Every Day Should Be Buy American

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    Re: 'Shop Small' November 26Th - a good idea but why not extend it a bit. https://www.facebook.com/SmallBusinessSaturday?extlink=ps-gabmd-2011SBS and Shop Small

    I've always felt Americans could solve the jobs problem if they had the will and realized you sometimes need to pay more for a product made by someone who has a decent life. Most people would like a decent life. Instead, you hear whining about taxes and regulation and both have been higher and more stringent in the past. So why do we not ask ourselves why?

    So what have you done for America? Lots of whining but do you buy made in the USA? Do you drive a made in the America automobile? Do you support small and large businesses who build here? Do you support a fair wage? Scapegoating is heard too often, it is their fault: government, unions, immigrants, take your pick, history is full of examples, but what do you do for America? Do you support legislation that supports the America worker? The only thing I have seen worked since the 2008 election is talk, running your mouth is easy. Talk is cheap, but what do you do for America and its people? Ideas have power, but ideas should be about people. Time to put up or shut-up, Taxes have been reduced since John F. Kennedy and the economy has oddly performed the miracle many preach. Now is the time to fulfill your pledge given to the America people and to do something meaningful and stop pointing fingers. What have you done for America?

    Every day of the year buy American. Google 'made in America.'

    A few links:

    MadeInUSA - Home- Recycling American Dollars Through Patriotic Spending
    How Americans Can Buy American
    American Made Products Directory - Made in USA, United States Manufacturers
    THE AMERICAN LIST | A Continuous Lean.
    Shirts Made in USA : All American Clothing
    American and Unionmade Clothing by All USA Clothing


    Buy American = "Because Ford, GM and Chrysler conduct far more of their research, design, engineering, manufacturing and assembly work in the U.S. than foreign automakers do, buying a Ford, GM, or Chrysler supports almost three times as many jobs as buying the average foreign automobile. Some comparisons are even more striking. Buying a Ford supports 3.5 times more jobs than buying a Hyundai. Comparing a Honda and a Hyundai? Buying a Honda supports more than 2 times more jobs." The Level Field Institute


    Bumper stickers I'd like to see.

    Buy American - support all Americans, including yourself.

    Our children, our grandchildren, ourselves require we support each other, buy American.

    Quality! our Buick is number one.

    Buy American and Thumbs up! http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/128477-did-obama-save-gm-3.html#post2607852
     
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    How the hell you get an internet connection to back there in the 1980s?


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    Great idea but its no longer really possible to buy most of the stuff we need that is made in America.
     
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    Great. No more chocolate. No more coffee. Forget bananas. Ditch any programming from the BBC, and no whistling any Beatles or Stones tunes.

    Hey, the Bible was written by foreigners, burn them all!!!!
     
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    If i come to a roadblock, do I give up and go home? Americans today are tied to myths long propagated by economists who proved how much they know in 2008, not to mention a thousand times before that unknown strange event. ;) Listen I love my German and Japanese cameras but I like Kodak too, and the idea is, we buy here and support here when we can and we grow our businesses here when we can. Throwing up our hands is for quitters and Americans ain't quitters. Well maybe they are????

    See my links, our last four cars were all American and all made here, as are my bikes with Shimano parts. Now an American company is making bike parts, but darn they ain't made here. Consider for instance Verizon, which is making record profits and firing Americans while outsourcing to India. Imagine if enough people spoke up. Or we can all whine. As for us we are good and our kids too. But.....
     
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    I keep an incredibly long list of web sites worth a look or covering specific topics, of course, few are worth much time given we seem to have so little time. RustBelt Philosophy is one I read frequently. We need to return to the kind of argument Popper talks about and RBP does that. Check it out. I like the fact the recent piece took on Dennis Prager a wingnut of little real thought, who actually gets paid to do a useless job. ;) And since these pieces covered jobs corporations and government enjoy or not.

    Snippets below - you'll need to read if you want more.

    Rust Belt Philosophy: No, really: paging Dennis Prager...

    "It's perfectly possible, for instance, for a tiny niche company to survive and even thrive on the contributions of a small but devoted group of consumers, but when considered relative to the whole economy it would be ridiculous to say that "consumers" (sans qualification) value that company. This is not just a passing concern for Richman, either, because I'm fairly certain that we can find a decent-sized group of taxpayers who really do value things like infrastructure. While this group may not be large enough to suit Richman's tastes, he needs to make that explicit in his argument so that it can be evaluated fairly instead of leaving it vague and suggestive." Rust Belt Philosophy: More Sheldon Richman



    "I will conclude, therefore, by reminding you all that I shouldn't even have to have pointed any of this out to begin with. When people talk about using government infrastructure projects to create jobs, it doesn't fucking matter whether they're "real" jobs or not. Even if these mystery consumers of Richman's would rather have something else besides bridges, the fact remains that government workers are not unemployed. Even if they aren't working "real" jobs, they are earning real money. They are, therefore, really off the unemployment rolls, really spending money again, and so on. Within the current economic context, then, Richman's little hissy fit about terminology misses the point entirely: we can even go so far as to concede that government jobs aren't real jobs but still argue that we need them anyway because of the truly stupid way in which Richman has laid out his criteria. It remains true that Richman's argument is full of holes, mind you, but they are holes that we shouldn't even have to point out to him. If he can't bring himself to master the basics of rational discourse - and as of now he's 0 for 2 on that one - we have no obligation to treat him like anything other than the dimwit he is."
     
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    The contempt some people have for their own customers is the reason a good portion of the US manufacturing sector (especially autos) has been struggling in the first place. If the big 3 made quality cars that were in demand, sold them at a reasonable price, and continued to innovate instead of relying on an outdated business model none of this would be an issue.

    And when one says "Buy American" but then opposes the creation of jobs in South Carolina the slogan rings hollow.
     
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    So Midcan is declaring war on Christmas?
     
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    I get really upset about the perceptions a lot of Americans have about American products. They just don't understand that we're only hurting ourselves.
     
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    Me too, but getting upset isn't healthy. Let's remember the old proverb--
    “The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.”
    Horace Walpole quotes (English writer, connoisseur, and collector, 1717-1797)
    It's the fact that there're really not that many people griping about American products, we're just hearing from a few noisy whiners. US output is twice what it was three decades ago and our exports are at an all time high growing twice as fast as production. The reason we don't hear about it so much is because people that do things aren't nearly as noisey as those that complain about things.
     
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