exactly what are "free-riders" per Pelosi???

[healthmyths]

As much as I dislike this president's agenda I have to stick up for him out of fairness. When he said folks' taxes wouldn't go up a single dime, not one single dime, he was telling the truth. They'll go up a whole lot of dimes, many multiples of dimes.

No one's taxes are going up unless you are a freeloader without health insurance and refuse to get it.

Explain something to me..
If a "freeloader" goes to a hospital and the hospital performs a service do you think they just let a "freeloader" walk out?
You obviously NEVER been behind the registration desk of an emergency room and
the automatic question is who is your insurance carrier?
Then they ask for identification.
If you give them a phony address and phony information YOU REALiZE that is a felony fraud!
So most people that are categorized ignorantly by Pelosi are NOT free loaders!
They pay their bills when the get them!
The pay their doctor generally DON"T go to an emergency room as an "uninsured"!!
So once again idiots like you and Pelosi have made the EXCEPTION your rule!
The Majority of "free-loaders" ARE NOT!
They pay and I think Pelosi and people like you are part of a shrinking group because you and Obama attack businesses where most working people work!
YOU /Obama attack the 17.5 million people under age 34 that make over $50k and most likely voted for Obama ARE NOW targets for scorn by Obama/Pelosi and idiots like YOU!
Keep it up! Pretty soon the voting blocs will be totally turned against Obama because you
can't continual tear people down that have PAID the freight!

And these people are the consumers, the bloc advertisers like and believe me they are listening to idiots like Pelosi NoW attacking them!
Keep it up MONKEY Boys!

 

[AmericanFirst]

the uninsured--those whom the Affordable Care Act was supposed to benefit--as "free riders." Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.

Read more: Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

SO who are these "free riders"?? People according to Pelosi that CHOOSE not to buy though they can afford it! Fact is 17.5 million are under 34, make $50k+ and choose NOT to spend money on health insurance.

BUT what do they do when they get sick? Do they NOT pay? I'm sure a few don't!
BUT MOST pay out of their pocket. Owe the physician/hospitals NOTHING!

So what is then the purpose of INCLUDING THEM in the ranks of the UNINSURED?
As the 10 million who are counted uninsured but AREN"T CITIZENS and 14 million that ARE Covered by Medicaid but ARE wrongly counted as "uninsured"!
SO ACA was passed because MOST people thought there were 47 million to 50 million!

So if Pelosi passed the bill because she counted the 17.5 million who she NOW calls derisively "free loaders"... People SHE claims are using health care without paying for it!
WHICH IS A TOTAL LIE!

People you can't have it both ways!
Either there aren't 50 million uninsured or the 17.5 million are not free loaders!
Either it is a TAX which would have NEVER passed if some that voted thought it was a tax!
OR it isn't and yet SCOTUS declared it a TAX so those that voted for it were defrauded, mislead and their constituents MUST hold them responsible!

Who knows what that bimbo says, she confuses herself.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I thought you right wingers hate the lazy bums mooching off of others? You should be all for the ACA which makes the free loaders get insurance to stop having others pay for it.

Don't forget the individual mandate is a republican idea,...

Hey stupid, the bill doesn't help those that cannot afford it, it only makes things worse. The dimwits proved again how stupid they are.

 

[WillowTree]

the uninsured--those whom the Affordable Care Act was supposed to benefit--as "free riders." Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.

Read more: Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

SO who are these "free riders"?? People according to Pelosi that CHOOSE not to buy though they can afford it! Fact is 17.5 million are under 34, make $50k+ and choose NOT to spend money on health insurance.

BUT what do they do when they get sick? Do they NOT pay? I'm sure a few don't!
BUT MOST pay out of their pocket. Owe the physician/hospitals NOTHING!

So what is then the purpose of INCLUDING THEM in the ranks of the UNINSURED?
As the 10 million who are counted uninsured but AREN"T CITIZENS and 14 million that ARE Covered by Medicaid but ARE wrongly counted as "uninsured"!
SO ACA was passed because MOST people thought there were 47 million to 50 million!

So if Pelosi passed the bill because she counted the 17.5 million who she NOW calls derisively "free loaders"... People SHE claims are using health care without paying for it!
WHICH IS A TOTAL LIE!

People you can't have it both ways!
Either there aren't 50 million uninsured or the 17.5 million are not free loaders!
Either it is a TAX which would have NEVER passed if some that voted thought it was a tax!
OR it isn't and yet SCOTUS declared it a TAX so those that voted for it were defrauded, mislead and their constituents MUST hold them responsible!

Free Riders, the 50% of American that pay zero FEDERAL INCOME tax. FREE Riders.

 

[AmericanFirst]

As I've pointed out Pelosi et.al. supporters are getting more caught in their deceptions!
First there were 50 million uninsured. Now we find out they are "free -riders" but then we find out
those despicable Free-riders generally pay their own way so where are they "free riders"?
Then we have all those voters for Obamacare thinking this will not have any taxes finding out from SCOTUS IT IS A TAX!
Then as Pelosi said we have to pass it to know what's in it.. THERE ARE 21 NEW taxes that will affect people making less then $120,000 which again was a lie from Obama remember..

if your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime. In fact, the recovery plan provides a tax cut – that’s right, a tax cut – for 95% of working families.

If obamaturds mouth moves he is lying.

 

[Black_Label]

I thought you right wingers hate the lazy bums mooching off of others? You should be all for the ACA which makes the free loaders get insurance to stop having others pay for it.

Don't forget the individual mandate is a republican idea,...

Hey stupid, the bill doesn't help those that cannot afford it, it only makes things worse. The dimwits proved again how stupid they are.

Do you take pride in your stupidity? You must be one of those bottom feeders that keeps punching (R) at every election because you think it will make you rich one day

Even for the right wing trailer park types that refuse to work and can't afford to pay for heath care, basic care will be provided.

 

[healthmyths]

I thought you right wingers hate the lazy bums mooching off of others? You should be all for the ACA which makes the free loaders get insurance to stop having others pay for it.

Don't forget the individual mandate is a republican idea,...

Hey stupid, the bill doesn't help those that cannot afford it, it only makes things worse. The dimwits proved again how stupid they are.

Do you take pride in your stupidity? You must be one of those bottom feeders that keeps punching (R) at every election because you think it will make you rich one day

Even for the right wing trailer park types that refuse to work and can't afford to pay for heath care, basic care will be provided.

I think you don't know as does Pelosi the demographics of the "free-loaders".
17.5 million who when Pelosi wanted Obamacare passed INCLUDED them as the "uninsured" which along with 10 million NOT citizens and 14 million covered by Medicaid
were all included as the "uninsured"! 41.5 million of the so-called 50 million uninsured.

NOW Pelosi and others going after the 17.5 million "uninsured" are now "Free loaders" i.e. do not have insurance but according to Pelosi go to emergency room get treatments and not pay.

BUT once again hyperbole exaggeration and closer examination show THIS IS A LIE!
These 17.5 million are under age 34.. so they are primarily healthy and don't use services.
LIE 1.
These 17.5 million are also earning over $50,000 a year so they under law when they misrepresent their financial status are STEALING so why would they be lying about their financial status and RISK their $50,000+ income?
Lie 2.

Finally these "free-loaders" DON'T walk away without paying. They pay so where are they "free-loading"???
LIE 3.

So here we have 3 bald face LIES used by Pelosi and people like you without ANY regard for the FACTS!

I just don't understand people like you! Do you really believe the people that
A) Told you there were 50 million uninsured.. now it's 30 million come on how hard!
B) Told you Obamacare WAS NOT a Tax.. YET SCOTUS says it is and today 21 new
taxes affecting people making less then $120,000.. counter to the LIE no one under $250,000 will see their taxes rise!
C) Now we have the 17.5 million when needed as a "uninsured" to pump the numbers were used and NOW that they are attacking them as "free-loaders"???

 

[8537]

The same 17.5 that are under 34 are also making more than 50K?

This is a new frontier in rightwing statistics.

 

[onecut39]

the uninsured--those whom the Affordable Care Act was supposed to benefit--as "free riders." Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.

Read more: Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

SO who are these "free riders"?? People according to Pelosi that CHOOSE not to buy though they can afford it! Fact is 17.5 million are under 34, make $50k+ and choose NOT to spend money on health insurance.

BUT what do they do when they get sick? Do they NOT pay? I'm sure a few don't!
BUT MOST pay out of their pocket. Owe the physician/hospitals NOTHING!

So what is then the purpose of INCLUDING THEM in the ranks of the UNINSURED?
As the 10 million who are counted uninsured but AREN"T CITIZENS and 14 million that ARE Covered by Medicaid but ARE wrongly counted as "uninsured"!
SO ACA was passed because MOST people thought there were 47 million to 50 million!

So if Pelosi passed the bill because she counted the 17.5 million who she NOW calls derisively "free loaders"... People SHE claims are using health care without paying for it!
WHICH IS A TOTAL LIE!

People you can't have it both ways!
Either there aren't 50 million uninsured or the 17.5 million are not free loaders!
Either it is a TAX which would have NEVER passed if some that voted thought it was a tax!
OR it isn't and yet SCOTUS declared it a TAX so those that voted for it were defrauded, mislead and their constituents MUST hold them responsible!

I guess the height of silliness in this extremely silly post is that you consider those on medicaid as being "insured".

All those young freeloaders who get hit with those uninsured medical costs and are forced to declare bankruptcy might possibly end up on medicaid.

In case he did not know, when bankruptcy is declared the debts are not paid.

This isn't a post, it is a rant.

 

[onecut39]

I thought you right wingers hate the lazy bums mooching off of others? You should be all for the ACA which makes the free loaders get insurance to stop having others pay for it.

Don't forget the individual mandate is a republican idea,...

Hey stupid, the bill doesn't help those that cannot afford it, it only makes things worse. The dimwits proved again how stupid they are.

That has to be right up there in the all time silly sayings.

 

[healthmyths]

As much as I dislike this president's agenda I have to stick up for him out of fairness. When he said folks' taxes wouldn't go up a single dime, not one single dime, he was telling the truth. They'll go up a whole lot of dimes, many multiples of dimes.

No one's taxes are going up unless you are a freeloader without health insurance and refuse to get it.

What exactly is a "Free-loader"??

There are 18 million people under age 34,make over $50k PAY out of their own pocket their health care services because they don't USE health care services ENOUGH to justify participating in their EMPLOYER insurance!

Are you telling me that ALL those 18 million go to the doctor, hospital, NEVER pay their bills get badgered by bill collectors and take bankruptcy to avoid payments?

Are ALL those 18 million DEADBEATS? Is that what they are?

 

[Stephanie]

Don't you American people like being referred to as Free riders by your elected Representatives?

and people will still around and vote for the idiots..

this country is doomed

 

[healthmyths]

Don't you American people like being referred to as Free riders by your elected Representatives?

and people will still around and vote for the idiots..

this country is doomed

It is if we can't get rid of people that can't do simple arithmetic!
I mean the Census Bureau says 10 million of supposedly 50 million uninsured -NOT citizens!
and subtract 14 million that ARE ALREADY covered by Medicaid are counted "uninsured"!
And subtract 18 million of those "free-loader-riders" that PAY their own health expenses out of their OWN pocket because they don't have that much at age under 34 and can afford to by making more then $50,000 a year so they don't take employers' insurance!

THAT leaves 8 million NOT 50 million TRULY uninsured so WHY the effort to destroy the 1,400 health insurance companies, their $100 billion a year in Federal/state/local and local property taxes and unemploy 500,000 health insurance employees which will then through them on unemployment at $15 billion a year in checks!


All for 2.5% of the USA population! Destroying $100 billion in tax revenue, putting 500,000 people out of work...WHY???

 

[dblack]

This whole "free-rider" concept is bullshit anyway. We don't presume guilt in our justice system and a person who goes without insurance is harming no one. People who don't pay their bills are, but that can happen with or without insurance. And despite the claims of insurance salesman (read: Congress), you can also pay your bills with or without insurance.

This presumption of guilt around people who go without, or with very little, is immoral and unjust. We need less insurance in this country, not more.

 

[dblack]

I thought you right wingers hate the lazy bums mooching off of others?

I used to think that too, but lately it seems that liberals are even more uptight, selfish pricks than conservatives are. They even seem proud of it. Go figure.

To be fair, this isn't an issue with 'conservatives' or 'liberals'. It's an issue with corrupt, corporatist government - which covers most Democrat and Republican politicians.

 

[healthmyths]

This whole "free-rider" concept is bullshit anyway. We don't presume guilt in our justice system and a person who goes without insurance is harming no one. People who don't pay their bills are, but that can happen with or without insurance. And despite the claims of insurance salesman (read: Congress), you can also pay your bills with or without insurance.

This presumption of guilt around people who go without, or with very little, is immoral and unjust. We need less insurance in this country, not more.

My point on the thread was WHEN Pelosi et.al. wanted Obamacare passed, THEY counted these under 34, over $50k employed but uninsured as part of the 50 million!

Then when passed and SCOTUS said it was a TAX, these 18 million are not called "free-loaders"... EVEN though under current consumer laws if this group DIDN"T pay out of pocket their health services costs they'd be billed, if they didn't pay sued, and if didn't pay..judgements and this group's credit affected!

SO Pelosi's gross mislabeling as "free loaders" is totally wrong and those under 34, making over $50k are NOT going to forget that label when they step into the voting booth!
FREE LOADERS! Don't pay their health bills! BUMS!!!

 

[dblack]

Are ALL those 18 million DEADBEATS? Is that what they are?

They are intelligent people making sane choices. Is it any surprise corrupt government sees them as a threat?

 

[healthmyths]

As much as I dislike this president's agenda I have to stick up for him out of fairness. When he said folks' taxes wouldn't go up a single dime, not one single dime, he was telling the truth. They'll go up a whole lot of dimes, many multiples of dimes.

No one's taxes are going up unless you are a freeloader without health insurance and refuse to get it.

What is a "freeloader"???

Especially the 18 million over $50K, under age 34, that now HERE IS THE MAIN POINT!!!

THEY PAY their OWN way! They pay their health services bills themselves! They don't
send in claims... THEY pay out of pocket!

So WHERE are these "FREE-LOADERS"????

Are YOU a "free loader" at your supermarket? Are you a free-loader when you buy gas?
So if you go to the doctor they present a bill to the patient.. WHO pays?

Does this member under age 34 earning over $50K NOT PAY?

Does this member WANT of under 34 over $50K want a BAD CREDIT reference?

Of course NOT!

But see you are evidently part of that "FREE-LOADING" category right??
YOU don't pay your bills right???