Even white racists like Obama better....

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    Racists for Obama? - Ben Smith - Politico.com

    New polling and a trickle of stories from the battleground states suggest that Sen. Barack Obama's coalition includes one unlikely group: white voters with negative views of African-Americans.

    Race has become the elephant in the room of the 2008 presidential campaign, with Obama’s prospect of becoming the first black president drawing some Americans closer to him while pushing others away. At times, the contest has slipped into a familiar dynamic of allegations of racism and outraged denial — but it's also challenged some easy assumptions about race, racism and prejudice.

    “What you see is it’s perfectly possible to hold a negative view of at least one aspect of African-Americans and yet simultaneously prefer Obama,” said Charles Franklin, a political scientist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. “Racial feelings are not as cut and dried — not as black and white — as people often say.”

    Franklin explored those contradictions in a large, national survey taken in mid-September, when the Illinois Democratic senator's rival, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), led in many polls and the nation’s economic woes had not yet produced a deep crisis. The poll asked voters whether they agreed with the statement that “African-Americans often use race as an excuse to justify wrongdoing." About a fifth of white voters said they “strongly agreed.” Yet among those who agreed, 23 percent said they’d be supporting Obama.

    “This result is reasonable if you believe that race is not as monolithic an effect as we might easily assume,” Franklin said, noting that 22 percent of those who "strongly disagreed" said they'd be supporting McCain.

    Anecdotes from across the battlegrounds suggest that there’s a significant minority of prejudiced white voters who will swallow hard and vote for the black man.

    “I wouldn’t want a mixed marriage for my daughter, but I’m voting for Obama,” the wife of a retired Virginia coal miner, Sharon Fleming, told the Los Angeles Times recently.

    One Obama volunteer told Politico after canvassing the working-class white Philadelphia neighborhood of Fishtown recently, "I was blown away by the outright racism, but these folks are … undecided. They would call him a [racial epithet] and mention how they don't know what to do because of the economy.”

    The notion that there might be “racists for Obama,” as one Democrat called them, comes against the backdrop of a country whose white voters largely accept the notion of a black president.

    “The economy is trumping racism,” said Kurt Schmoke, the dean of Howard University Law School and a former Baltimore mayor. “A lot of people who we might think wouldn’t vote their pocketbook because of race — now they are.”

    “If you go to a white neighborhood in the suburbs and ask them, ‘How would you feel about a large black man kicking your door in,’ they would say, ‘That doesn’t sound good to me,’” said Democratic political consultant Paul Begala. “But if you say, 'Your house is on fire, and the firefighter happens to be black,' it’s a different situation.”

    “The house is on fire, and one guy seems like he’s calm and confident and in charge, and that’s the only option,” he said.

    That is, in less dramatic terms, more or less the campaign’s official talking point, a version of the longtime Democratic hope that class will — or at least should — matter more than race.

    “Voters are less interested in the hot button and are more interested in the cooling economy,” said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), an Obama ally who is as on-message as his father is off.

    But other, more nuanced, questions of race are also in play.
     
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    If this is true, this is perhaps the funniest thing I've seen in a long long time.

    The McCain Campaign is so fucked up that racists are willing to put aside their views and beliefs in exchange for actually choosing the better candidate despite the fact he goes against everything they believe in?

    :rofl:
     
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    Its actually pretty amazing. I've been hearing reports like this for a while.

    From fivethirtyeight.com

    The Politico article actually has some pretty interesting comments about racism and how its not, for lack of a better phrase, a black and white issue.
     
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    In my circles, there's the thought that a black president will show whites the truth about America: You no longer have power here. It's not your country anymore. And that will be ultimately positive for whites because they'll "wake up" to the reality, and maybe organize for action instead of cowering in the corner, afraid to be called "racist" for sticking up for whites.
     
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    Yeah, generally the racists they are talking about in the article aren't crazy KKK whackos like you. You wouldn't vote for someone who was black no matter how good they were, or how bad the white candidate was.
     
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    You're missing the point. It is that with Barack Obama as president, all of a sudden, David Duke looks less marginal, affirmative action looks more ridiculous, and Al Sharpton pretty much has to pack up and leave.

    Maybe he can move in with you, Larkinn!
     
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    There are a lot of racist Democrats that will find themselves forced to vote for Obama. It doesn't mean they'll like it, but you know how yellow-dog Democrats are.
     
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    I think everyone will, as William put it, "wake up." As William said, whites will realize that a lot of what black people say is garbage (such as blaming "whitey" for their problems), but blacks will also realize the same thing. In the end, Obama's race alone will benefit this country. Add his character, intelligence, and judgement onto that... It's just icing on the cake. ;)
     

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