Every picture of "Ground Zero" is evidence of explosives used.

So...

the jet airliners that got flown into the twin towers were just part of a clever cover story to conceal that individuals inside the shadow gubmint of Amerika were actually doing the deeds.

And these shadow boys cleverly got al qaeda to declare war on us in time to have some otherwise utterly ineffectual Islamshitbrains trained to hijack and fly said jetliners from Mass to NYC and into both towers (putting aside the Pentagon and the failed effort in PA for the moment).

The Islamofucktards NEVER thought to ask the shadow-fuckers from inside Amerika, "Why the devil should we commit silly acts of suicide if you already have the buildings wired to go?" Just tell the American people that WE did it and we'll be more than happy to take credit for it but it won't cost us any of our 'soldiers.'"

Somebody over on the Troofer Aisle, please handle that inquiry!

the evidence says wtc 7 was brought down by controlled demolition not office fires as far as the rest of your rambling goes ..all I can say is your understanding of the workings of a false flag operation are so distorted and inane that they are not worth addressing
 
So...

the jet airliners that got flown into the twin towers were just part of a clever cover story to conceal that individuals inside the shadow gubmint of Amerika were actually doing the deeds.

And these shadow boys cleverly got al qaeda to declare war on us in time to have some otherwise utterly ineffectual Islamshitbrains trained to hijack and fly said jetliners from Mass to NYC and into both towers (putting aside the Pentagon and the failed effort in PA for the moment).

The Islamofucktards NEVER thought to ask the shadow-fuckers from inside Amerika, "Why the devil should we commit silly acts of suicide if you already have the buildings wired to go?" Just tell the American people that WE did it and we'll be more than happy to take credit for it but it won't cost us any of our 'soldiers.'"

Somebody over on the Troofer Aisle, please handle that inquiry!

the evidence says wtc 7 was brought down by controlled demolition not office fires as far as the rest of your rambling goes ..all I can say is your understanding of the workings of a false flag operation are so distorted and inane that they are not worth addressing

Inane ramblings is your stock in trade.

It the Twin Towers were not brought down by the effects of the fires caused by the jet liners crashing into them, then they must have been wired.

As for WTC7, we know it was struck by debris and caused to go up in flames, in an inferno that was barely controlled in ANY way due to the fact that responders had other pressing duties on their hands. There is still not a single solitary shred of credible evdeence that anyone wired WTC 7 or planted ANY explosives in it. Not one sigle solitary shred.

False flag?

Either it was done by outsiders or it was done by insiders (or they somehow managed to cooperate).

If it wasn't done by the Islamoshit, then your thesis HAS to be that it was done by traitorous scum INSIDE Amerika. Yet you are utterly unable to describe WHO would do such a thing, what they wuld even HOPE to accomplish or how they went about it all without getting caught well before 9/11/2001.

You are a lying scumbag retard piece of fucking shit. Ad that's the last time I have any kind words about you.
 
...
All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...



-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=
OnlineArticles&SubSe%20ction=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=
25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticles&
SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=130026

Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

NOVA | Building on Ground Zero | PBS

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

Update:

A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called 9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.
 
So...

the jet airliners that got flown into the twin towers were just part of a clever cover story to conceal that individuals inside the shadow gubmint of Amerika were actually doing the deeds.

And these shadow boys cleverly got al qaeda to declare war on us in time to have some otherwise utterly ineffectual Islamshitbrains trained to hijack and fly said jetliners from Mass to NYC and into both towers (putting aside the Pentagon and the failed effort in PA for the moment).

The Islamofucktards NEVER thought to ask the shadow-fuckers from inside Amerika, "Why the devil should we commit silly acts of suicide if you already have the buildings wired to go?" Just tell the American people that WE did it and we'll be more than happy to take credit for it but it won't cost us any of our 'soldiers.'"

Somebody over on the Troofer Aisle, please handle that inquiry!

the evidence says wtc 7 was brought down by controlled demolition not office fires as far as the rest of your rambling goes ..all I can say is your understanding of the workings of a false flag operation are so distorted and inane that they are not worth addressing

Inane ramblings is your stock in trade.

It the Twin Towers were not brought down by the effects of the fires caused by the jet liners crashing into them, then they must have been wired.

As for WTC7, we know it was struck by debris and caused to go up in flames, in an inferno that was barely controlled in ANY way due to the fact that responders had other pressing duties on their hands. There is still not a single solitary shred of credible evdeence that anyone wired WTC 7 or planted ANY explosives in it. Not one sigle solitary shred.

False flag?

Either it was done by outsiders or it was done by insiders (or they somehow managed to cooperate).

If it wasn't done by the Islamoshit, then your thesis HAS to be that it was done by traitorous scum INSIDE Amerika. Yet you are utterly unable to describe WHO would do such a thing, what they wuld even HOPE to accomplish or how they went about it all without getting caught well before 9/11/2001.

You are a lying scumbag retard piece of fucking shit. Ad that's the last time I have any kind words about you.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Qg_-89Zr8[/ame]
 
Fizz, you just can't make this shit up. It's real,

You are defending a story put out by people who try and get themselves pardons before they leave office.

Why do you defend against a new investigation into people of the likes of this?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE"]YouTube- CNN BUSH UNITED NATIONS[/ame]
 
Every picture of "Ground Zero" is evidence of explosives used.

EVERYTHING but the steel was exploded into a huge pyroclastic cloud of dust BEFORE it even hits the ground.

If everything WASN'T exploded into dust then the rubble pile of the Twin Towers at Ground Zero would have been HUGE and MUCH HIGHER than it was.

wtcsmoke.jpg


site1103.jpg


fig-5-14.jpg

So, what you're telling me is the two airplanes didn't crash into the towers? Seen it with my own eyes. I think the only thing exploading are the brain cells inside your noggin!
 
...
All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...



-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=
OnlineArticles&SubSe%20ction=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=
25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticles&
SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=130026

Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

NOVA | Building on Ground Zero | PBS

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

Update:

A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called 9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.


fuck what a dumb uninformed individual you are..you want military..FBI...CIA
well here you go Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
 
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Every picture of "Ground Zero" is evidence of explosives used.

EVERYTHING but the steel was exploded into a huge pyroclastic cloud of dust BEFORE it even hits the ground.

If everything WASN'T exploded into dust then the rubble pile of the Twin Towers at Ground Zero would have been HUGE and MUCH HIGHER than it was.

wtcsmoke.jpg


site1103.jpg


fig-5-14.jpg

So, what you're telling me is the two airplanes didn't crash into the towers? Seen it with my own eyes. I think the only thing exploading are the brain cells inside your noggin!

where does this imbecile get the Idea anyone here is saying the towers were not hit by planes ?? is it stupidity or intentional ???
 
where does this imbecile get the Idea anyone here is saying the towers were not hit by planes ?? is it stupidity or intentional ???

they are pretty much mutually exclusive.

how do you fly an airplane into the exact floor that has the explosives wired to blow up first? how does the wiring for a controlled demolition survive an airplane hitting it?

or...

how do you send people into a raging inferno with explosives and have them wire them up??

please explain how either scenario works in detail.:cuckoo:
 
The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial
 
The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial

id-eots cannot post a coherent sentence, yet is miffed that folks don't buy his moronic conspiracy theory.

There is still not a single solitary shred of credible evidence that any explosives were used, nor of WHO would do it, nor why, nor how, nor when.

It is such a monumentally irrational bit of lunatic conspiracy theory, in fact, that not one of the TROOFERS is willing to even address those questions.

Quite simply put, it is a virtual certainty that nobody did or could have planted all the demolition materials needed within any time-frame consistent with nobody having noticed their presence prior to the attacks. And the logistics involved of coordinating that bit of impossibility with the Islamoshitfuckers' attacks using hijacked jet airliners? Wow. We'd need a few more universes to calculate those odds.

Id-eots remains a lying moron piece of fucking shit.
 
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The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial


It's impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can't you think for just a moment about all the prove you have been shown, and all the answers to questions that you just don't have.

There was no way in hell to plant 100 tons or more of explosives in those buildings and have a controlled demo with:

1. Planes hitting the buildings.
2. No one working in the buildings getting suspicious.
3. No one of the thousands who would have to be in on it not talking.

It simply is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
 
The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial

yes it is. it is EXACTLY what an investigation is for.

its not impossible that huge meteors came down and hit the WTC towers too but its also highly unlikely and there is no evidence for it. so how much time and resources should be wasted proving meteors didnt do it?
 
The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial

yes it is. it is EXACTLY what an investigation is for.

its not impossible that huge meteors came down and hit the WTC towers too but its also highly unlikely and there is no evidence for it. so how much time and resources should be wasted proving meteors didnt do it?

don't read well do you ? and your analogies are as inane and pointless as you and it is indeed impossible the meteors caused the collapse.. imbecile
 
The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial


It's impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can't you think for just a moment about all the prove you have been shown, and all the answers to questions that you just don't have.

There was no way in hell to plant 100 tons or more of explosives in those buildings and have a controlled demo with:

1. Planes hitting the buildings.
2. No one working in the buildings getting suspicious.
3. No one of the thousands who would have to be in on it not talking.

It simply is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

people in the building did report suspicions and strange activity and you know this...your estimation is thousands in on it...this is a fallacy.. with the highest technology's and a group of people skilled at covert operations and it is far from impossible which is why so many highly ranked intelligence from military CIA and FBI have spoken out...where is bin laden ? why are his secrets not reveled ??
 
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people in the building did report suspensions and strange activity and you know this...your estimation is thousands in on it...this is a fallacy..the highest technology's and a group of people skilled at covert operations and it is far from impossible which is why so many highly ranked intelligence from military CIA and FBI have spoken out...where is bin laden ? why are his secrets not reveled ??

Do I have to post this again? :eusa_eh:


Don't you think someone would've come out and blown the whistle?

just like Watergate and Iran/Contra etc etc....

Please.. Your Ignorance makes me laugh. :eusa_hand:

...
All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...



-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=
OnlineArticles&SubSe%20ction=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=
25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticles&
SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=130026

Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

NOVA | Building on Ground Zero | PBS

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

Update:

A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called 9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.
 
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The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial

yes it is. it is EXACTLY what an investigation is for.

its not impossible that huge meteors came down and hit the WTC towers too but its also highly unlikely and there is no evidence for it. so how much time and resources should be wasted proving meteors didnt do it?

don't read well do you ? and your analogies are as inane and pointless as you and it is indeed impossible the meteors caused the collapse.. imbecile

there is just as much evidence that meteors caused the collapse as there is explosives. exactly the same amount.

its not that i dont read well. the problem is that you dont explain well. are you saying that if an investigation found evidence of explosives they would not ask how the explosives got there? thats fairly moronic. or am i misunderstanding what you are saying?
 
The proof of controlled demolition is there the evidence for building did it fires is not it is up to an investigation to answer how the explosives were planted..but to dismiss it as impossible is nothing more than denial

id-eots cannot post a coherent sentence, yet is miffed that folks don't buy his moronic conspiracy theory.

There is still not a single solitary shred of credible evidence that any explosives were used, nor of WHO would do it, nor why, nor how, nor when.

It is such a monumentally irrational bit of lunatic conspiracy theory, in fact, that not one of the TROOFERS is willing to even address those questions.

Quite simply put, it is a virtual certainty that nobody did or could have planted all the demolition materials needed within any time-frame consistent with nobody having noticed their presence prior to the attacks. And the logistics involved of coordinating that bit of impossibility with the Islamoshitfuckers' attacks using hijacked jet airliners? Wow. We'd need a few more universes to calculate those odds.

Id-eots remains a lying moron piece of fucking shit.

fuck you ..useless **** I stand proudly with these patriots

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

and you stand with this puppet king

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOMKdILRM5I[/ame]
 
yes it is. it is EXACTLY what an investigation is for.

its not impossible that huge meteors came down and hit the WTC towers too but its also highly unlikely and there is no evidence for it. so how much time and resources should be wasted proving meteors didnt do it?

don't read well do you ? and your analogies are as inane and pointless as you and it is indeed impossible the meteors caused the collapse.. imbecile

there is just as much evidence that meteors caused the collapse as there is explosives. exactly the same amount.

its not that i dont read well. the problem is that you dont explain well. are you saying that if an investigation found evidence of explosives they would not ask how the explosives got there? thats fairly moronic. or am i misunderstanding what you are saying?

I am saying only an independent investigation will revel the the details...but the evidence that building fires did it is just not there and the evidence for controlled demolition is

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-grSVHgwbY[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNgNptRgCok[/ame]
 

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