Elizabeth Warren- NO MASS LAW LICENSE

[jillian]

Elizabeth Warren didn't "file" any "briefs" in the case, though. Having her name mentioned on the letterhead is not the same as "filing a brief".

Warren filed a Brief for the Official Creditors Committee and filed a Brief (available Westlaw at 2002 WL 1379031 )

oops

why oops?

and why do you keep pretending she did anything wrong?

i'm also not finding the brief that is being discussed at the WL cite given.

so i'll figure it's nonsense.

just saying.

 

[jillian]

I'm honestly impressed by the number of republicans championing a moderate like Scott Brown.

Looks like the latest poll has Warren up by 2, but it's clearly a close race

What's not to like? He's a good man who's devoted his life to public service. She's an opportunist pretender with a lying problem. There is simply no comparison. He's the better candidate.

he's not a bad guy. i wish they could both represent massachusetts.

she's a brilliant woman who works her butt off for real working people...

perhaps if you take off your partisan blinders?

 

[jillian]

Where has she been practicing law?

THIS.

You are able to charge fees to mediate as long as it is known you have no standing within the court system. You CAN take advisory roles sans a license, just not under the guise that you do have one.

Filing papers for a client is practicing law. If she engaged in doing that, she practiced law without a license.

she's allowed to file papers before she US Supreme Court if she's admitted to practice there....regardless of where else she's admitted ... or not.

 

[Conservative]

she's a brilliant woman who works her butt off for real working people...

perhaps if you take off your partisan blinders?

Like Travellers? Like LTV Steel?

Which 'working people' did those cases help?

 

[Polk]

If she worked for a law firm, as a lawyer, without a license in that state, isn't that, you know... ILLEGAL????

No. It would only be a violation if she were handling cases directly. She's free to consult with admitted counsel even in absence of license.

 

[Polk]

The general counsel for the Massachusetts bar has also said she's not in violation:

Michael Fredrickson, general counsel for the BBO [Board of Bar Overseers], says he does not believe a law professor would be considered to have “a continuous presence” or “an office practicing law.”

“If they actually practice here – as some part-time law professors at some of the smaller schools do – they might,” Fredrickson says. “But being a professor at one of the large schools, their office is a professor’s office, and the fact that they tend to dabble in the practice of law doesn’t run afoul of our rule. I don’t think Elizabeth Warren would fall within that, such that she would have to register here.”

An Update on the Elizabeth Warren Law License Controversy « Above the Law: A Legal Web Site

 

[Ravi]

The general counsel for the Massachusetts bar has also said she's not in violation:

Michael Fredrickson, general counsel for the BBO [Board of Bar Overseers], says he does not believe a law professor would be considered to have “a continuous presence” or “an office practicing law.”

“If they actually practice here – as some part-time law professors at some of the smaller schools do – they might,” Fredrickson says. “But being a professor at one of the large schools, their office is a professor’s office, and the fact that they tend to dabble in the practice of law doesn’t run afoul of our rule. I don’t think Elizabeth Warren would fall within that, such that she would have to register here.”

An Update on the Elizabeth Warren Law License Controversy « Above the Law: A Legal Web Site

And according to Scott Brown she can't be a Cherokee because she doesn't look like one.

 

[del]

The general counsel for the Massachusetts bar has also said she's not in violation:

Michael Fredrickson, general counsel for the BBO [Board of Bar Overseers], says he does not believe a law professor would be considered to have “a continuous presence” or “an office practicing law.”

“If they actually practice here – as some part-time law professors at some of the smaller schools do – they might,” Fredrickson says. “But being a professor at one of the large schools, their office is a professor’s office, and the fact that they tend to dabble in the practice of law doesn’t run afoul of our rule. I don’t think Elizabeth Warren would fall within that, such that she would have to register here.”

An Update on the Elizabeth Warren Law License Controversy « Above the Law: A Legal Web Site

And according to Scott Brown she can't be a Cherokee because she doesn't look like one.

and according to her, she is a cherokee because her momma told her so.

my mom told be i was one of the electors of the holy roman empire, but nobody in saxe-coburg has sent me a pfennig of tribute.

fucking peasants

 

[Ravi]

The general counsel for the Massachusetts bar has also said she's not in violation:

And according to Scott Brown she can't be a Cherokee because she doesn't look like one.

and according to her, she is a cherokee because her momma told her so.

my mom told be i was one of the electors of the holy roman empire, but nobody in saxe-coburg has sent me a pfennig of tribute.

fucking peasants

Funny, but I don't really see the comparison. Not that I really care about an election in some podunk state.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Really scraping the bottom of the barrel on this one.

That is, UNLESS we have a whole board just chocked full of unbiased authorities and/or experts on the practice of law from state to state to state to ................

 

[del]

And according to Scott Brown she can't be a Cherokee because she doesn't look like one.

and according to her, she is a cherokee because her momma told her so.

my mom told be i was one of the electors of the holy roman empire, but nobody in saxe-coburg has sent me a pfennig of tribute.

fucking peasants

Funny, but I don't really see the comparison. Not that I really care about an election in some podunk state.

her whole answer to anyone questioning her about the issue is essentially *my mom told me so, stop picking on me*

i don't care about the law license, but i'd prefer not to vote for another liar who thinks i'm too stupid to notice.

at least we're not new hampshire.

 

[Wry Catcher]

an amicus brief is a brief filed by someone not directly party to the case in question. The briefs she filed were for the Official Creditors Committee... direct parties to the case.

you FAIL.

Correct, I was responding to your "oops" and the post to which you posted "oops". Professor Warren holds a J. D. and has been a professor of law. This thread, posted by a right wing liar, infers differently.

The problem with 'conservatives' is they are dishonest to the core. Why? Simple, they hold to an ideology which locked Galileo in the tower, denied physicians to autopsy human remains, consider fluoride a communist plot and believed if Vietnam fell the world would fall to Communism.

In short, conservatives are scared of change, believe the ends justify the means and of late that might makes right.

What are you smoking?

My 'oops' post, and the post it was in response to, had NOTHING to do with what you just whined about.

My 'oops' was specifically in reference to the briefs she filed, nothing more.

You got smoked on the difference between 'brief' and 'amicus brief', and now you're claiming victory by moving the goalposts?

Pathetic hack.

Post the brief asshole! Provide evidence your attack on Professor Warren has merit.

Now, cut and run like all the other 'conservative assholes' are want to do.

 

[Wry Catcher]

and according to her, she is a cherokee because her momma told her so.

my mom told be i was one of the electors of the holy roman empire, but nobody in saxe-coburg has sent me a pfennig of tribute.

fucking peasants

Funny, but I don't really see the comparison. Not that I really care about an election in some podunk state.

her whole answer to anyone questioning her about the issue is essentially *my mom told me so, stop picking on me*

i don't care about the law license, but i'd prefer not to vote for another liar who thinks i'm too stupid to notice.

at least we're not new hampshire.

IMO family history is generally oral. Unless someone takes the time to research family history - and it does take time and good eyesight - most people believe their parents. This entire effort attacking Professor Warren on her ancestry smacks of 'birtherism' and stinks.

 

[Zander]

Poor Elizabeth Warren. Her parents told her she was a Cherokee...boo hoo. It wasn't her fault! She didn't question her parents!!...you mean conservatives, moderates, and independents!!! .She never used her "native american" status for any personal gain, well, outside of getting her job, career, tenure, cash, Senate campaign, and ownership stake in an Indian casino......other than that though, there really was no personal gain....

Just kidding, she doesn't own an Indian casino, at least not that we know about.....

This dishonest crackpot needs to go back to the Ivory towers of Haaaavaad...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Poor Elizabeth Warren. Her parents told her she was a Cherokee...boo hoo. It wasn't her fault! She didn't question her parents!!...you mean conservatives, moderates, and independents!!! .She never used her "native american" status for any personal gain, well, outside of getting her job, career, tenure, cash, Senate campaign, and ownership stake in an Indian casino......other than that though, there really was no personal gain....

Just kidding, she doesn't own an Indian casino, at least not that we know about.....

this crackpot needs to go back to the Ivory towers of Haaaavaad...

You're a liar and morally corrupt.

 

[del]

Funny, but I don't really see the comparison. Not that I really care about an election in some podunk state.

her whole answer to anyone questioning her about the issue is essentially *my mom told me so, stop picking on me*

i don't care about the law license, but i'd prefer not to vote for another liar who thinks i'm too stupid to notice.

at least we're not new hampshire.

IMO family history is generally oral. Unless someone takes the time to research family history - and it does take time and good eyesight - most people believe their parents. This entire effort attacking Professor Warren on her ancestry smacks of 'birtherism' and stinks.

you are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but i think her behavior since this came out speaks to her character, or more accurately, her lack of character.


she was heralded as a minority hire by harvard, but then claims she got the job on her merit.

i invite you to look at the cv of everyone else on the law school faculty and see how many of them have her academic background.

then ask yourself why she received her appointment

i think she's dishonest.

honest injun

 

[Conservative]

Correct, I was responding to your "oops" and the post to which you posted "oops". Professor Warren holds a J. D. and has been a professor of law. This thread, posted by a right wing liar, infers differently.

The problem with 'conservatives' is they are dishonest to the core. Why? Simple, they hold to an ideology which locked Galileo in the tower, denied physicians to autopsy human remains, consider fluoride a communist plot and believed if Vietnam fell the world would fall to Communism.

In short, conservatives are scared of change, believe the ends justify the means and of late that might makes right.

What are you smoking?

My 'oops' post, and the post it was in response to, had NOTHING to do with what you just whined about.

My 'oops' was specifically in reference to the briefs she filed, nothing more.

You got smoked on the difference between 'brief' and 'amicus brief', and now you're claiming victory by moving the goalposts?

Pathetic hack.

Post the brief asshole! Provide evidence your attack on Professor Warren has merit.

Now, cut and run like all the other 'conservative assholes' are want to do.

moving the goalposts back again I see. I am going by the posted information. Post 75 tells you where to get it.

If you have something that proves the posted information inaccurate, produce it, dumb ass.

Similarly, in 2002 in FCC v. Nextwave Communications, Warren filed a Brief for the Official Creditors Committee and filed a Brief (available Westlaw at 2002 WL 1379031 ) along with her Harvard Law School colleagues Laurence Tribe and Charles Fried (each of whom is licensed in Massachusetts) using her Cambridge address:

 

[Wry Catcher]

her whole answer to anyone questioning her about the issue is essentially *my mom told me so, stop picking on me*

i don't care about the law license, but i'd prefer not to vote for another liar who thinks i'm too stupid to notice.

at least we're not new hampshire.

IMO family history is generally oral. Unless someone takes the time to research family history - and it does take time and good eyesight - most people believe their parents. This entire effort attacking Professor Warren on her ancestry smacks of 'birtherism' and stinks.

you are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but i think her behavior since this came out speaks to her character, or more accurately, her lack of character.

I too respect your opinion, but stand by my assessment. If in fact she believed the family history she was feed, the issue is not one of character.


she was heralded as a minority hire by harvard, but then claims she got the job on her merit.

I spend a part of my career interviewing and recommending the hire of persons who, many times, didn't have the CV credentials of those I past over. Age, sex, gender, ethnicity, and academcic success had little to do with the decisions I made. Those who made the cut for the final interview were all qualified, how they handled a personal interview was most telling.

i invite you to look at the cv of everyone else on the law school faculty and see how many of them have her academic background.

then ask yourself why she received her appointment

i think she's dishonest.

honest injun

Without evidence what you think is what you think. Having hired and fired I know that mistakes are made which is why new hires are regularly evaluated (and are generally on probation). If she was not qualified, and was hired do to her ethnic background, a university which continued her employment would not maintain the status which Harvard has had for decades (centuries).

She's smart, well spoken, understands the issues and is a human being. Human beings make mistakes. If she lied on a resume she is not the first to do so; if as a candidate she embellished on her background, that too is not astonishing.

 

[Wry Catcher]

What are you smoking?

My 'oops' post, and the post it was in response to, had NOTHING to do with what you just whined about.

My 'oops' was specifically in reference to the briefs she filed, nothing more.

You got smoked on the difference between 'brief' and 'amicus brief', and now you're claiming victory by moving the goalposts?

Pathetic hack.

Post the brief asshole! Provide evidence your attack on Professor Warren has merit.

Now, cut and run like all the other 'conservative assholes' are want to do.

moving the goalposts back again I see. I am going by the posted information. Post 75 tells you where to get it.

If you have something that proves the posted information inaccurate, produce it, dumb ass.

Similarly, in 2002 in FCC v. Nextwave Communications, Warren filed a Brief for the Official Creditors Committee and filed a Brief (available Westlaw at 2002 WL 1379031 ) along with her Harvard Law School colleagues Laurence Tribe and Charles Fried (each of whom is licensed in Massachusetts) using her Cambridge address:

Post 75 says nothing and links to nothing. If you have a copy of the brief post it!

 

[Lakhota]

Right-Wing Bloggers' "Law License" Attack On Elizabeth Warren Falls Flat

Right-wing bloggers have echoed an accusation that Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, allegedly practiced law without a license. But the charge was dismissed by the general counsel of the agency responsible for enforcing Massachusetts bar rules, who said that Warren's activities are not a violation of those rules.

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