Explaining Fraud to MAGA

[Nostra]

Are you high?

Just really stupid. And maybe high too.

 

[Nostra]

check this out...

In his ruling the judge accused Trump’s lawyers of living in a “fantasy world” in which “square footage [is] subjective”. He ruled that Trump had overvalued his Trump Tower apartment by up to $207mn, falsely stating in annual financial records that it was almost three times its actual size, and — in one year — exaggerated the value of apartments in Park Avenue by 700 per cent.

the important part is here "annual financial records". These are from the Trump organization. Should the bank have verified the valuations in the financial records with their own professional appraisal? Perhaps in hindsight, perhaps they should, but it appears the convention is to use business documents for a loan to a business.

This is the clown that valued MAR at only $18 million, right?

 

[blackhawk]

More wisdom from the message board expert.

 

[Nostra]

/-----/ "If you lie about your collateral, you will pay a lower interest rate on your loan."
I stopped reading at your first idiotic statement. (I can only assume there are more.)
Valuation is subjective. The banks testified that they did their own due diligence. No lender would take the word of a borrower, you imbecile.

Toro probably couldn't get a payday loan.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Funny how none claimed to be victims were happy with the deals, and hoped to do more with Trump.

Moron.

/——-/ I think the Trump haters are trying to convince themselves that banks don’t do their due diligence. It’s all they have to say.

 

[Mac1958]

If Hillary had done the exact same thing, you’d be baying for blood. But because your Orange Jesus committed fraud, you defend him like your life depends on it.

Perfectly sound logic, but you're trying to reason with a cult that despises you, thinks you are evil and is at war with you.

When they use the term "enemy", they're not kidding. Our impulse is to assume it's just hyperbole, but they've been conditioned to equate hyperbole with "truth". Look in their eyes when you talk with them.

This is an existential problem. Literally.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Most of these idiots have never been through a mortgage process, that's for certain, but not surprising.

/——/ I wonder if they ever bought a used car, and just took the word of the seller of the value. I wonder if they would get their mechanic to check it out first. I wonder if they ever applied for a used car loan and the bank took the seller’s valuation and not that of Kelly’s Blue Book.

 

[HeyNorm]

Yes. Expressly where it mentions driving drunk when you get your licenses.

In the mean time here is some homework for you.

What Happens if You Lie on a Loan Application? - Experian

Learn about four possible consequences of lying on a loan application, including getting rejected outright or even facing legal repercussions.

www.experian.com

Yeah, you pass a driving test.

You're the one defending a guy who has been judged to owe 1/2 a billion dollars. Yep...you sound pretty desperate that your cult leader can't pay his bills.

And a written test, you simp.

And when accepting a license, YOU agree to follow the rules that apply to DRIVING ON PUBLIC ROADS!

 

[Aldo Raine]

I'm going to start buying old trailers for 2k and get 200k loans on them

That's a fantastic idea, get on that!!!!
MAGA

 

[MagicMike]

You seem to be flunking 3rd grade again.

The shit missile that stole President Trump's tax returns just started a 5 year stretch in a federal prison. The stolen tax returns were thoroughly examined and the story disappeared like a tranny shooting up an elementary school. Yeah, he pays lots of taxes.

Thanks for the opportunity to laugh and point at you.... and your pigeon English.

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Isn't it about time for Trump to release tax returns for his next run for office?
Or is he going to pull the same bullshit of keeping his fraudulent books hidden and offering lame excuses about "being under audit"....again.....which you dimwitted MAGAt's will not only swallow hook, line, and sinker.....but will repeat for him....because you know....MAGAts.
Extremely SLOW learners.

 

[BluesLegend]

check this out...

In his ruling the judge accused Trump’s lawyers of living in a “fantasy world” in which “square footage [is] subjective”. He ruled that Trump had overvalued his Trump Tower apartment by up to $207mn, falsely stating in annual financial records that it was almost three times its actual size, and — in one year — exaggerated the value of apartments in Park Avenue by 700 per cent.

the important part is here "annual financial records". These are from the Trump organization. Should the bank have verified the valuations in the financial records with their own professional appraisal? Perhaps in hindsight, perhaps they should, but it appears the convention is to use business documents for a loan to a business.

Who lost money? Nobody, they all made money. Banks value the assets themselves they don't rely on the borrowers everyone knows that. FFS Dems are stupid.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Who lost money? Nobody, they all made money. Banks value the assets themselves they don't rely on the borrowers everyone knows that. FFS Dems are stupid.

/----/ "FFS Dems are stupid."
Stupid isn't the correct word. I bet most of them know how real estate works. It's been explained to them hundreds of times since this disaster started. They need to push the narrative that Trump committed a crime, even if, deep down inside, they know it's not true.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

OP is really a piece of garbage, you could have just stated you suffer from TDS and be done with it. Let's look at your first paragraph for instance. You say..........

"I remember when “conservatives” used to pretend to care about law and order. That was before they decided to prostate themselves to an orange messiah because feelingz."

That's a meaningless turd, but the irony is, I remember when "liberals" used to "pretend" to care about individual rights, viewed the govt. as corrupt, and the individual is innocent unless proved otherwise. You guys changed completely, now you want a BIG ASS Govt. to control you, us, you desire they provide your substance too, and you view the individual as guilty until proven innocent.

You guys aren't liberals. Left liberalism is dead, because you guys destroyed that too.

 

[Lastamender]

Yup….the dullards you’ve ellected from Reagan, to Bush to Trump, are the most forgetful dullards we’ve ever had. That’s why so much criminality is prosecuted during their admins.
So you’re right, these idiots can’t remember shit….from one lie to another. What’s funny is, Trump is so bad, even Bush votes against him…hilarious. You hate eachother.

Trump has nothing to do with Reagan or Bush. And Bush being against Trump shows exactly why there is a Deep State and why both parties are controlled by them.

 

[BluesLegend]

There's over $1 trillion dollars in student loan debt. Borrowers claim they can't earn enough with the degree they paid for to pay back the loans. ACTUAL FRAUD in the hundreds of billions. When will universities be charged and held accountable?

 

[Dagosa]

Trump has nothing to do with Reagan or Bush. And Bush being against Trump shows exactly why there is a Deep State and why both parties are controlled by them.

The stupid deep state narrative…..

So Trump, leading candidate for the Republican Party that’s under control of the deep state. One thing dufus, why is he the leading candidate of a party that’s being controlled by democrats ? Why is it that out of all the members of his previous cabinet, only four suport him for president. Were his appointees all democrats ? Or, was Trump just too stupid and he couldn’t get trans Rudy and his family to be his entire cabinet

 

[Lastamender]

The stupid deep state narrative…..

So Trump, leading candidate for the Republican Party that’s under control of the deep state. One thing dufus, why is he the leading candidate of a party that’s being controlled by democrats ? Why is it that out of all the members of his previous cabinet, only four suport him for president. Were his appointees all democrats ? Or, was Trump just too stupid and he couldn’t get trans Rudy and his family to be his entire cabinet

The "stupid" is all yours.

 

[Dagosa]

The "stupid" is all yours.

A declaration cry of the Humper.

 

[Lastamender]

A declaration cry of the Humper.

A meaningless comment from a fool. Next.

 

[Dagosa]

A meaningless comment from a fool. Next.

You’re drooling again….