EPA kills more jobs and prosperity in Appalachia

[Mr. Shaman]

In this case, the EPA killed the jobs.

The greed of easier / larger profits is what brought about strip mining in the first place. Job reduction and more mechanization is what mining is all about.
It is a nice sounding term called efficiency in the business world. Or productivitity.

Well, there will be no mine now. Is that better?

You mean MORE-SAFE, for local-residents????

I'd say that a given (except to Bubbleheads).

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[Mr. Peepers]

I would love for a mining company executive to knock on my folks' door in southern appalachia. He would make a great gelding, I think.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....you mean.....

GOVERNMENT-REGULATIONS??!!!!!

Yeah, regulations written by the mining industry for the mining industry. Just like in all big industries.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

We don't need any farmable land or clean water, we just need 250 jobs!

I thought Republicans didn't want any government help.

The only thing the EPA wants, according to the right wing, it to stop Republicans from turning America into a "Wonderland" that looks like this:

Or is this how the right defines "prosperity"?

No doubt.....more free-stuff, for the undeserving (I think they call it).


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[shintao]

See, these ideologues don't care how much human misery results from the consequences of their actions.

The EPA needs to be defunded.

Ohh! I see the problem. The people who live near the mine should all move where the Legislators live, and the Legislators should all move their families next to the mine. That will save the states economy and make the Legislators and their families all mental deformed hero's of Virginia. It is the least they can do. They call it moving your ass where your mouth is.................

"Lawmakers from West Virginia said the EPA's move would hurt the state's economy."

 

[Mr. Shaman]

It's been hijacked by anti-energy, anti growth leftists.

Wanting clean air and water and unspoiled natural land in this country is hijacking??? Oh, you must be one of those corporatists that want to let businesses run roughshod over everyone else while chasing $$$. If anything, the EPA doesn't do enough.

I'm afraid Revere is devoutly married to Corporate America.

I'm thinkin' he's/she's more a devotee of that ol' Limbaugh-exercise: Bend-Over - Grab Ankles​

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Ohh! I see the problem. The people who live near the mine should all move where the Legislators live, and the Legislators should all move their families next to the mine. That will save the states economy and make the Legislators and their families all mental deformed hero's of Virginia. It is the least they can do. They call it moving your ass where your mouth is.................

"Lawmakers from West Virginia said the EPA's move would hurt the state's economy."

Perfect solution!!! I say that all of the CEO's of these corporations should have to live there too. It's only fair...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"Dingess-Rum Coal Company served notice to Dehue residents renting old coal company houses, giving them 30 days to move. Then they burned the houses down one by one, although some residents had not yet left. Dehue, like dozens of other mining towns, was once a busy center of activity with a grocery, post office, theater, barbershop, pool hall, school payroll office, and Civic Club. These communities become ghost towns and over time are dismantled. Day lilies and fruit trees often mark the spot of leveled homes lining a road. Dehue was located off Route 10 on Rum Creek south of Logan. It began in 1916 as a coal mine company town owned by Youngstown Mines Corporation. It existed as late as the 1970s, but the homes were never sold to private residents. Houses were cleared and burned in 2000 and 2001."

Don't you just LOVE those coal companies? Yeah, they need government protection

....Just like The Good Ol' Days!!!!!​

"On a sultry August morning in 1921, some 15,000 coal miners converged at the foot of the steep, brambly slopes of West Virginia's Blair Mountain. On a high ridge above, coal industry forces, private detectives, and state police officers peered out from fortified positions, training Thompson submachine guns and high-powered rifles on the men below.

After years of violent confrontations with mine operators in West Virginia coalfields, the miners were marching to Mingo County, West Virginia, to free miners imprisoned by state authorities and unionize workers who lived in dire poverty in company towns. But the 1,952-foot-tall (595-meter-tall) Blair Mountain stood in the marchers' path. So the miners—armed with machine guns and other weapons, and wearing red bandannas around their necks—started up the slopes."

 

[daveman]

We don't need any farmable land or clean water, we just need 250 jobs!

I thought Republicans didn't want any government help.

The only thing the EPA wants, according to the right wing, it to stop Republicans from turning America into a "Wonderland" that looks like this:

Or is this how the right defines "prosperity"?

That's how I define the leftist paradise of China, you moron.

 

[daveman]

I would love for a mining company executive to knock on my folks' door in southern appalachia. He would make a great gelding, I think.

Oh, look: Some of that violent, hateful rhetoric the left says doesn't exist.

 

[daveman]

How many of you applauding this decision will be bitching because the utility company raised your electric rates?

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Oh, look: Some of that violent, hateful rhetoric the left says doesn't exist.

Dude, that is not rhetoric... that's the plain truth. My family has been on that land since 1832, and if a corporation tried that shit there, well, it wouldn't be pretty.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I grew up in eastern KY, within 1 mile of a strip mine. Which moved in when I was about 10.
I have seen the creek look like black goo, not water, etc.

I KNOW! What do you know about it?

In another life.......... I was a crew leader on the NorFuckinWestward railroad.
I saw the poverty, toothless, flag waving, morons, voting against their own best interests, in full force.
"Come here. Cancer. $8 an hour."
Gawd Blast murka an Kaptalizm.
Care to guess how they voted ?
murkinz.

Ohh yes there are plenty like Revere in Applachia.
Many of them belong to the church of Palintology.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

How many of you applauding this decision will be bitching because the utility company raised your electric rates?

I'd rather pay thirty cents more and keep the mountains intact, thanks. I applaud loudly. Get some damn solar panels if you're that concerned about the "price".

 

[Mr. Peepers]

That's how I define the leftist paradise of China, you moron.

So you want the US to look like this scene in China? Why? They have lax regulations on pollution and look what it gets them. This out to be good....

 

[Sheldon]

How many of you applauding this decision will be bitching because the utility company raised your electric rates?

I'd rather pay thirty cents more and keep the mountains intact, thanks. I applaud loudly. Get some damn solar panels if you're that concerned about the "price".

Same. It would be a cost that's worth it imo, even though I don't live anywhere near that area.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

In another life.......... I was a crew leader on the NorFuckinWestward railroad.
I saw the poverty, toothless, flag waving, morons, voting against their own best interests, in full force.
"Come here. Cancer. $8 an hour."
Gawd Blast murka an Kaptalizm.
Care to guess how they voted ?
murkinz.

Ohh yes there are plenty like Revere in Applachia.
Many of them belong to the church of Palintology.

Question: what do you call someone who believes Jesus shot triceratops from his helicopter?

Answer: A Palintologist.

Answer II: A Capitali$t!!​

Jesus Rode a Dino$aur​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....you mean.....

GOVERNMENT-REGULATIONS??!!!!!

Yeah, regulations written by the mining industry for the mining industry. Just like in all big industries.

Obviously, not.....now!!

See: Arch Coal Inc.

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[HUGGY]

See, these ideologues don't care how much human misery results from the consequences of their actions.

The EPA needs to be defunded.

UPDATE 1-US axes permit for Arch's giant mountain coalmine | Reuters

WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - The Obama administration
revoked a permit on Thursday for Arch Coal Inc's (ACI.N)
proposed Spruce 1 mountaintop coal mine in West Virginia,
effectively shutting one of the biggest in the United States. "The proposed Spruce No. 1 Mine would use destructive and
unsustainable mining practices that jeopardize the health of
Appalachian communities and clean water on which they depend,"
said Peter Silvan, an assistant administrator for water, at the
Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA's final ruling under the Clean Water Act came after
a scientific study, a public hearing, and a review of more than
50,000 public comments, the agency said. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers had approved a permit for
the mine in 2007, but it had not been fully constructed.
[ID:nN15219373]. Lawmakers from West Virginia said the EPA's move would hurt
the state's economy. "Today's EPA decision is not just fundamentally wrong, it
is an unprecedented act by the federal government that will
cost our state and our nation even more jobs during the worst
recession in this country's history," Senator Joe Manchin, a
Democrat, said in a release. Senator Jay Rockefeller, also a Democrat, wrote a letter to
President Barack Obama, that said: "as a nation we must not
fall into the trap of forcing unnecessary choices between
protecting the environment and having good paying jobs that
support energy independence." St. Louis-based Arch said it would vigorously defend the
permit in court. EPA's revocation of the permit blocks an
additional $250 million in investment and 250 jobs, the company
said.

Oh..Ya...like the misery of going to coal miners funerals?

 

[skookerasbil]

See, these ideologues don't care how much human misery results from the consequences of their actions.

The EPA needs to be defunded.

UPDATE 1-US axes permit for Arch's giant mountain coalmine | Reuters

WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - The Obama administration
revoked a permit on Thursday for Arch Coal Inc's (ACI.N)
proposed Spruce 1 mountaintop coal mine in West Virginia,
effectively shutting one of the biggest in the United States. "The proposed Spruce No. 1 Mine would use destructive and
unsustainable mining practices that jeopardize the health of
Appalachian communities and clean water on which they depend,"
said Peter Silvan, an assistant administrator for water, at the
Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA's final ruling under the Clean Water Act came after
a scientific study, a public hearing, and a review of more than
50,000 public comments, the agency said. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers had approved a permit for
the mine in 2007, but it had not been fully constructed.
[ID:nN15219373]. Lawmakers from West Virginia said the EPA's move would hurt
the state's economy. "Today's EPA decision is not just fundamentally wrong, it
is an unprecedented act by the federal government that will
cost our state and our nation even more jobs during the worst
recession in this country's history," Senator Joe Manchin, a
Democrat, said in a release. Senator Jay Rockefeller, also a Democrat, wrote a letter to
President Barack Obama, that said: "as a nation we must not
fall into the trap of forcing unnecessary choices between
protecting the environment and having good paying jobs that
support energy independence." St. Louis-based Arch said it would vigorously defend the
permit in court. EPA's revocation of the permit blocks an
additional $250 million in investment and 250 jobs, the company
said.

The EPA........what a joke. And most Americans have no idea how much the mere existence of that agency costs them with mostly stupid ass regulations that costs jobs and tax revenue.

Defund that shit.............