CDZ FACTS about the Obama presidency

Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

LOL!
Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance: The Fundamental Elements of Socialism.

Any reliable sources to prove that statement?

Yes...

That is assuming that you feel that YOU are reliable.

I just showed you where the GOP boasts about how their redistricting helped them win elections even though there were more Democratic votes.....and you are accusing us of deceit, fraud and ignorance? I think you are in denial..........:)

The Republican 're-districting'... now these 'districts' were established by whom, before the Republicans 're-districted' them?

When you find the means to confront that truth, perhaps, just perhaps, you'll find the means to recognize the other truth, from which will come your answer.

And I wish you only the very best of luck in doing just that.
 
So why are the Democrats brutally losing Tuesday's elections?

Are you seriously asking that question?

You don't think it is due to the unemployment rate being under 6% do you?

You don't think it is due to the Dow breaking records do you?

You don't think it is due to the deficit being lowered do you?

If you are seriously asking....I will seriously answer. Are you?

Of course I'm serious. If everything is so rosy as you guys are pretending then the public should want to stay the course, not throw your party out of power and replace them with people who won't go along with the president's agenda.

I find it hard to believe that you asked that seriously. But OK. Here is your answer. This isn't debatable, by the way. It just is.

There are more seats in held by Dems up for grabs than there are seats held by Repubs. The populace is pissed off at the entire government for not giving the appearance of getting shit done. That includes the Dems and Repubs.

In races with any competition....the incumbent will be ousted.

In addition...this is a midterm. The turnout will be low. Americans are apathetic....especially regarding midterms. Huge amounts of negative campaigning added in......and people are turned off. That favored Repubs. Low turnout means that only those regular voters with shitloads of free time to study candidates and go vote give a shit. Advantage GOP.

Finally....the DNC hasn't owned the improving economy. Fearing that the slow pace of the recovery would have voters rolling their eyes if they gig on stage and said things were going well.....they completely abandoned the issue. Idiots.

There you have it. It isn't a guess. It isn't my opinion. It just is.
 
I don't watch TV and yes obama is a liar and everything in the OP is a lie.

Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
You only said Republicans why is it a problem now?


I don't watch TV and yes obama is a liar and everything in the OP is a lie.

Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

Facts are something you do not have a frim grasp of....
So why are the Democrats brutally losing Tuesday's elections?
Because most states have Republican leaders and have gerry-mandered the districts to look like jigsaw puzzle pieces in order for Republicans to have the advantage.

Can't do that in general elections, that's why in general elections you'll continue to lose and when we are able to get those district fairly redrawn, you won't be winning mid-term elections either.

7 GOP Governors Who May Lose Re-Election The Nation

Gov. Rick Scott s fangate revolt Did he just lose Florida governor s race video - CSMonitor.com
Democrats gerrymandered it's districts like a jigsaw puzzle did you whine about it then?

I'm just stating a fact.....show me where I ever said Republicans were the only ones that have done it......and I bet you whined when the Democrats did it.

I know you have comprehension problems because the point I was trying to make was that gerrymandering was the only reason the GOP might have the lead in the mid-term elections, but all you could see was that I said the GOP gerrymandered, which they did, and you immediately had to point out that Democrats did it too. I guess to you two wrongs make a right? The truth, in an honest election, the GOP wouldn't be ahead in the mid-term elections.

How does gerrymandering Congressional districts help SENATE candidates? Are you trying look foolish on purpose? :rofl:

Where did I say it helped Senate candidates? Are you suffering from comprehension problems, too? :lmao:
Is gerrymandering bad? yes or no? Gerrymandering good when dems do it but bad when Republicans do it.
 
Well, I know in your Fox News altered version of facts, it probably isn't, but in reality, it is. Too bad that it isn't something that you can rejoice about being that it is good for America.
I don't watch TV and yes obama is a liar and everything in the OP is a lie.

Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

The majority voted for him twice.

And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.
Bull shit democrats have gerrymandered.
 
Just found out this was the clean debate zone. I'm leaving this discussion because with all them democrat lying the clean zone is as dirty as any other board.
 
Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
You only said Republicans why is it a problem now?


Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

Facts are something you do not have a frim grasp of....
Because most states have Republican leaders and have gerry-mandered the districts to look like jigsaw puzzle pieces in order for Republicans to have the advantage.

Can't do that in general elections, that's why in general elections you'll continue to lose and when we are able to get those district fairly redrawn, you won't be winning mid-term elections either.

7 GOP Governors Who May Lose Re-Election The Nation

Gov. Rick Scott s fangate revolt Did he just lose Florida governor s race video - CSMonitor.com
Democrats gerrymandered it's districts like a jigsaw puzzle did you whine about it then?

I'm just stating a fact.....show me where I ever said Republicans were the only ones that have done it......and I bet you whined when the Democrats did it.

I know you have comprehension problems because the point I was trying to make was that gerrymandering was the only reason the GOP might have the lead in the mid-term elections, but all you could see was that I said the GOP gerrymandered, which they did, and you immediately had to point out that Democrats did it too. I guess to you two wrongs make a right? The truth, in an honest election, the GOP wouldn't be ahead in the mid-term elections.

How does gerrymandering Congressional districts help SENATE candidates? Are you trying look foolish on purpose? :rofl:

Where did I say it helped Senate candidates? Are you suffering from comprehension problems, too? :lmao:
Is gerrymandering bad? yes or no? Gerrymandering good when dems do it but bad when Republicans do it.

Gerrymandering is bad when anyone does it. But the GOP has done the worst case of gerrymandering ever, they admitted that themselves, that it was what helped them in 2010.
 
So why are the Democrats brutally losing Tuesday's elections?

1) its usual at this point in a presidency
2) Obama's has botched foreign pollicy badly
3) his recovery is worst since great depression
4) insurance companies just notified that premiums will go way up in 2015 when they must cover more and more health problems
5) Obama lied to get Obamacare passed
 
Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

LOL!
Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance: The Fundamental Elements of Socialism.

Any reliable sources to prove that statement?

Yes...

That is assuming that you feel that YOU are reliable.

I just showed you where the GOP boasts about how their redistricting helped them win elections even though there were more Democratic votes.....and you are accusing us of deceit, fraud and ignorance? I think you are in denial..........:)

The Republican 're-districting'... now these 'districts' were established by whom, before the Republicans 're-districted' them?
Obviously you don't know or you would have said so. They could have been established by Republicans before they realized they could get more elections by re-districting them in odd shapes?

When you find the means to confront that truth, perhaps, just perhaps, you'll find the means to recognize the other truth, from which will come your answer.
And, since you don't know what the truth is, you are assuming that it is going to go in your favor, but you don't know, so you are just blowing smoke.


And I wish you only the very best of luck in doing just that.
I guess you think I'm going to go do your work for you? If you really feel that the "truth" is in your favor, you go do the search, but since you haven't proven anything with links/sources, you are just blowing smoke. You really don't know who established the districts to begin with and why the GOP had to gerrymander them in such a way to win elections because they knew they didn't have enough votes to win the elections otherwise.
 
The majority voted for him twice.

And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.

Yes, you both have done it.

The Democratic party never gerrymandered in the outrageous manner that the GOP has. Once gerrymandering is outlawed or done by non-partisan organizations, the people's votes will have more meaning and be more honestly represented.
 
LOL!
Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance: The Fundamental Elements of Socialism.

Any reliable sources to prove that statement?

Yes...

That is assuming that you feel that YOU are reliable.

I just showed you where the GOP boasts about how their redistricting helped them win elections even though there were more Democratic votes.....and you are accusing us of deceit, fraud and ignorance? I think you are in denial..........:)

The Republican 're-districting'... now these 'districts' were established by whom, before the Republicans 're-districted' them?
Obviously you don't know or you would have said so. They could have been established by Republicans before they realized they could get more elections by re-districting them in odd shapes?

LOL! Well as guesses go, not a good showin'... 0 for 2.

The Republicans RE-DISTRICTED THE DEMOCRATS PREVIOUS RE-DISTRICTING. Which of course they're entirely authorized to do, by the law the Democrats passed to provide for the 'legalities' authorizin' such.

Such is the longstanding tactic of the Ideological Left. It comes from European politics, going WAY back to the days of Barrons and 'Lords of the Land'... wherein Kings deeded large parcels of land to those who already had support of the people in the respective region, as a means to expedient loyalty.

Now do I need to explain the kinship with European socialism, its adaption of old tactic to mount popular support through "Democratic" principles... with the US Democrats? Happy to do so if ya feel it'll help.
 
I don't watch TV and yes obama is a liar and everything in the OP is a lie.

Just because you say it doesn't make it so. You can hold your breath until you turn blue and say it's a lie, but in the end you lose......it's fact.
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

The majority voted for him twice.

And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.
Bull shit democrats have gerrymandered.

Please show some links/sources where Democrats have gerrymandered in the manner that the GOP has.
 
The majority voted for him twice.

And, its not the Dems who have been desperately gerrymanding to cheat the country out of a fair election.

Yes, you both have done it.

The Democratic party never gerrymandered in the outrageous manner that the GOP has. Once gerrymandering is outlawed or done by non-partisan organizations, the people's votes will have more meaning and be more honestly represented.

Wow.

Do you believe the stuff you post?

Dems never gerrymandered?
 
Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.
You only said Republicans why is it a problem now?


Like this post? you think Republicans are the only ones that gerrymandered? Dumb ass it's not what I say but fact makes it all a lie.

Where did I say that Republicans were the only ones that gerrymandered? You feeling a tad guilty?


Well, at least you are not denying that gerrymandering has all to do with why there is a GOP surge in the 2014 elections.....it's not like it's because of GOP great leadership.

As for Obama, the majority of the country voted for him.....deal with it. FACT.

Facts are something you do not have a frim grasp of....
Democrats gerrymandered it's districts like a jigsaw puzzle did you whine about it then?

I'm just stating a fact.....show me where I ever said Republicans were the only ones that have done it......and I bet you whined when the Democrats did it.

I know you have comprehension problems because the point I was trying to make was that gerrymandering was the only reason the GOP might have the lead in the mid-term elections, but all you could see was that I said the GOP gerrymandered, which they did, and you immediately had to point out that Democrats did it too. I guess to you two wrongs make a right? The truth, in an honest election, the GOP wouldn't be ahead in the mid-term elections.

How does gerrymandering Congressional districts help SENATE candidates? Are you trying look foolish on purpose? :rofl:

Where did I say it helped Senate candidates? Are you suffering from comprehension problems, too? :lmao:
Is gerrymandering bad? yes or no? Gerrymandering good when dems do it but bad when Republicans do it.

Gerrymandering is bad when anyone does it. But the GOP has done the worst case of gerrymandering ever, they admitted that themselves, that it was what helped them in 2010.
ok got this stupid alert from this post saw what was said and feel a response is need to inform the misinformed.
since the 90"s North Carolina has had a district that specially targets minority voters it's called district 12
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Here's a better look
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And you think the Republicans did the worse case of gerrymandering? Think again.
 

In a red state......how else would a Democrat win in a red state?


Do you even know who they voted for? They may not have even voted for Obama and the reason for their refusal to say may be so that Democrats don't ditch them.

This is no proof......just more of the right-wing type of rhetoric.
 
Any reliable sources to prove that statement?

Yes...

That is assuming that you feel that YOU are reliable.

I just showed you where the GOP boasts about how their redistricting helped them win elections even though there were more Democratic votes.....and you are accusing us of deceit, fraud and ignorance? I think you are in denial..........:)

The Republican 're-districting'... now these 'districts' were established by whom, before the Republicans 're-districted' them?
Obviously you don't know or you would have said so. They could have been established by Republicans before they realized they could get more elections by re-districting them in odd shapes?

LOL! Well as guesses go, not a good showin'... 0 for 2.

The Republicans RE-DISTRICTED THE DEMOCRATS PREVIOUS RE-DISTRICTING. Which of course they're entirely authorized to do, by the law the Democrats passed to provide for the 'legalities' authorizin' such.
Where's your link? Seems to me you're the one that's guessing.

Such is the longstanding tactic of the Ideological Left. It comes from European politics, going WAY back to the days of Barrons and 'Lords of the Land'... wherein Kings deeded large parcels of land to those who already had support of the people in the respective region, as a means to expedient loyalty.

And this is your proof? Bwahahaha.

Now do I need to explain the kinship with European socialism, its adaption of old tactic to mount popular support through "Democratic" principles... with the US Democrats? Happy to do so if ya feel it'll help.

No, you just have to show where the Democrats were the ones that had established the districts before the GOP gerrymandered them in the odd shapes they needed to in order to win elections.....no need for that other BS.
 

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