Email: IRS, Treasury Dept Secretly Drafted Rules To Restrict Conservative Groups...

[paulitician]

What did the President know? Did he order it?


The Obama administration’s Treasury Department and former IRS official Lois Lerner conspired to draft new 501(c)(4) regulations to restrict the activity of conservative groups in a way that would not be disclosed publicly, according to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

The Treasury Department and Lerner started devising the new rules “off-plan,” meaning that their plans would not be published on the public schedule. They planned the new rules in 2012, while the IRS targeting of conservative groups was in full swing, and not after the scandal broke in order to clarify regulations as the administration has suggested.

The rules place would place much more stringent controls on what would be considered political activity by the IRS, effectively limiting the standard practices of a wide array of non-profit groups.

“Don’t know who in your organizations is keeping tabs on c4s, but since we mentioned potentially addressing them (off -plan) in 2013, I’ve got my radar up and this seemed interesting…,” Treasury official Ruth Madrigal wrote in a June 14, 2012 email to Lerner and others obtained by Ways and Means.

Ways and Means chairman Rep. Dave Camp blasted the off-the-record plan during a hearing Wednesday with IRS commissioner John Koskinen, and called for the administration’s newly proposed 501(c)(4) rules to be halted until criminal investigations into the IRS targeting scandal are complete.

“If Treasury and the IRS fabricated the rationale for a rule change it would tend to raise questions about the integrity of the rule-making process,” Camp said...

Read more: Email: IRS, Treasury drafted rules to restrict nonprofits | The Daily Caller
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[william the wie]

Chicago machine politicians being so crooked they make pretzels look like plumblines, say it ain't so!

 

[Bombur]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

 

[Stephanie]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

well ok then, let them just run over "we the people" in this country no questions asked

then we can start bowing to them next and wail, all hail the government

 

[william the wie]

The house should censure the president because that would make any pardons of co-conspirators a nullity.

 

[Bombur]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

well ok then, let them just run over "we the people" in this country no questions asked

then we can start bowing to them next and wail, all hail the government

 

[LeftofLeft]

The IRS is not a weapon to be used against political enemies. Nixon did it. Clinton did it. It's got to stop.

 

[Clementine]

Of course, the administration still isn't willing to talk about it or answer more questions. They'll just throw the race card and run, as always.

 

[HenryBHough]

This president?

Know ANYTHING?

About ANYTHING?

When honesty dictated his change of last name shoulda been to "Schultz"?

 

[tinydancer]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

Seriously, what part of making up new rules so that they could target conservative groups secretly don't you get?

From the OP.....

"The Obama administration’s Treasury Department and former IRS official Lois Lerner conspired to draft new 501(c)(4) regulations to restrict the activity of conservative groups in a way that would not be disclosed publicly

 

[JoeB131]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

well ok then, let them just run over "we the people" in this country no questions asked

then we can start bowing to them next and wail, all hail the government

Or how about, you don't try to abuse the tax code.

The primary cause of the IRS action was TEABAGGERS trying to disguise political advocacy groups as social welfare agencies so they could hide that big bag of money from the Koch Brothers.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Can't wait until we win the Presidency back and use this against Soros and all Progressive political advocacy groups like Media Matters, etc

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What did the President know? Did he order it?


The Obama administration’s Treasury Department and former IRS official Lois Lerner conspired to draft new 501(c)(4) regulations to restrict the activity of conservative groups in a way that would not be disclosed publicly, according to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

The Treasury Department and Lerner started devising the new rules “off-plan,” meaning that their plans would not be published on the public schedule. They planned the new rules in 2012, while the IRS targeting of conservative groups was in full swing, and not after the scandal broke in order to clarify regulations as the administration has suggested.

The rules place would place much more stringent controls on what would be considered political activity by the IRS, effectively limiting the standard practices of a wide array of non-profit groups.

“Don’t know who in your organizations is keeping tabs on c4s, but since we mentioned potentially addressing them (off -plan) in 2013, I’ve got my radar up and this seemed interesting…,” Treasury official Ruth Madrigal wrote in a June 14, 2012 email to Lerner and others obtained by Ways and Means.

Ways and Means chairman Rep. Dave Camp blasted the off-the-record plan during a hearing Wednesday with IRS commissioner John Koskinen, and called for the administration’s newly proposed 501(c)(4) rules to be halted until criminal investigations into the IRS targeting scandal are complete.

“If Treasury and the IRS fabricated the rationale for a rule change it would tend to raise questions about the integrity of the rule-making process,” Camp said...

Read more: Email: IRS, Treasury drafted rules to restrict nonprofits | The Daily Caller
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"I only found out that the IRS was part of the federal government when I read it in this morning newspaper" -- Obama's excuse

 

[JoeB131]

Can't wait until we win the Presidency back and use this against Soros and all Progressive political advocacy groups like Media Matters, etc

Well, you can dream and all...

But there aren't enough old racist white guys for that to ever happen.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Can't wait until we win the Presidency back and use this against Soros and all Progressive political advocacy groups like Media Matters, etc

Well, you can dream and all...

But there aren't enough old racist white guys for that to ever happen.

First thing voter ID, then the IRS audits

 

[Bombur]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

Seriously, what part of making up new rules so that they could target conservative groups secretly don't you get?

From the OP.....

"The Obama administration’s Treasury Department and former IRS official Lois Lerner conspired to draft new 501(c)(4) regulations to restrict the activity of conservative groups in a way that would not be disclosed publicly

I am sorry I forgot some people can't smell BS. The rules being talked about are not illegal. They are attempts to enforce the law. This particular part of the law was being abused and there was reason to ensure enforcement.

The evidence being presented is that people just talked. There is no rule. Just e-mails.

 

[william the wie]

Damn, even Hitler used less flimsy excuses than the Obama administration has. Is he trying to convince the world that while R may stand for Retarded D stands for Dumber than Dog squat?

 

[JoeB131]

Can't wait until we win the Presidency back and use this against Soros and all Progressive political advocacy groups like Media Matters, etc

Well, you can dream and all...

But there aren't enough old racist white guys for that to ever happen.

First thing voter ID, then the IRS audits

Yeah, because making it harder for black folks to vote is really the ticket.

Hey, dumbass, maybe instead of trying to keep black folks from voting, give them a good reason to vote for you....

Oh, no, that's too complicated.

You guys lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes. And you'd have probably have lost in 2004 if you hadn't stolen 2000.

 

[J.E.D]

Email: IRS, Treasury Dept Secretly Drafted Rules To Restrict Conservative Groups...

“Don’t know who in your organizations is keeping tabs on c4s, but since we mentioned potentially addressing them (off -plan) in 2013, I’ve got my radar up and this seemed interesting…,” Treasury official Ruth Madrigal wrote in a June 14, 2012 email to Lerner and others obtained by Ways and Means.

Where in that email does it mention conservative groups?

 

[J.E.D]

So they considered making more stringent rules.

/OUTRAGE

Seriously, what part of making up new rules so that they could target conservative groups secretly don't you get?

From the OP.....

"The Obama administration’s Treasury Department and former IRS official Lois Lerner conspired to draft new 501(c)(4) regulations to restrict the activity of conservative groups in a way that would not be disclosed publicly

The part that you singled out is not from the email, but are the words of the author of the article.

Here is the only part of the email quoted in the op:

“Don’t know who in your organizations is keeping tabs on c4s, but since we mentioned potentially addressing them (off -plan) in 2013, I’ve got my radar up and this seemed interesting…,” Treasury official Ruth Madrigal wrote in a June 14, 2012 email to Lerner and others obtained by Ways and Means.

Where does it mention conservative groups?