Fast & Furious Guns Will Be Used In Crimes For 'Years To Come.'

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    That's why you should be wearing an orange jumpsuit Mr. Holder. How many will die or have already died because of your crimes? This is just plain sad...


    Attorney General Eric Holder suggested Thursday that weapons lost during the course of the failed "Fast and Furious" gunrunning operation will continue to show up at crime scenes in the U.S. and Mexico "for years to come."

    Holder, in testimony on Capitol Hill that comes as the congressional investigation into the program expands, decried the "gun-walking" tactic used in the operation as "inexcusable" and "wholly unacceptable." But a day after an influential senator called for the resignation of one of Holder's top deputies over the scandal, Holder denied department leaders played any role in the crafting of Fast and Furious.

    He continued to assert that top Justice officials were not told about the "inappropriate tactics" until they were made public.

    Still, the top law enforcement official in the country conceded that, as a result of Fast and Furious, guns lost by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives remain in the hands of criminals.

    Congress has been investigating Fast and Furious for nearly a year. Scrutiny of the program intensified after guns from the program were found at the scene of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry's murder.



    Read more: Holder Suggests Fast And Furious Guns Will Be Used In Crimes For 'Years To Come' | Fox News
     
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    How is this guy still Attorney General? Mind-Boggling.
     
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    This is serious stuff and no one gives a shit, post some garbage about Herman Cain or Newt and the crowd goes wild.......
     
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    Didn't this start under the Bush adminstration?

    The Associated Press is reporting on a second Bush administration investigation that involved so-called "gun walking" of weapons to Mexico, the same tactic for which the Obama administration is facing scrutiny from the Justice Department and Congress.

    E-mails pertaining to a 2007 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives operation out of Phoenix show that agents allowed illegal shipments of guns across the border into Mexico in a failed effort to identify higher-ups in smuggling networks. Earlier this month, the bureau's new director, B. Todd Jones, acknowledged ATF agents launched a similar operation in a 2006 called "Operation Wide Receiver.''
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/2nd-probe-surfac es-of-bush-era-gun-trafficking-to-mexico-/1


    So, any bets on that the same brilliant brain trust that launched Operation Wide Receiver is also responsible for Fast and Furious?


    At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011, nine people had been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms; two of them had pled guilty.[15]

    Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them.[2][20]

    Less than two weeks later, on October 6, William Newell, then ATF's special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division, shut down the operation at the behest of William Hoover, ATF's assistant director for the office of field operations.[21] No charges were filed. Newell, who was special agent in charge from June 2006 to May 2011, would later play a major role in Operation Fast and Furious.
    ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    SO let's review shall we?

    THE SAME THING, DONE BY THE SAME GUY went on under Bush. NO INDICTMENTS were made until the Obama administration CLEANED IT UP.


    If you CONZ weren't so BLIND TO INCOMPETENCE, you would have caught this and Fast and Furious would never have been allowed to happen.
    But just like the Wall Street Crash, you CONZ aren't really cut out for being responsible adults, are you?
     
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    Guns were going into Mexico and drug cartels and other criminals long before Fast and Furious and it's be cause of the radical right wing extremist love afair with guns and want every one to have one and carry one so this is what we get. Gun trafficking into Mexico is a big business and there in no way of knowing if the gun that killed the agent were from Fast and Furious.
     
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    2nd probe surfaces in Bush-era gun trafficking to Mexico

    The Associated Press is reporting on a second Bush administration investigation that involved so-called "gun walking" of weapons to Mexico, the same tactic for which the Obama administration is facing scrutiny from the Justice Department and Congress.

    E-mails pertaining to a 2007 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives operation out of Phoenix show that agents allowed illegal shipments of guns across the border into Mexico in a failed effort to identify higher-ups in smuggling networks. Earlier this month, the bureau's new director, B. Todd Jones, acknowledged ATF agents launched a similar operation in a 2006 called "Operation Wide Receiver.''
    2nd probe surfaces in Bush-era gun trafficking to Mexico
     
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    The Dumbing-Down of America. They're obssessed with their stupid reality tv,celebrities,sports,and porn. This kind of awful stuff just doesn't stir any anger or even concern in most now. It's exactly what the Politicians & Media always wanted...Dumbed-Down America.
     
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    Gee.....all-of-a-sudden....Republicans are worried-about....

    ....huh??

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