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The majority voted for him twice.
And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.
Yes, you both have done it.
The Democratic party never gerrymandered in the outrageous manner that the GOP has. Once gerrymandering is outlawed or done by non-partisan organizations, the people's votes will have more meaning and be more honestly represented.
Wow.
Do you believe the stuff you post?
Dems never gerrymandered?
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
Obama is a pariah and candidates up for reelection are disavowing him
Links, please.
Did she vote for Obama Kentucky Senate candidate still won apos t say - LA Times
In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?
Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.
This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
The majority voted for him twice.
And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.
Yes, you both have done it.
The Democratic party never gerrymandered in the outrageous manner that the GOP has. Once gerrymandering is outlawed or done by non-partisan organizations, the people's votes will have more meaning and be more honestly represented.
Wow.
Do you believe the stuff you post?
Dems never gerrymandered?
You don't read very well, do you? Did you miss this part of my statement? "in the outrageous manner that the GOP has"
When you read the whole sentence together, it should give you a different perspective of what I said.
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
It's been done at least 2-3 times in this thread already. Here are 2 current examples. Shameless gerrymandering by Democrats.
Maryland 3
Illinois 4
Of course these examples are nowhere near as bad as those EVIL REPUBLICANS!!
Where's your link? Seems to me you're the one that's guessing.Obviously you don't know or you would have said so. They could have been established by Republicans before they realized they could get more elections by re-districting them in odd shapes?Yes...
That is assuming that you feel that YOU are reliable.
I just showed you where the GOP boasts about how their redistricting helped them win elections even though there were more Democratic votes.....and you are accusing us of deceit, fraud and ignorance? I think you are in denial..........
The Republican 're-districting'... now these 'districts' were established by whom, before the Republicans 're-districted' them?
LOL! Well as guesses go, not a good showin'... 0 for 2.
The Republicans RE-DISTRICTED THE DEMOCRATS PREVIOUS RE-DISTRICTING. Which of course they're entirely authorized to do, by the law the Democrats passed to provide for the 'legalities' authorizin' such.
Such is the longstanding tactic of the Ideological Left. It comes from European politics, going WAY back to the days of Barrons and 'Lords of the Land'... wherein Kings deeded large parcels of land to those who already had support of the people in the respective region, as a means to expedient loyalty.
And this is your proof? Bwahahaha.
Now do I need to explain the kinship with European socialism, its adaption of old tactic to mount popular support through "Democratic" principles... with the US Democrats? Happy to do so if ya feel it'll help.
No, you just have to show where the Democrats were the ones that had established the districts before the GOP gerrymandered them in the odd shapes they needed to in order to win elections.....no need for that other BS.
ok got this stupid alert from this post saw what was said and feel a response is need to inform the misinformed.
since the 90"s North Carolina has had a district that specially targets minority voters it's called district 12
.
Here's a better look
And you think the Republicans did the worse case of gerrymandering? Think again.
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
It's been done at least 2-3 times in this thread already. Here are 2 current examples. Shameless gerrymandering by Democrats.
Maryland 3
Illinois 4
Of course these examples are nowhere near as bad as those EVIL REPUBLICANS!!
Obama is a pariah and candidates up for reelection are disavowing him
Links, please.
Did she vote for Obama Kentucky Senate candidate still won apos t say - LA Times
In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?
Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.
This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
It's been done at least 2-3 times in this thread already. Here are 2 current examples. Shameless gerrymandering by Democrats.
Maryland 3
Illinois 4
Of course these examples are nowhere near as bad as those EVIL REPUBLICANS!!
You're right.....they don't even compare to the gerrymandering done in NC, Texas and other red states.
The majority voted for him twice.
And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.
Yes, you both have done it.
The Democratic party never gerrymandered in the outrageous manner that the GOP has. Once gerrymandering is outlawed or done by non-partisan organizations, the people's votes will have more meaning and be more honestly represented.
Wow.
Do you believe the stuff you post?
Dems never gerrymandered?
You don't read very well, do you? Did you miss this part of my statement? "in the outrageous manner that the GOP has"
When you read the whole sentence together, it should give you a different perspective of what I said.
Why GOP does it, it's "outrageous"; when Dems do it, it's sweetness, light and all goodness
Obama is a pariah and candidates up for reelection are disavowing him
Links, please.
Did she vote for Obama Kentucky Senate candidate still won apos t say - LA Times
In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?
Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.
This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Obama is a pariah and candidates up for reelection are disavowing him
Links, please.
Did she vote for Obama Kentucky Senate candidate still won apos t say - LA Times
In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?
Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.
This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
So it's OK to disavow the POTUS to get elected. WIN AT ANY COST!! That's wh
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
It's been done at least 2-3 times in this thread already. Here are 2 current examples. Shameless gerrymandering by Democrats.
Maryland 3
Illinois 4
Of course these examples are nowhere near as bad as those EVIL REPUBLICANS!!
You're right.....they don't even compare to the gerrymandering done in NC, Texas and other red states.
And that is why you are not taken seriously. You're a shameless partisan cheerleader....Go team go!!
So it's OK to disavow the POTUS to get elected. WIN AT ANY COST!! That's wh
Obama is a pariah and candidates up for reelection are disavowing him
Links, please.
Did she vote for Obama Kentucky Senate candidate still won apos t say - LA Times
In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?
Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.
This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
So it's OK to disavow the POTUS to get elected. WIN AT ANY COST!! That's wh
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
It's been done at least 2-3 times in this thread already. Here are 2 current examples. Shameless gerrymandering by Democrats.
Maryland 3
Illinois 4
Of course these examples are nowhere near as bad as those EVIL REPUBLICANS!!
You're right.....they don't even compare to the gerrymandering done in NC, Texas and other red states.
And that is why you are not taken seriously. You're a shameless partisan cheerleader....Go team go!!
You're the one that is not taken seriously. Name-calling and insults is your general approach, and now you have just proved that again....considering all the states the Republicans have gerrymandered, but continue with your denial, that's probably all you can do considering the facts that have been presented.....tooloo!
So it's OK to disavow the POTUS to get elected. WIN AT ANY COST!! That's wh
They didn't disavow the POTUS.....the fact they won't say who they voted for doesn't disavow him.....quit trying to make drama.
And speaking of "winning at any cost" - you should talk......when I just showed you how the Republicans gerrymandered in order to win elections.
Try again, when you have substance.
Obama is a pariah and candidates up for reelection are disavowing him
Links, please.
Did she vote for Obama Kentucky Senate candidate still won apos t say - LA Times
In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?
Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.
This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
So it's OK to disavow the POTUS to get elected. WIN AT ANY COST!! That's wh
Mertex said:Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
It's been done at least 2-3 times in this thread already. Here are 2 current examples. Shameless gerrymandering by Democrats.
Maryland 3
Illinois 4
Of course these examples are nowhere near as bad as those EVIL REPUBLICANS!!
You're right.....they don't even compare to the gerrymandering done in NC, Texas and other red states.
And that is why you are not taken seriously. You're a shameless partisan cheerleader....Go team go!!
You're the one that is not taken seriously. Name-calling and insults is your general approach, and now you have just proved that again....considering all the states the Republicans have gerrymandered, but continue with your denial, that's probably all you can do considering the facts that have been presented.....tooloo!
So it's OK to disavow the POTUS to get elected. WIN AT ANY COST!! That's wh
They didn't disavow the POTUS.....the fact they won't say who they voted for doesn't disavow him.....quit trying to make drama.
And speaking of "winning at any cost" - you should talk......when I just showed you how the Republicans gerrymandered in order to win elections.
Try again, when you have substance.
Unemployment is a lie. The majority of those employed are part time and we have the lowest number of people employed overall then at any other time in history. You see rather then creating real jobs the economy sucks. Part time jobs and total loss of Jobs that never came back.14 Facts About The Obama Presidency That Most People Don rsquo t Know
Listed below are 14 objective facts, without interjecting any opinion, about the state of America under the leadership of President Obama. Every statement is followed up with a link to a source where you can verify these facts for yourself.
1. We've now had 63 straight months of economic expansion.
That’s right, for 63 consecutive months the US economy has gotten progressively better. That includes 54 consecutive months of private sector job growth. Forbes magazine, no fan of President Obama, crunched the numbers and demonstrated how the economic recovery under President Obama has been better in just about every measurable way than the recovery under President Reagan.
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs Growth And Investing - Forbes
2. We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history.
Again, this statistic comes from the Forbes Magazine article listed above. In fact, we have now had 54 straight months of private sector job creation. That is the longest period of job creation since the Department of Labor has been keeping statistics. See the link below.
Obama 8217 s claim that businesses are in the 8216 longest uninterrupted stretch of job creation 8217 - The Washington Post
3. Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009 to 5.9% and projected to reach 5.4% by summer of 2015.
Not only has the unemployment rate dropped significantly, but since the recession ended, our economy as added over ten million new jobs. You can refer to the Forbes article above or check this article on PoliticsUSA.
Democratic Presidents Bring It Obama Breaks Clinton s Record For Private Sector Job Growth
4. The stock market continues to set new records since President Obama has been in office.
Since early 2009 there has been a steady trend in stock market growth. The Dow Jones Industrial averages reached an all-time high of 17,098 in August, 2014. Since most Americans have 401K retirement investments in the stock market, this stock market growth benefits millions of middle class Americans.
Dow Jones Industrial Average Last 10 Years MacroTrends
5. The Federal budget deficit is shrinking. It’s been reduced by two-thirds since 2009.
The $1.4 trillion federal budget deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 was in a large part due to the high rate of unemployment. When millions of people were put out of work in 2008 and 2009, it resulted in far less income taxes and less economic activity to generate federal revenue. As ten million people have been put back to work, there have been billions more tax dollars generated. As a result, the deficit has been shrinking each year. The 2014 deficit is projected to be around $500 billion, the smallest deficit since 2007 and roughly 1/3 of what it was in 2009.
US Federal Deficit Definition - plus charts and analysis
6. Under President Obama, spending has increased only 1.4% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president.
You may have heard critics say that President Obama is spending money wildly and running up our debt. According to this article from Forbes, Obama has increased spending by 1.4% annually, far less than President Reagan (8.7%) or George W. Bush (8.1%). In fact, Obama has increased spending less than any president since Eisenhower.
Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower Would You Believe It s Barack Obama - Forbes
7. For 95% of American taxpayers, income taxes are lower now than just about any time in the previous 50 years.
After President Obama took office, thousands of Tea Party members all over the country held rallies protesting Obama’s tax increases. At that time, President Obama had actually passed several tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Most of the Tea Partiers who were protesting had only seen their taxes decrease under Obama. Yet polls indicated that most Tea Party members wrongly believed their taxes had gone up.
In fact, the only people whose income taxes have gone up during Obama’s presidency are those making $400,000 per year or more. That's less than 2% of the population. Today, for the vast majority of people, tax rates are exactly where they were when Obama first took office or lower. The article below from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities explains this in greater detail.
Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families Remain Near Historic Lows mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
8. Our dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.
While some people claim that oil production has declined under President Obama, the truth is just the opposite. Oil production has reached record highs. The United States now produces so much oil that we export more oil and gasoline than we import.
United States - Oil - production - Historical Data Graphs per Year
9. At least 7 million more Americans now have health insurance than before.
Depending on whose numbers you use, between 7 and 10 million Americans acquired health insurance due to the Affordable Care Act. Now that those 7 to 10 million Americans have insurance, the rest of us are no longer on the hook to pay for their health care when they get sick. This saves the American people billions of dollars in the long run.
Obamacare Helped Up to 10 Million Get Insurance Gallup Finds - NBC News
10. The Affordable Care Act has added years to the life of Medicare.
The Medicare trust fund had been on course to run out of money by the end of 2016. But due to cost savings from the Affordable Care Act and lower healthcare expenses, Medicare’s trust fund is now stable until the year 2030 without cutting benefits.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/medicare-social-security-headed-in-different-directions-1406564712
11. Since passage of the Affordable Care Act, we are seeing the slowest rate of increase in healthcare costs since 1960.
Contrary to the predictions from Republicans, health care costs have increased at a much slower pace since the passage of the ACA.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/healthcostreport_final_noembargo_v2.pdf
12. We currently have fewer soldiers, sailors and airmen in war zones than any time in over 10 years.
With the end of the Iraq war and the steady withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, we have fewer people in war zones now than any time since 2002.
13. There have been zero successful attacks by al Qaeda on US soil since Obama became president.
Despite Dick Cheney’s claim that if voters elect a Democrat as president, we’ll be “hit again and hit hard” by al Qaeda, we have actually been far safer from terrorist attacks on US soil in recent years than we were under the previous president. There have been several unsuccessful attacks against the US under both presidents, but under Obama, al Qaeda has been largely unsuccessful in striking the US on our home soil.
Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
14. We now successfully catch and deport more illegal immigrants than ever before.
Despite the publicity from busloads of children who illegally entered the country, the numbers prove that President Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president.
Has Barack Obama deported more people than any other president in U.S. history PolitiFact
All of the facts stated above can be confirmed through multiple sources, yet most Americans are not aware of all of this positive news. I invite you to do your own research and check these facts for yourself.
The truth is, most other presidents would envy President Obama’s record despite the fact that he inherited the worst economic crash since the Great Depression.
Here's a bonus. If you feel particularly ambitious, feel free to research these additional facts.
Health Insurers Set To Give Out More Obamacare Refunds
- Since Obama became president, our economy has gone from losing 800,000 jobs per month to adding 200,000 jobs per month. That’s a net improvement under Obama of about 1 million jobs per month!
- Before Obama became president, our financial system was in ruins and millions of people were at risk of losing their life savings. Now, the financial loopholes have been fixed and we are no longer at risk of another financial collapse.
- In 5 years under Obama the economy has created twice as many jobs as were created in 8 years under George W. Bush.
- President Obama passed credit card reforms that protects consumers from excessive fees, rate hikes, deceptive marketing and unreasonable due dates.
- Thanks to “Obamacare”, senior citizens have saved billions of dollars on prescription drugs.
- The Affordable Care Act requires insurance companies to spend at least 80% of your premiums on health care. As a result millions of Americans have received refunds from their health insurance companies.
Despite the unprecedented obstructionism and record number of filibusters used by Republicans to kill even the most routine legislation, the fact remains, in almost every measurable way, the American people are profoundly better off today than they were before President Obama took office.
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Excellent contribution.
Are any of the 14 claims untrue? Pick the one that you think is most dishonest and we will discuss it.
Is gerrymandering bad? yes or no? Gerrymandering good when dems do it but bad when Republicans do it.You only said Republicans why is it a problem now?Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?
Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.
As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?
Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.
As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
Facts are something you do not have a frim grasp of....
Democrats gerrymandered it's districts like a jigsaw puzzle did you whine about it then?Because most states have Republican leaders and have gerry-mandered the districts to look like jigsaw puzzle pieces in order for Republicans to have the advantage.
Can't do that in general elections, that's why in general elections you'll continue to lose and when we are able to get those district fairly redrawn, you won't be winning mid-term elections either.
7 GOP Governors Who May Lose Re-Election The Nation
Gov. Rick Scott s fangate revolt Did he just lose Florida governor s race video - CSMonitor.com
I'm just stating a fact.....show me where I ever said Republicans were the only ones that have done it......and I bet you whined when the Democrats did it.
I know you have comprehension problems because the point I was trying to make was that gerrymandering was the only reason the GOP might have the lead in the mid-term elections, but all you could see was that I said the GOP gerrymandered, which they did, and you immediately had to point out that Democrats did it too. I guess to you two wrongs make a right? The truth, in an honest election, the GOP wouldn't be ahead in the mid-term elections.
How does gerrymandering Congressional districts help SENATE candidates? Are you trying look foolish on purpose?
Where did I say it helped Senate candidates? Are you suffering from comprehension problems, too?
Is gerrymandering bad? yes or no? Gerrymandering good when dems do it but bad when Republicans do it.You only said Republicans why is it a problem now?Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.
Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?
Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.
As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.
Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?
Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.
As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
Facts are something you do not have a frim grasp of....
Democrats gerrymandered it's districts like a jigsaw puzzle did you whine about it then?
I'm just stating a fact.....show me where I ever said Republicans were the only ones that have done it......and I bet you whined when the Democrats did it.
I know you have comprehension problems because the point I was trying to make was that gerrymandering was the only reason the GOP might have the lead in the mid-term elections, but all you could see was that I said the GOP gerrymandered, which they did, and you immediately had to point out that Democrats did it too. I guess to you two wrongs make a right? The truth, in an honest election, the GOP wouldn't be ahead in the mid-term elections.
How does gerrymandering Congressional districts help SENATE candidates? Are you trying look foolish on purpose?
Where did I say it helped Senate candidates? Are you suffering from comprehension problems, too?
No, gerrymandering is stealing.
And, in case I have to say it, stealing is wrong.
Democrats did the gerrymandering of district 12ok got this stupid alert from this post saw what was said and feel a response is need to inform the misinformed.
since the 90"s North Carolina has had a district that specially targets minority voters it's called district 12
.
Here's a better look
And you think the Republicans did the worse case of gerrymandering? Think again.
Hello!
And who do you think did the gerrymandering in District 12? You said it targets minorities and thought that it favored them.....think again.
You just proved my point. You need to research your claims so you don't end up looking foolish.
Three North Carolina voters have mounted new accusations of racial gerrymandering in a federal lawsuit challenging the shapes of Congressional Districts 1 and 12.
Republicans at the helm of both N.C. General Assembly chambers led the redrawing of legislative and congressional districts in 2011.
The length of the district’s perimeter, according to the lawsuit, is 1,319 miles – “almost precisely the distance from Chapel Hill to Austin, Texas.”
The architects of the 2011 redistricting, the three voters contend, “ignored the common rural and agricultural interests” of Coastal Plain residents that federal courts have previously recognized. Durham, the newly added urban center, constitutes 25 percent of the district’s population.
The 12th Congressional District is 120 miles long but only 20 miles wide at its widest part. The district includes large portions of Charlotte and Greensboro connected by a thin strip – “averaging only a few miles wide” – that follows Interstate 85.
“A person traveling on Interstate 85 between the two cities would exit the district multiple times, as the district’s boundaries zig and zag to encircle African-American communities,” the federal lawsuit contends.
The impact on black voters
Critics of the 2011 Republican-led redistricting contend the map lines were drawn to concentrate black voters in districts that reduced their overall political power.
In the lawsuit under appeal in state court, the plaintiffs challenged 30 districts – nine in the state Senate, 18 in the state House and three congressional districts. They complained that Republicans created many majority-minority districts in regions where black voters had elected their favored candidates in coalitions with whites for decades.
Local North Carolina state news from Raleigh NC NewsObserver.com
Several groups and former lawmakers have challenged the voting maps drawn by the Republican-led North Carolina General Assembly in 2011, claiming that district lines were drawn to pack as many black voters as possible into a few districts and that districts split up too many counties and precincts.
Analysis NC among most gerrymandered states WRAL.com
