off the table and just amended bits...

Nice try but this is your usual bullshit of crapping on something until no one knows up from down...

Intelligence agencies have made there statements on this and are you calling the FBI and CIA liars?

Most others say CrowdStrikes report was a piece of shit. The FBI has never examined the server. Nor has any other agency within the government.

Oh and the part they are changing is the part they got busted LYING about.

I am sure the professional people in the FBI who have been doing this for years will take all of this into account...

Simple thing is:
Where is you 'most' sources, cause most sources are pretty nailed onto that Russia had the resources and the will to preform this.

To perform the operation of hacking and trawl through all the information available and to give juicy bits, this operation would have taken about 300 people working full time... Who has the resources to do this and to keep it quiet?

These are the simple questions but why don't you actually wait for the professionals to do there job there Comrade....

The allegations are very much real and have multiple sources...
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort was being paid $10 million to influence politics, business, and media coverage in the U.S. to benefit Putin’s government. Influence was promised at the highest levels – the White House, the State Department, and Capitol Hill.

Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report

And then there's this:
Trump aide Manafort's real estate deals raise suspicion
There was a pattern of real estate spending and borrowing by Paul Manafort that followed a pattern experts say is used in laundering money.

A " good man's reputation! "Ha ha
 
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Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report


That's the oligarch connection. Manafort is a lobbyist. It's his gig to work for clients from all over the world. He's been doing it since 1980 and nothing has been hidden. Quite extensive client list. Including President Ford, Reagan and GH Bush.

And it's not illegal to work for other countries leaders or businesses. Including Russia who is a member of G8 and G20. I'm certain Tony and John Podesta would agree with me. :)
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report


That's the oligarch connection. Manafort is a lobbyist. It's his gig to work for clients from all over the world. He's been doing it since 1980 and nothing has been hidden. Quite extensive client list. Including President Ford, Reagan and GH Bush.

And it's not illegal to work for other countries leaders or businesses. Including Russia who is a member of G8 and G20. I'm certain Tony and John Podesta would agree with me. :)
Person after person after person after person that is connected to Trump had strong ties to Russia.
No nothing suspicious going on here.
You wish.
The whole truth will come out despite republicans sabatoging the investigation and covering up information.
Remember Watergate? It wasn't so much the crime( which was bad enough) it was the coverup.
And Nunes is looking as dirty as they come right now.
This is going to be the pussy grabber's Waterloo.
 
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Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report


That's the oligarch connection. Manafort is a lobbyist. It's his gig to work for clients from all over the world. He's been doing it since 1980 and nothing has been hidden. Quite extensive client list. Including President Ford, Reagan and GH Bush.

And it's not illegal to work for other countries leaders or businesses. Including Russia who is a member of G8 and G20. I'm certain Tony and John Podesta would agree with me. :)
Person after person after person after person that is connected to Trump had strong ties to Russia.
No nothing suspicious going on here.
You wish.
The whole truth will come out despite republicans sabatoging the investigation and covering up information.
Remember Watergate? It wasn't so much the crime( which was bad enough) it was the coverup.
And Nunes is looking as dirty as they come right now.
This is going to be the pussy grabber's Waterloo.
Yeah So you are calling the NSA, Cia, FBI liars for saying there is no election connection. Saying what you do about Russia is a form of Xenophobia maybe also a delusional scapegoat. You are also bound by that standard which neither Obama nor Clinton passes with Russia or Iranian or Saudis ties nor can you explain lacking outcry for Obamas interference with Israeli elections and what should be his sentence? Should we extradite him to Israel to stand trial?
Nunes did nothing wrong since he was concerned about a crime that was "not regarding the Russian investigation" and it's his duty to report to the president a possible act of treason and breech of privacy rights, especially if the ones involved are illegally engaged in a poor mans coup attempt. Instead of asking for Comey to acuse himself for lying and abusing his power trying to squelch an investigation into the illegal surveillance, you jump on the hero instead.
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort was being paid $10 million to influence politics, business, and media coverage in the U.S. to benefit Putin’s government. Influence was promised at the highest levels – the White House, the State Department, and Capitol Hill.

Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report

And then there's this:
Trump aide Manafort's real estate deals raise suspicion
There was a pattern of real estate spending and borrowing by Paul Manafort that followed a pattern experts say is used in laundering money.

A " good man's reputation! "Ha ha

Oh sweet Lord all you have is rumors and smears. No proof. No evidence.

I know its the left wing whacko way to try to destroy a persons reputation because they are a different political stripe and that's what is in gear here now, but it really is sickening. On the bright side CrowdStrike's so called evidence for the fairy tale is coming apart at the seams.
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort was being paid $10 million to influence politics, business, and media coverage in the U.S. to benefit Putin’s government. Influence was promised at the highest levels – the White House, the State Department, and Capitol Hill.

Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report

And then there's this:
Trump aide Manafort's real estate deals raise suspicion
There was a pattern of real estate spending and borrowing by Paul Manafort that followed a pattern experts say is used in laundering money.

A " good man's reputation! "Ha ha

Oh sweet Lord all you have is rumors and smears. No proof. No evidence.

I know its the left wing whacko way to try to destroy a persons reputation because they are a different political stripe and that's what is in gear here now, but it really is sickening. On the bright side CrowdStrike's so called evidence for the fairy tale is coming apart at the seams.

Rumors and smears?

The Left lives on rumors and smears.
 
Wikileaks says it was not the Russians who handed them the info.
The guess is a number of them, if not all of them, who use the DNC system and the intel committees, had their data accessed and even equipment stolen by three subjects who were their IT guys Pakistani Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan (plus a mystery woman).
My guess the woman might be Huma Abedin who is also of Pakistani heritage.
Can you imagine the outcry on the incompetance that would bring to find out they entrusted everything to people from a country we just killed Bin Laden in and which resides Al-Queda Operatives?
So the Russian angle is one giant smokescreen ruse to save their behinds from total and utter embarassment.

That scenario is certainly possible. I've been looking at the Ukrainian connections for some time now as well helping the DNC cover for what was really going on.

Most certainly the Ukrainians were deeply involved in attempting to get Hillary elected. They worked with a DNC operative to run a smear campaign against Trump and specifically targeted Paul Manafort with their lies that he was under investigation for corruption. Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign.

At the heart of all of this though is this think tank called the Atlantic Council who claim to be bi partisan but here's a list of the players including CrowdStrike. Like hell they're non partisan when most of the senior fellows left to serve with Obama :)

"In February 2009, James L. Jones, then-chairman of the Atlantic Council, stepped down in order to serve as President Obama's new National Security Advisor and was succeeded by Senator Chuck Hagel.

In addition, other Council members also left to serve the administration: Susan Rice as ambassador to the UN, Richard Holbrooke as the Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, General Eric K. Shinseki as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Anne-Marie Slaughter as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department. Four years later, Hagel stepped down to serve as US Secretary of Defense. Gen. Brent Scowcroft served as interim chairman of the organization's Board of Directors until January 2014."

So now we have all Obama/Clinton connections/Pinchuk serving as a senior fellow (Hillary's main donor to the Clinton Foundation)/CrowdStrike and the Ukrainians all involved in the election and in the fairy tale that Russia hacked the election.

This is going to get very interesting because with being busted for lying about the IISS their credibility is zip.
Did you just say a " Hence a good man's reputation was ruined and he resigned from the Trump campaign. " referring to Paul Manafort?
No you did not.
Manafort once worked to 'benefit the Putin government': Report


That's the oligarch connection. Manafort is a lobbyist. It's his gig to work for clients from all over the world. He's been doing it since 1980 and nothing has been hidden. Quite extensive client list. Including President Ford, Reagan and GH Bush.

And it's not illegal to work for other countries leaders or businesses. Including Russia who is a member of G8 and G20. I'm certain Tony and John Podesta would agree with me. :)
Person after person after person after person that is connected to Trump had strong ties to Russia.
No nothing suspicious going on here.
You wish.
The whole truth will come out despite republicans sabatoging the investigation and covering up information.
Remember Watergate? It wasn't so much the crime( which was bad enough) it was the coverup.
And Nunes is looking as dirty as they come right now.
This is going to be the pussy grabber's Waterloo.
Nunes is standing strong. He is very patriotic and his integrity is impeccable, just like our new glorious leader, Donald Trump.
 
Crowdstrike were not the only company to look at this and the evidence collected by the actual FBI is what counts...

Crowdstrike haven't taken the major charges off the table and just amended bits...

Nice try but this is your usual bullshit of crapping on something until no one knows up from down...

Intelligence agencies have made there statements on this and are you calling the FBI and CIA liars?

Most others say CrowdStrikes report was a piece of shit. The FBI has never examined the server. Nor has any other agency within the government.

Oh and the part they are changing is the part they got busted LYING about.

I am sure the professional people in the FBI who have been doing this for years will take all of this into account...

Simple thing is:
Where is you 'most' sources, cause most sources are pretty nailed onto that Russia had the resources and the will to preform this.

To perform the operation of hacking and trawl through all the information available and to give juicy bits, this operation would have taken about 300 people working full time... Who has the resources to do this and to keep it quiet?

These are the simple questions but why don't you actually wait for the professionals to do there job there Comrade....

The allegations are very much real and have multiple sources...


Anonymous sources mean jack shit at this point in time. Where's the evidence of any wrong doing? Only criminal act to date has been the leaks from the intel community.
 
Again not only did NO Intelligence Agency look at this server, even those that requested to look at the server were turned down by The DNC. Russian Alfa Bank let the US Gov look at their server. Trump Tower let The US Gov look at their server. The DNC refuses to let anyone look at their server. Why?

Why are we getting more cooperation out of Russia and The Trump Administration than The DNC?

Combine that with Head of National Security (Clapper) saying that no intelligence from the 17 Intelligence agencies show Collusion with Russia.

What this is all about is a cover story for The DNC to deflect from the fact their own people turned against them. It was a leak, not a hack.

2ndly the strategy is to destabilize our government and de-egitimize The President and keep the Administration tied up defending himself.

Not even our worst enemies could hope to do what the DNC is attempting to do. They want to keep investigations going. They do not want them concluded. They want this in the nightly news every night until 2018 at the least.

This is why they want Nunes to step down. They want to start a new investigation with someone they favor and call it "independent."

And after the new investigation starts, they will find another reason to end that one as incomplete and start another. If they could stretch it out for 4 years with this cycle, they will.

It's nothing but politics and manipulation of the Public.

Or as Gruber would call them. ... "The Stupid American Voter"
 
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I didn't realize this. From CNN:

Washington (CNN)The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.

"The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
This statement is in response to reports that the FBI never asked the DNC for access to the hacked systems.

The DNC told Buzzfeed News that they did not receive a request from the FBI to access their computer servers.
"The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and US Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News.

The FBI instead relied on the assessment from a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke.

Anybody on the Left around want to tell us why the DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to gain access to their servers? Wouldn't be because they had other stuff out there that was even more damaging, would it?
 
I hope someone besides VOA reports on this. Government media isn't credible IMO
 
Between this and a re-energized Putin, look for Republicans to flip all 25 Democrat Senate seats in 2018
 
I didn't realize this. From CNN:

Washington (CNN)The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.

"The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
This statement is in response to reports that the FBI never asked the DNC for access to the hacked systems.

The DNC told Buzzfeed News that they did not receive a request from the FBI to access their computer servers.
"The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and US Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News.

The FBI instead relied on the assessment from a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke.

Anybody on the Left around want to tell us why the DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to gain access to their servers? Wouldn't be because they had other stuff out there that was even more damaging, would it?

Someone has to be able to answer this question...

Why are we getting more cooperation out of Russia and The Trump Administration in looking at the Alfa Bank and Trump Tower Servers than with The DNC and Their Server?
 

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