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And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.Well, getting the Europeans to go back to Europe would have stopped the dispossession of the Christians and Muslims.
Of course the Palestinians were hostile, the Europeans were planning to dispossess them. Are you a frigging idiot.
The aggression was all European, they came from another place on another continent to take over.
No, they were aggressive before any of that, as I have proved several times. Local Arab were killing Jews before there was any hostility from Jews to Arabs. Sorry, but your propaganda doesn't phase me, I can see right through it.
There was hostility of Jews to Arabs from the moment they arrived from Europe. The Jews saw the Arabs as people they had to expel from the beginning of their arrival from Europe.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.Well, getting the Europeans to go back to Europe would have stopped the dispossession of the Christians and Muslims.
Of course the Palestinians were hostile, the Europeans were planning to dispossess them. Are you a frigging idiot.
The aggression was all European, they came from another place on another continent to take over.
No, they were aggressive before any of that, as I have proved several times. Local Arab were killing Jews before there was any hostility from Jews to Arabs. Sorry, but your propaganda doesn't phase me, I can see right through it.
There was hostility of Jews to Arabs from the moment they arrived from Europe. The Jews saw the Arabs as people they had to expel from the beginning of their arrival from Europe.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.Well, getting the Europeans to go back to Europe would have stopped the dispossession of the Christians and Muslims.
Of course the Palestinians were hostile, the Europeans were planning to dispossess them. Are you a frigging idiot.
The aggression was all European, they came from another place on another continent to take over.
No, they were aggressive before any of that, as I have proved several times. Local Arab were killing Jews before there was any hostility from Jews to Arabs. Sorry, but your propaganda doesn't phase me, I can see right through it.
There was hostility of Jews to Arabs from the moment they arrived from Europe. The Jews saw the Arabs as people they had to expel from the beginning of their arrival from Europe.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
There were many more Jews expelled from Arab countries.
Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries Jewish Virtual Library
Although much is heard about the plight of the Palestinian refugees from the aftermath of the 1948 Israeli War of Independence and the 1967 Six Day War, little is said about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were forced to flee from Arab states before and after the creation of Israel. In fact, these refugees were largely forgotten because they were assimilated into their new homes, most inIsrael, and neither the United Nations nor any other international agency took up their cause or demanded restitution for the property and money taken from them.
Yemenite Jews flee during Operation Magic Carpet
In 1945, roughly 1 million Jews lived peacefully in the various Arab states of the Middle East, many of them in communities that had existed for thousands of years. After the Arabs rejected the United Nations decision to partition Palestine and create a Jewish state, however, the Jews of the Arab lands became targets of their own governments’ anti-Zionist fervor. As Egypt’s delegate to the UN in 1947 chillingly told the General Assembly: “The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries will be jeopardized by partition.” The dire warning quickly became the brutal reality.
Throughout 1947 and 1948, Jews in Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Syria, and Yemen (Aden) were persecuted, their property and belongings were confiscated, and they were subjected to severe anti-Jewish riots instigated by the governments. In Iraq, Zionism was made a capital crime. In Syria, anti-Jewish pogroms erupted in Aleppo and the government froze all Jewish bank accounts. InEgypt, bombs were detonated in the Jewish quarter, killing dozens. In Algeria, anti-Jewish decrees were swiftly instituted and in Yemen, bloody pogroms led to the death of nearly 100 Jews.
In January 1948, the president of the World Jewish Congress, Dr. Stephen Wise, appealed to U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall: “Between 800,000 and a million Jews in the Middle East and North Africa, exclusive of Palestine, are in 'the greatest danger of destruction' at the hands of Moslems being incited to holy war over the Partition of Palestine ... Acts of violence already perpetrated, together with those contemplated, being clearly aimed at the total destruction of the Jews, constitute genocide, which under the resolutions of the General Assembly is a crime against humanity." In May 1948, the New York Times echoed Wise's appeal, and ran an article headlined, "Jews in Grave Danger in all Muslim Lands: Nine Hundred Thousand in Africa and Asia face wrath of their foes."
With their lives in danger and the situation growing ever more perilous, the Jews of the Arab World fled their homes as refugees.
Of the 820,000 Jewish refugees between 1948 and 1972, more than 200,000 found refuge in Europe and North America while 586,000 were resettled in Israel - at great expense to the Israeli government, and without any compensation from the Arab governments who had confiscated their possessions. The majority of the Jewish refugees left their homes penniless and destitute and with nothing more than the shirts on their backs. These Jews, however, had no desire to be repatriated in the Arab World and little is heard about them because they did not remain refugees for long.
In Israel, a newly independent country that was still facing existential threats to its survival, the influx of immigrants nearly doubled the population and a put a great strain on an economy struggling to just meet the needs of its existing population. The Jewish State, however, never considered turning away the refugees and, over the years, worked to absorb them into society.
Iraqi Jews flee as refugees to Israel
Overall, the number of Jews fleeing Arab countries for Israel in the years following Israel’s independence was nearly double the number of Arabs leaving Palestine. The contrast between the Jewish refugees and the Palestinian refugees grows even starker considering the difference in cultural and geographic dislocation - most of the Jewish refugees traveled hundreds or thousands of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language and lived with a vastly different culture. Most Palestinian refugees traveled but a few miles to the other side of the 1949 armistice lines while remaining inside a linguistically, culturally and ethnically similar society.
Moreover, the value of Jewish property left behind and confiscated by the Arab governments is estimated to be at least 50 percent higher than the total value of assets lost by the Palestinian refugees. In the 1950's, John Measham Berncastle, under the aegis of the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine, estimated that total assets lost by Palestinian refugees from 1948 - including land, buildings, movable property, and frozen bank accounts - amounted to roughly $350 million ($650 per refugee). Adding in an additional $100 million for assets lost by Palestinian refugees as a result of the Six Day War, an approximate total is $450 million - $4.4 billion in 2012 prices. By contrast, the value of assets lost by the Jewish refugees - compiled by a similar methodology - is estimated at $700 million - roughly $6.7 billion today.
To date, more than 100 UN resolutions have been passed referring explicitly to the fate of the Palestinian refugees. Not one has specifically addressed Jewish refugees. Additionally, the United Nations created a organization, UNRWA, to solely handle Palestinian refugees while all other refugees are handled collectively by UNHRC. The UN even defines Palestinian refugees differently than every other refugee population, setting distinctions that have allowed their numbers to grow exponentially so that nearly 5 million are now considered refugees despite the fact that the number estimated to have fled their homes is only approximately 400-700,000.
Today, nearly half of Israel's native population descends from the Jewish refugees of the Arab world and their rights must be recognized alongside any discussion of the rights for Palestinian refugees and their descendants. In Israel, the issue of the Jewish refugees has been of preeminent importance during all peace negotiations with the Palestinians, including the 1993 Oslo Accordsand the 2000 Camp David summit. Under the leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Deputy Foreign MinisterDanny Ayalon, Israel is now calling on United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon to hold a summit specifically the issue of the Jewish refugees.
In November 2014 the Israeli government dedicated November 30 of every year as a day to honor and remember the Jewish refugees who were expelled from Arab countries following 1948's Arab-Israeli War. The legislation to dedicate this day to Jewish refugees from Arab countries was introduced by Knesset members Shimon Ohayon of the Yisrael Beytenu party and Nissim Ze’ev of Shas. During an interview Ohayon stated that the aim of the legislation was to make sure that the younger generation is informed about this critical portion of Israeli history. The legislation also mandates an increase in coverage for these refugees in Israeli primary school curriculum. Ohayon claims that most young Israelis are "entirely ignorant" of this aspect of Jewish history. Israeli officials hope that this national recognition will spark international recognition of this issue, and the refugees and their descendants will finally be compensated for their hardships.
Sound like Hillary.There were many more Jews expelled from Arab countries.
Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries Jewish Virtual Library
Although much is heard about the plight of the Palestinian refugees from the aftermath of the 1948 Israeli War of Independence and the 1967 Six Day War, little is said about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were forced to flee from Arab states before and after the creation of Israel. In fact, these refugees were largely forgotten because they were assimilated into their new homes, most inIsrael, and neither the United Nations nor any other international agency took up their cause or demanded restitution for the property and money taken from them.
Yemenite Jews flee during Operation Magic Carpet
In 1945, roughly 1 million Jews lived peacefully in the various Arab states of the Middle East, many of them in communities that had existed for thousands of years. After the Arabs rejected the United Nations decision to partition Palestine and create a Jewish state, however, the Jews of the Arab lands became targets of their own governments’ anti-Zionist fervor. As Egypt’s delegate to the UN in 1947 chillingly told the General Assembly: “The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries will be jeopardized by partition.” The dire warning quickly became the brutal reality.
Throughout 1947 and 1948, Jews in Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Syria, and Yemen (Aden) were persecuted, their property and belongings were confiscated, and they were subjected to severe anti-Jewish riots instigated by the governments. In Iraq, Zionism was made a capital crime. In Syria, anti-Jewish pogroms erupted in Aleppo and the government froze all Jewish bank accounts. InEgypt, bombs were detonated in the Jewish quarter, killing dozens. In Algeria, anti-Jewish decrees were swiftly instituted and in Yemen, bloody pogroms led to the death of nearly 100 Jews.
In January 1948, the president of the World Jewish Congress, Dr. Stephen Wise, appealed to U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall: “Between 800,000 and a million Jews in the Middle East and North Africa, exclusive of Palestine, are in 'the greatest danger of destruction' at the hands of Moslems being incited to holy war over the Partition of Palestine ... Acts of violence already perpetrated, together with those contemplated, being clearly aimed at the total destruction of the Jews, constitute genocide, which under the resolutions of the General Assembly is a crime against humanity." In May 1948, the New York Times echoed Wise's appeal, and ran an article headlined, "Jews in Grave Danger in all Muslim Lands: Nine Hundred Thousand in Africa and Asia face wrath of their foes."
With their lives in danger and the situation growing ever more perilous, the Jews of the Arab World fled their homes as refugees.
Of the 820,000 Jewish refugees between 1948 and 1972, more than 200,000 found refuge in Europe and North America while 586,000 were resettled in Israel - at great expense to the Israeli government, and without any compensation from the Arab governments who had confiscated their possessions. The majority of the Jewish refugees left their homes penniless and destitute and with nothing more than the shirts on their backs. These Jews, however, had no desire to be repatriated in the Arab World and little is heard about them because they did not remain refugees for long.
In Israel, a newly independent country that was still facing existential threats to its survival, the influx of immigrants nearly doubled the population and a put a great strain on an economy struggling to just meet the needs of its existing population. The Jewish State, however, never considered turning away the refugees and, over the years, worked to absorb them into society.
Iraqi Jews flee as refugees to Israel
Overall, the number of Jews fleeing Arab countries for Israel in the years following Israel’s independence was nearly double the number of Arabs leaving Palestine. The contrast between the Jewish refugees and the Palestinian refugees grows even starker considering the difference in cultural and geographic dislocation - most of the Jewish refugees traveled hundreds or thousands of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language and lived with a vastly different culture. Most Palestinian refugees traveled but a few miles to the other side of the 1949 armistice lines while remaining inside a linguistically, culturally and ethnically similar society.
Moreover, the value of Jewish property left behind and confiscated by the Arab governments is estimated to be at least 50 percent higher than the total value of assets lost by the Palestinian refugees. In the 1950's, John Measham Berncastle, under the aegis of the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine, estimated that total assets lost by Palestinian refugees from 1948 - including land, buildings, movable property, and frozen bank accounts - amounted to roughly $350 million ($650 per refugee). Adding in an additional $100 million for assets lost by Palestinian refugees as a result of the Six Day War, an approximate total is $450 million - $4.4 billion in 2012 prices. By contrast, the value of assets lost by the Jewish refugees - compiled by a similar methodology - is estimated at $700 million - roughly $6.7 billion today.
To date, more than 100 UN resolutions have been passed referring explicitly to the fate of the Palestinian refugees. Not one has specifically addressed Jewish refugees. Additionally, the United Nations created a organization, UNRWA, to solely handle Palestinian refugees while all other refugees are handled collectively by UNHRC. The UN even defines Palestinian refugees differently than every other refugee population, setting distinctions that have allowed their numbers to grow exponentially so that nearly 5 million are now considered refugees despite the fact that the number estimated to have fled their homes is only approximately 400-700,000.
Today, nearly half of Israel's native population descends from the Jewish refugees of the Arab world and their rights must be recognized alongside any discussion of the rights for Palestinian refugees and their descendants. In Israel, the issue of the Jewish refugees has been of preeminent importance during all peace negotiations with the Palestinians, including the 1993 Oslo Accordsand the 2000 Camp David summit. Under the leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Deputy Foreign MinisterDanny Ayalon, Israel is now calling on United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon to hold a summit specifically the issue of the Jewish refugees.
In November 2014 the Israeli government dedicated November 30 of every year as a day to honor and remember the Jewish refugees who were expelled from Arab countries following 1948's Arab-Israeli War. The legislation to dedicate this day to Jewish refugees from Arab countries was introduced by Knesset members Shimon Ohayon of the Yisrael Beytenu party and Nissim Ze’ev of Shas. During an interview Ohayon stated that the aim of the legislation was to make sure that the younger generation is informed about this critical portion of Israeli history. The legislation also mandates an increase in coverage for these refugees in Israeli primary school curriculum. Ohayon claims that most young Israelis are "entirely ignorant" of this aspect of Jewish history. Israeli officials hope that this national recognition will spark international recognition of this issue, and the refugees and their descendants will finally be compensated for their hardships.
So what? The Palestinians had nothing to do with it. It didn't help the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.
There were many more Jews expelled from Arab countries.
Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries Jewish Virtual Library
Although much is heard about the plight of the Palestinian refugees from the aftermath of the 1948 Israeli War of Independence and the 1967 Six Day War, little is said about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were forced to flee from Arab states before and after the creation of Israel. In fact, these refugees were largely forgotten because they were assimilated into their new homes, most inIsrael, and neither the United Nations nor any other international agency took up their cause or demanded restitution for the property and money taken from them.
Yemenite Jews flee during Operation Magic Carpet
In 1945, roughly 1 million Jews lived peacefully in the various Arab states of the Middle East, many of them in communities that had existed for thousands of years. After the Arabs rejected the United Nations decision to partition Palestine and create a Jewish state, however, the Jews of the Arab lands became targets of their own governments’ anti-Zionist fervor. As Egypt’s delegate to the UN in 1947 chillingly told the General Assembly: “The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries will be jeopardized by partition.” The dire warning quickly became the brutal reality.
Throughout 1947 and 1948, Jews in Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Syria, and Yemen (Aden) were persecuted, their property and belongings were confiscated, and they were subjected to severe anti-Jewish riots instigated by the governments. In Iraq, Zionism was made a capital crime. In Syria, anti-Jewish pogroms erupted in Aleppo and the government froze all Jewish bank accounts. InEgypt, bombs were detonated in the Jewish quarter, killing dozens. In Algeria, anti-Jewish decrees were swiftly instituted and in Yemen, bloody pogroms led to the death of nearly 100 Jews.
In January 1948, the president of the World Jewish Congress, Dr. Stephen Wise, appealed to U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall: “Between 800,000 and a million Jews in the Middle East and North Africa, exclusive of Palestine, are in 'the greatest danger of destruction' at the hands of Moslems being incited to holy war over the Partition of Palestine ... Acts of violence already perpetrated, together with those contemplated, being clearly aimed at the total destruction of the Jews, constitute genocide, which under the resolutions of the General Assembly is a crime against humanity." In May 1948, the New York Times echoed Wise's appeal, and ran an article headlined, "Jews in Grave Danger in all Muslim Lands: Nine Hundred Thousand in Africa and Asia face wrath of their foes."
With their lives in danger and the situation growing ever more perilous, the Jews of the Arab World fled their homes as refugees.
Of the 820,000 Jewish refugees between 1948 and 1972, more than 200,000 found refuge in Europe and North America while 586,000 were resettled in Israel - at great expense to the Israeli government, and without any compensation from the Arab governments who had confiscated their possessions. The majority of the Jewish refugees left their homes penniless and destitute and with nothing more than the shirts on their backs. These Jews, however, had no desire to be repatriated in the Arab World and little is heard about them because they did not remain refugees for long.
In Israel, a newly independent country that was still facing existential threats to its survival, the influx of immigrants nearly doubled the population and a put a great strain on an economy struggling to just meet the needs of its existing population. The Jewish State, however, never considered turning away the refugees and, over the years, worked to absorb them into society.
Iraqi Jews flee as refugees to Israel
Overall, the number of Jews fleeing Arab countries for Israel in the years following Israel’s independence was nearly double the number of Arabs leaving Palestine. The contrast between the Jewish refugees and the Palestinian refugees grows even starker considering the difference in cultural and geographic dislocation - most of the Jewish refugees traveled hundreds or thousands of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language and lived with a vastly different culture. Most Palestinian refugees traveled but a few miles to the other side of the 1949 armistice lines while remaining inside a linguistically, culturally and ethnically similar society.
Moreover, the value of Jewish property left behind and confiscated by the Arab governments is estimated to be at least 50 percent higher than the total value of assets lost by the Palestinian refugees. In the 1950's, John Measham Berncastle, under the aegis of the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine, estimated that total assets lost by Palestinian refugees from 1948 - including land, buildings, movable property, and frozen bank accounts - amounted to roughly $350 million ($650 per refugee). Adding in an additional $100 million for assets lost by Palestinian refugees as a result of the Six Day War, an approximate total is $450 million - $4.4 billion in 2012 prices. By contrast, the value of assets lost by the Jewish refugees - compiled by a similar methodology - is estimated at $700 million - roughly $6.7 billion today.
To date, more than 100 UN resolutions have been passed referring explicitly to the fate of the Palestinian refugees. Not one has specifically addressed Jewish refugees. Additionally, the United Nations created a organization, UNRWA, to solely handle Palestinian refugees while all other refugees are handled collectively by UNHRC. The UN even defines Palestinian refugees differently than every other refugee population, setting distinctions that have allowed their numbers to grow exponentially so that nearly 5 million are now considered refugees despite the fact that the number estimated to have fled their homes is only approximately 400-700,000.
Today, nearly half of Israel's native population descends from the Jewish refugees of the Arab world and their rights must be recognized alongside any discussion of the rights for Palestinian refugees and their descendants. In Israel, the issue of the Jewish refugees has been of preeminent importance during all peace negotiations with the Palestinians, including the 1993 Oslo Accordsand the 2000 Camp David summit. Under the leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Deputy Foreign MinisterDanny Ayalon, Israel is now calling on United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon to hold a summit specifically the issue of the Jewish refugees.
In November 2014 the Israeli government dedicated November 30 of every year as a day to honor and remember the Jewish refugees who were expelled from Arab countries following 1948's Arab-Israeli War. The legislation to dedicate this day to Jewish refugees from Arab countries was introduced by Knesset members Shimon Ohayon of the Yisrael Beytenu party and Nissim Ze’ev of Shas. During an interview Ohayon stated that the aim of the legislation was to make sure that the younger generation is informed about this critical portion of Israeli history. The legislation also mandates an increase in coverage for these refugees in Israeli primary school curriculum. Ohayon claims that most young Israelis are "entirely ignorant" of this aspect of Jewish history. Israeli officials hope that this national recognition will spark international recognition of this issue, and the refugees and their descendants will finally be compensated for their hardships.
So what? The Palestinians had nothing to do with it. It didn't help the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.
And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.No, they were aggressive before any of that, as I have proved several times. Local Arab were killing Jews before there was any hostility from Jews to Arabs. Sorry, but your propaganda doesn't phase me, I can see right through it.
There was hostility of Jews to Arabs from the moment they arrived from Europe. The Jews saw the Arabs as people they had to expel from the beginning of their arrival from Europe.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.There was hostility of Jews to Arabs from the moment they arrived from Europe. The Jews saw the Arabs as people they had to expel from the beginning of their arrival from Europe.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
et al,
While "montelatici" is still worried bout something that happened more than a 100 years ago, let's talk about some more 21st Century-ish.
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The EU and the US seem to be confused and politically stuttering. There is a US Bill in Congress that is going to try and tie the new huge EU Trade Pact with the EU rejecting the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement. At the same time, the White House is considering sanctions against Israel (for what, I'm not sure). At the same time, the EU still considers the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) as a terrorist group and is challenging the ruling of earlier this year.
EU Still Considers Hamas a Terror Group, Bloc’s Envoy to Israel Says
JNS.org – European Union (EU) Ambassador to Israel Lars Faaborg ... “It’s important to point out that this has no immediate effect in terms of unfreezing the sanctions that we have against Hamas,” he said. “We have an asset freeze against ...
The Algemeiner · 12/17/2014
EU to Challenge Court Decision Striking Hamas Off Terror List
BRUSSELS—The European Union will challenge a ruling by the bloc’s second highest court striking Hamas off the region ... of legal reverses to its sanctions regime, not only in its terror listings but in its legal steps against a number of Iranian ...
Wall Street Journal · By Laurence Norman and Laurence.norman · 1/19/2015
It will be interesting to see how all this works out. But as HAMAS was an International Terrorist Organization during Operation Protective Edge, I wonder if that will have any effect on the ongoing investigation.
Most Respectfully,
R
My links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
My links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
What year was your attack?
Also, i never said there were no local Arabs. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your compulsive lying.
My links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
What year was your attack?
Also, i never said there were no local Arabs. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your compulsive lying.
I provided the link to the article that you decided was not valid because it referred to Ottoman legal briefs, documenting the complaints of Arabs to the Sultan. But, if you want to play this game
How about 614 AD.
"Jews everywhere were eager to aid and abet the Persian army. When they heard the news that Jewish soldiers had joined the Persian forces, they fully expected that a miracle would soon occur. The Jews of Antioch rioted and killed the Christian Patriarch. In Yemen the Jews also rioted and killed the Christian clergy."
"In return for joining the Persian army, these Jewish soldiers were given permission to participate in the capture of Jerusalem - which they did in 614."
"Antiochus Strategos also claimed that many Christians were captured and held for ransom. Jews offered to help them escape if they "become Jews and deny Christ". The Christian captives refused this offer. The Jews then purchased the Christians from the Persians and massacred them. He claimed that the total Christian death toll was 66,509."
A Forgotten Chapter Of Jewish History
Toasty you should give Roudy the same advice..steve..he needs itMy links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
What year was your attack?
Also, i never said there were no local Arabs. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your compulsive lying.
I provided the link to the article that you decided was not valid because it referred to Ottoman legal briefs, documenting the complaints of Arabs to the Sultan. But, if you want to play this game
How about 614 AD.
"Jews everywhere were eager to aid and abet the Persian army. When they heard the news that Jewish soldiers had joined the Persian forces, they fully expected that a miracle would soon occur. The Jews of Antioch rioted and killed the Christian Patriarch. In Yemen the Jews also rioted and killed the Christian clergy."
"In return for joining the Persian army, these Jewish soldiers were given permission to participate in the capture of Jerusalem - which they did in 614."
"Antiochus Strategos also claimed that many Christians were captured and held for ransom. Jews offered to help them escape if they "become Jews and deny Christ". The Christian captives refused this offer. The Jews then purchased the Christians from the Persians and massacred them. He claimed that the total Christian death toll was 66,509."
A Forgotten Chapter Of Jewish History
Haha nice try. First off,how many times have you and your pro Pali buddies said that the claim of the Jews (one of many claims) to Israel due to the fact that there was a Land of Israel thousands of years ago is not valid because of how long ago it was?
So nowyou are bringing up some attack that happened centuries ago? This attack has nothing to do with the current conflict. But wow are you getting desperate,,,
My links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
What year was your attack?
Also, i never said there were no local Arabs. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your compulsive lying.
I provided the link to the article that you decided was not valid because it referred to Ottoman legal briefs, documenting the complaints of Arabs to the Sultan. But, if you want to play this game
How about 614 AD.
"Jews everywhere were eager to aid and abet the Persian army. When they heard the news that Jewish soldiers had joined the Persian forces, they fully expected that a miracle would soon occur. The Jews of Antioch rioted and killed the Christian Patriarch. In Yemen the Jews also rioted and killed the Christian clergy."
"In return for joining the Persian army, these Jewish soldiers were given permission to participate in the capture of Jerusalem - which they did in 614."
"Antiochus Strategos also claimed that many Christians were captured and held for ransom. Jews offered to help them escape if they "become Jews and deny Christ". The Christian captives refused this offer. The Jews then purchased the Christians from the Persians and massacred them. He claimed that the total Christian death toll was 66,509."
A Forgotten Chapter Of Jewish History
Haha nice try. First off,how many times have you and your pro Pali buddies said that the claim of the Jews (one of many claims) to Israel due to the fact that there was a Land of Israel thousands of years ago is not valid because of how long ago it was?
So nowyou are bringing up some attack that happened centuries ago? This attack has nothing to do with the current conflict. But wow are you getting desperate,,,
My links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
What year was your attack?
Also, i never said there were no local Arabs. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your compulsive lying.
I provided the link to the article that you decided was not valid because it referred to Ottoman legal briefs, documenting the complaints of Arabs to the Sultan. But, if you want to play this game
How about 614 AD.
"Jews everywhere were eager to aid and abet the Persian army. When they heard the news that Jewish soldiers had joined the Persian forces, they fully expected that a miracle would soon occur. The Jews of Antioch rioted and killed the Christian Patriarch. In Yemen the Jews also rioted and killed the Christian clergy."
"In return for joining the Persian army, these Jewish soldiers were given permission to participate in the capture of Jerusalem - which they did in 614."
"Antiochus Strategos also claimed that many Christians were captured and held for ransom. Jews offered to help them escape if they "become Jews and deny Christ". The Christian captives refused this offer. The Jews then purchased the Christians from the Persians and massacred them. He claimed that the total Christian death toll was 66,509."
A Forgotten Chapter Of Jewish History
Haha nice try. First off,how many times have you and your pro Pali buddies said that the claim of the Jews (one of many claims) to Israel due to the fact that there was a Land of Israel thousands of years ago is not valid because of how long ago it was?
So nowyou are bringing up some attack that happened centuries ago? This attack has nothing to do with the current conflict. But wow are you getting desperate,,,
You are inserting a peasant revolt against the wealthy which also caused the death of wealthy Muslims and Christians as a pogrom against Jews that occurred more than a century ago. Can't I include the massacre of Palestinian Christians in the AD 600s.
The only fact that is undeniable is that the Zionist Jews came from Europe to colonize Palestine. Can you deny that?
My links show the first attack to be a 1834 you liar.I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
What year was your attack?
Also, i never said there were no local Arabs. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your compulsive lying.
I provided the link to the article that you decided was not valid because it referred to Ottoman legal briefs, documenting the complaints of Arabs to the Sultan. But, if you want to play this game
How about 614 AD.
"Jews everywhere were eager to aid and abet the Persian army. When they heard the news that Jewish soldiers had joined the Persian forces, they fully expected that a miracle would soon occur. The Jews of Antioch rioted and killed the Christian Patriarch. In Yemen the Jews also rioted and killed the Christian clergy."
"In return for joining the Persian army, these Jewish soldiers were given permission to participate in the capture of Jerusalem - which they did in 614."
"Antiochus Strategos also claimed that many Christians were captured and held for ransom. Jews offered to help them escape if they "become Jews and deny Christ". The Christian captives refused this offer. The Jews then purchased the Christians from the Persians and massacred them. He claimed that the total Christian death toll was 66,509."
A Forgotten Chapter Of Jewish History
Haha nice try. First off,how many times have you and your pro Pali buddies said that the claim of the Jews (one of many claims) to Israel due to the fact that there was a Land of Israel thousands of years ago is not valid because of how long ago it was?
So nowyou are bringing up some attack that happened centuries ago? This attack has nothing to do with the current conflict. But wow are you getting desperate,,,
You are inserting a peasant revolt against the wealthy which also caused the death of wealthy Muslims and Christians as a pogrom against Jews that occurred more than a century ago. Can't I include the massacre of Palestinian Christians in the AD 600s.
The only fact that is undeniable is that the Zionist Jews came from Europe to colonize Palestine. Can you deny that?
Doesn't matter, you are making excuses for every thing because you simply cannot handle the truth. The fact of the matter is that local Arabs were the first ones to start massacring, not Jews. This happened BEFORE any land was taken over.
You can keep trying Monti, but I will just refute your argument as I have done so many times.
And of course this so called "report" isn't in the article.Israel never tried to expel them. Before and during the 1948 war Israel told the arab villages that if they remained neutral they would be unmolested.
If they attacked then they were attacked back.
It's actually the arab countries that pushed them to leave.
Israel never wanted them to leave.
Zionist propaganda. The Jews were intent to expel the non-Jews from the beginning of the Zionist migration from Europe to Palestine as proven in the League of Nations documents linked earlier. This is just a fact.
As far as the events in 1948, Israelis themselves in IDF intelligence reports confirm that the non-Jews were evicted by the Jews or escaped in fear of their lives.
" a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."
The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
As I said if the villages remained neutral they weren't molested. However, it was the choice of the arabs to remain neutral and go on with their lives or to attack the Jews.
If they attacked Israelis then they were attacked back.
You are just repeating long debunked Zionist propaganda. The Arabs were attacked and were evicted according to a precise plan concocted at the beginning of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.
To complain that an article in Le Monde Diplomatique, a serious publication does not contain the "report" cited in a Benny Morris book when all you do is make things up, with no back up at all is hilarious.
As far as early Zionists having a precise plan long before 1948. Here are some gems by Zionism's most Arab friendly leader.
1898 Leo Motzkin
"One has to admit that the density of population does not exactly put the visitor to Palestine in a joyful mood. In large stretches of land, one constantly comes across big Arab villages, and it is a well-established fact that the most fertile regions of our land are occupied by Arabs."
1921 Leo Motzkin
"Our thought is that the colonisation of Palestine has to go in two directions: Jewish settlement in Eretz Israel and the resettlement of the Arabs of Eretz Israel outside the country. The transfer of so many Arabs may seem at first unacceptable economically, but is nonetheless practical. It does not require too much money to resettle a Palestinian village in another land."
Full text of A Historical Survey of Proposals to Transfer Arabs from Palestine 1895-1947
Then why can't you find any attacks showing Jews attacking Arabs that precede the ones that I posted showing local Arabs massacring Jews??
I have shown, many times, that the European Jews attacked the local Arabs first. That you don't accept Ottoman archive data is your problem.
At least you are finally coming around to agreeing that there were local Arabs.
