expect Rams to be back in LA next year.

to no surprise as always,Rams are the clear favorite who LA WANTs BACK.
NFL: Vote Now! Which Football Team Should Move to Los Angeles?

the LA times did a poll last summer on who they would want back the most between the Rams,Raiders,and chargers and the results were Rams coming in first with 60% of the votes,Raiders second with 35% and Chargers with 5%. plus ESPN did a vote among NFL fans around the country and same with the LA times poll,Rams came in first as the heavy favorite of the three.
 
Heard Fred Roggin on his show today right before he signed off and starting his vacation that something big should be announced prior to the NFL owners vote in January but he was sworn to secrecy. He will tell us about it when he comes back after his break. I strongly feel my LA Rams are coming back but that fucking Spanos asshole is doing his best to stop him.
 
St. Louis politicians make a nine-figure power play

“Under the terms of the lease that the Rams signed, the Edward Jones Dome is required to be ranked in the top tier of NFL stadiums through the 2015 season. If it is not, the Rams are free to break the lease and either relocate without penalty or continue to lease the Dome on a year-to-year basis”

It doesn’t matter if the NFL is a monopoly. If you are unwilling to spend tax-payer dollars on a stadium, you don’t have to. The NFL cannot make you. What you seem to confuse with that fact is that you are entitled to a team. You are not. It’s called “cost of doing business” which, combined with “what the traffic will bear” determines what the buyer pays the seller. The short description for that is “capitalism”. Live without a team and invest your tax money somewhere else…nobody’s forcing you.

You may not be talking about Kroenke, but this story is specifically about Kroenke, the Rams and St Louis (more specifically, its politicians). When you make general statements about greedy billionaires in it, you imply that you are included Kroenke among them. I don’t know if the guy is good or evil, but he’s certainly doing a more stand-up deal trying to move his team than what is being portrayed. If I had to pick a bad guy in all this, it would be St Louis, which appears to be lying to its populace while trying to guilt an owner into staying in a crappy stadium.

This is all the fault of the leaders of the city of St Louis and the CVC. Originally, the Rams and the CVC agreed to arbitration over the lease, the Rams won there. It was said to cost 700 million to make the EJD in the top 25% of stadiums. The CVC refused to spend that money which breached the contract and caused the Rams to go to a year to year lease. The Rams have never asked the City of St Louis for anything after that. Kroenke made his play for LA at that time, and St Louis started crying foul. The NFL may be stringing them along for the future, but unless the public contribution in St Louis is greater than 700 million the Rams are gone. And St Louis has no one but themselves to blame because they sold their souls to the devil 20 years ago to get the NFL back.
 
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st louis radio ADMITTING its over.that the Rams are going back to LA.:biggrin:

NFL Gives Middle Finger To St. Louis | KTRS | St Louis News and Talk Radio | The Big 550 AM


this st louis sportswriter is accepting reality the Rams are gone as well.:biggrin:
St. Louis' New NFL Stadium Falls into $112 Million Hole...And No One in the Media Seems to Wonder Why

But my own guess is that won’t be necessary. I’m thinking (not hoping) that on January 13, Goodell will be announcing that Kroenke will be joined by San Diego Chargers owner Dean Spanos in Kroenke’s proposed $1.8 billion stadium in Inglewood.

That, of course, is not certain. But this much is: It didn’t help St. Louis this week when it appeared to lose $112 million in ground on a financing proposal that NFL officials already considered shaky.

And I’m afraid it’s just one more step to the inevitable conclusion of NFL football in St. Louis.
 
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St. Louis approves financing package for new football stadium : News

Doesn't even concern me. Not one bit. Whatever STL comes up will not be good enough.

Dont forget the MO legislation lawsuits!!

Too many issues , too lil time !! NoW get the F@#koutta the Way.......THE LA RAMS TRAIN IS LEAVING ST

Grubman already shit on this plan. St. Louis wiped the shit off of it, but the stain is still there.

If Kroenke really wanted to stay is St. Louis, he would be building his own stadium that he would own. He is willing to split LA 50/50 with Spanos and still make a huge profit. No way he stays.

It means the deal is DEAD. 75% of the state legislature has already stated they will NOT fun any bonds period without a vote from the citizens or legislature. Turn out the light, the party's over.

Let's just look at the things we know:

1) The stadium financials in StL actually got WORSE, not better, since Grubman blasted them on Bernie's show a week or so back.

2) There is a stadium sized hole being dug in Inglewood, right next to the Forum. As of 12/17/15 at around 4 PM, the only structure still remaining on the 298 acre lot at Hollywood Park is the Casino, which is in the process of being relocated. All other rubble is cleared.

3) Carson stinks...literally...there is a noticible stench emenating from the land, and no real activity to be seen. This site was also visited on 12/17/15 by yours truly.

4) The NFL, should it vote to do so, CANNOT stop Stan Kroenke from exercising his right as a business owner to relocate his business to the city of his choosing. To abridge that right would be a prima facie antitrust violation, and against U.S. Federal Statute. Damages on a case of this sort are "treble damages," which indicate that awards are tripled.

5) Bylaws-Schmylaws
 
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What Roger Goodell's "Letter" Really Means - 101Sports.com


Hey Barnie , I could only read down a few paragraphs before I knew that this article is just another one of your whining episodes that frankly I believed your therapy and counselling would had resulted in some kind of realization that the demons in your mind aren't Stan Kroenke , Kevin Demoff , Roger Goodell or Eric Grubman but instead is your deep instilled hatred embedded inside of you that you just can't let go .

" ... About that extra $100 million from the NFL to the St. Louis project? Not so fast, Goodell warned. The NFL guarantees nothing.
On the surface, it seemed harsh. Ominous. Another smackdown from a league that doesn’t hesitate to bully anyone to get what it wants. But was this some horrible development that will bring down STL’s plans for a new football house?... "

Barnie , Barnie , Barnie ... Why don't you , in your expert sports reporting and analysis just give Missouri Senator Schaaf a ring and i'm sure he'll explain it all to you . The Missouri State Legislature is your true demon that you are continuing to reject because they are the final say in deciding the fate of your new stadium financing plan that is so flawed that the NFL doesn't want anything to do with it .
 
Regardless of which members of the committee made the $100 million non-commitment, the committee is giving Rams owner Stan Kroenke plenty of ammunition for pushing back against the final recommendation of the committee — either in the meeting room or, eventually, in a courtroom.

Two L.A. Committee members suggested extra $100 million for St. Louis stadium


As if Kroenke needed any more fuel behind his imminent lawsuit against the NFL.

  1. Kroenke has already plunked down several million towards moving the Rams to LA. His commitment is clear. Apparently so is the commitment of his opposition.

    If it’s true that several (more than two) members of the LA relocation committee are opposed to moving the Rams then it’s probably more personal than business.

    So the first question is what did Kroenke do/say that ruffled so many feathers? The second question is Kroenke willing to back down? If no, will he take the league to court? (Newsflash … he’ll win if he does).

    I’ll say it again: Despite all their sabre rattleing the NFL is POWERLESS at preventing teams from moving to open markets. They can vote however they want but at the end of the day Stan Kroenke will rape them in anti-trust court if they try to block him from moving. He’ll not only get to move to LA and pay no relocation fees, the NFL will end up paying him to move there exactly as they did Al Davis.
I so hope knoenke announces that he’s moving his team to LA regardless of the league’s wishes and that, furthermore, he will not pay a dime to the league in relocation fees. I can’t think of a group more deserving of a slap in the face and a fight they can’t win than goddell, Mara/tisch, johnson, irsay, biscotti, Rooney , Richardson, and McNair.

I would like to know how the NFL thinks the Raiders-Chargers partnership would be more successful than the Rams in returning to LA.

First, there is no plan for an interim venue aside from the Coliseum as of next season, and because of USC and scheduling complexities only one team would be suitable to play in LA for the next couple of seasons while the new stadium is built in either case. I suspect if nothing is set in stone within the next couple of months, things may be already too late for the 2016 season.

Second, is the Carson stadium plan as concrete as the plan in Inglewood? Whereas Inglewood may have the FAA to deal with at the moment, the project is shovel-ready. Carson on the other hand is a bunch of hearsay regarding finances, EIRs, site cleanups and anything conclusive from either the Chargers or Raiders.

Third, have the NFL owners considered which division realignment plan to proceed with if they somehow greenlight the Raiders-Chargers in Carson? Right now none of which makes sense and breaking a division that has existed since the AFL’s beginning is already a tough pill to swallow.

The reason why only moving the Rams to LA would make sense is that there are no contingency plans required except for an interim stadium, and I’m certain USC would work with the Rams as opposed to anyone else.

And just in case nobody bothered to look at Google Maps, St. Louis is geographically closer to Indianapolis, Nashville, and Houston as opposed to Seattle, Phoenix, and San Francisco, or even Jacksonville for that Matter.

I would like to know how the NFL thinks the Raiders-Chargers partnership would be more successful than the Rams in returning to LA.

First, there is no plan for an interim venue aside from the Coliseum as of next season, and because of USC and scheduling complexities only one team would be suitable to play in LA for the next couple of seasons while the new stadium is built in either case. I suspect if nothing is set in stone within the next couple of months, things may be already too late for the 2016 season.

Second, is the Carson stadium plan as concrete as the plan in Inglewood? Whereas Inglewood may have the FAA to deal with at the moment, the project is shovel-ready. Carson on the other hand is a bunch of hearsay regarding finances, EIRs, site cleanups and anything conclusive from either the Chargers or Raiders.

Third, have the NFL owners considered which division realignment plan to proceed with if they somehow greenlight the Raiders-Chargers in Carson? Right now none of which makes sense and breaking a division that has existed since the AFL’s beginning is already a tough pill to swallow.

The reason why only moving the Rams to LA would make sense is that there are no contingency plans required except for an interim stadium, and I’m certain USC would work with the Rams as opposed to anyone else.

And just in case nobody bothered to look at Google Maps, St. Louis is geographically closer to Indianapolis, Nashville, and Houston as opposed to Seattle, Phoenix, and San Francisco, or even Jacksonville for that Matter.

Mike Johnson, you are too stupid to realize the committee is screwing st louis with what they are doing. This is what they call collusion and if you think stan is going to take this'...you are absolutely stupid.

Truth hurts Mike Johnson, what truth have you said? You think you know it all but you fail to read the whole story. 150 million, not enough, payment on bonds, nope legislation already said not happening and Kronkie isn't paying a dime towards StL stadium.

the 6 member committee has no power only suggestions to the remainder

Now that would never happen way can't people realize that the rams are the only team that will work in Los Angeles not just any team they have the history and built in fan base and what a homecoming it will be the nfl says it wants to get it right that's the way

First of all I live in st . Louis . But it seems to me the only team that will make a big splash in la are the rams. They were there almost fifty years. I was glad to have the opportunity to spend the last twenty years watching them and they brought this city a nfl championship and played in two superbowls, they left us with good memories.

No I won't remain a rams fan, I wasn't one until they came here and if they should leave I won't remain one. I was a diehard big red fan but when they moved I stopped rooting for them as well.

I became a chiefs fan when the cards left and they were already my team before the rams got here. I would have to lose the rams, but if we do I would rather see them go to los angeles rather than anywhere else. I hope this doesn't drag out another year, two years has been long enough. If they are leaving I would just as soon it be now, thanks for the memories.
 
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KFVS : Lt. Gov. Kinder calls for more football stadium details

You have to ask if the majority of the NFL owners are business men or boy’s club members. If they are business men, then you will see Kroenke move his franchise to LA, where he will use his own money to buy a stadium and the owners will not have to kick in money to keep the team in St.Louis. As for Spanos and his Chargers, he will need to decide whether he can co-exist with Kroenke and the Rams in LA, work with the City of San Diego and the NFL on building a new facility there, move the franchise to another city (St. Louis, San Antonio??), or sell the team to new owners.

If they are boys club members, then they help out their buddy Spanos with a team in LA. Of course this is a terrible business decision, since the LA fans don’t support the Chargers, Spanos cannot front a stadium on his own (NFL will have to kick in $$ or allow the Raiders to join in the move to LA, which would be disastrous for many reasons), Kroenke won’t be happy, plus the NFL will have to kick in money for the St. Louis stadium.

My guess is that we will see the LA Rams and the San Diego Chargers playing in the NFL in 2016.

Kroenke doesn’t care what St. Louis is offering. He bought land in LA and is willing to spend his own money to build the stadium. Between the land, the 500 million dollar relocation fee, and the 1 billion plus for the That has to be close to 2 billion dollars. This isn’t the usual power play from an owner to squeeze more money from an existing city. He just doesn’t want to be there. What’s 100 million dollars when the man wants to spend 20 times as much to leave?

All these teams want to go to Los Angeles because it is the best city in the United States. You would be crazy to want to live in a hovel like Pittsburgh or St. Louis, where they do have running water, but it is full of mine tailings.
 
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Jay Glazer reported on Fox NFL Sunday that his league sources have indicated that it’s currently the San Diego Chargers that have the most support among league owners.

San Diego and the Chargers are miles apart on a stadium deal and they’re in dire need of new facilities, with Qualcomm Stadium among the worst in the NFL. And, while the other two franchises were previously located in Los Angeles, moving the Bolts to LA would be the least alienating move of all, with San Diego fans still close enough to travel to their new home to support the Chargers.

Chargers Have Most Support For Move To LA Per Report - TPS
 
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