Electric Vehicle sales are sucking!!!

[Old Rocks]

Go to a machine shop, and ask what it will cost to build one V-8 engine. The ask an industrialist to build a factory to produce 100,000 engines, and see what that will cost. Now ask that same industrialist to build 50,000,000 engines. The EV's are currently at the 100,000 scale. With that factor in Reno, Musk is trying to jump start the industry to the million scale. The batteries are going to come down significantly in price.

I get that Ray, but if you look at total sales of gas powered vehicles vs hybrid and EV's......only account for 3.6% total ( and thats a reduction from last year ) in the market.

WHen it gets to 15%-20%, its made a real dent............but right now, sales are dropping. Most people are not moved by the prospect of owning an EV.

And that percentage was what 5 years ago?

 

[HenryBHough]

Used to be that you had to rebuild the engine in a conventional car about that often. The batteries will continue to increase in both longevity and energy density.

It wasn't mere time that word out engines. It was use over tens or hundreds of thousands of miles. Less, of course, with neglect.

But you're right. Batteries will continue to increase in both longevity and energy density just as pigs will ultimately grow wings and fly. It's just a matter of time.

 

[Old Rocks]

Israel s Phinergy Tests 1 100-Mile Range Electric Car Aluminum-Air Battery System VIDEO Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

Israeli start-up Phinergy Ltd. is road testing a 1,100-mile range electric car based on a hybrid lithium-ion and aluminum-air battery system based on technology originating at Bar Ilan University and produced in Canada in collaboration with Alcoa Canada, Israel’s Globesbusiness daily reported on Tuesday.

Yessiree bob, them thar silly boxes that people put on their desks and call a computer are just a silly toy and passing fad, yessirree bob...................................

 

[skookerasbil]

sales still sucking.............

 

[jc456]

Go to a machine shop, and ask what it will cost to build one V-8 engine. The ask an industrialist to build a factory to produce 100,000 engines, and see what that will cost. Now ask that same industrialist to build 50,000,000 engines. The EV's are currently at the 100,000 scale. With that factor in Reno, Musk is trying to jump start the industry to the million scale. The batteries are going to come down significantly in price.

So, if sales are down, where does the money come from to continue to grow? That doesn't seem to follow basic business practice. Need revenues to build the extended plants or continue research. IMO, that is going to be the issue here. If EVs are not purchased, then the revenues are not and then there are no paychecks to cut for the employees of those factories, and then the spiral fail develops.

 

[HenryBHough]

And not just in America.

Sales suck so bad that the dust has been bitten by another "star".....

Why the Vauxhall Ampera got it so right and yet so wrong Autocar

 

[ShackledNation]

Meanwhile, the first new U.S. start-up car company in the United States sells exclusively electric vehicles and is paving the way for mass production of EVs to lower-end consumers.

 

[jc456]

Meanwhile, the first new U.S. start-up car company in the United States sells exclusively electric vehicles and is paving the way for mass production of EVs to lower-end consumers.

And they are?

 

[HenryBHough]

Meanwhile, the first new U.S. start-up car company in the United States sells exclusively electric vehicles and is paving the way for mass production of EVs to lower-end consumers.

And Enron was going to make energy so cheap.............

 

[ShackledNation]

Electric vehicle sales are running out of gas - LA Times

Said a few years back that nobody would care about EV's. As usual, I'm right!!

Americans dont want these stoopid cars......and the sales numbers cearly show it!!





As always, the AGW k00ks will say, "Well......wait until tomorrow......". Thats always their gay fallback on stuff like this but it never pans out!!! The myths MUST be perpetuated.


Bottom line?


Electric vehicles are a joke.

Sigh. Let's look at the facts:

"Caldwell’s research showed substantial gains in the pure EV and plug-in hybrid segments -- 35% and 44%, respectively."

Electrified car sales stall as buyers back away from hybrids - LA Times

The reason you see an overall slowdown is because electric vehicles are more expensive or downright ugly. Until their cost is brought down, the typical car consumer is not going to buy them. That says nothing about the merits of electrical vehicles and their prevalence going forward. Cars were sparsely used until the Model T. Electric vehicles will soon have their Model T moment.

 

[ShackledNation]

Meanwhile, the first new U.S. start-up car company in the United States sells exclusively electric vehicles and is paving the way for mass production of EVs to lower-end consumers.

And Enron was going to make energy so cheap.............

Is there any evidence Tesla is committing corporate fraud like Enron? No. It would be like comparing any innovative company to Enron, like saying "You think Google is going to make smartphones? Hah. Look what happened to Enron. Apple? I don't think so--Enron."

What a worthless comment to make.

 

[ShackledNation]

Meanwhile, the first new U.S. start-up car company in the United States sells exclusively electric vehicles and is paving the way for mass production of EVs to lower-end consumers.

And they are?

Tesla. The fact you didn't get the reference is very telling of how ill-informed you are.

 

[skookerasbil]

Electric vehicle sales are running out of gas - LA Times

Said a few years back that nobody would care about EV's. As usual, I'm right!!

Americans dont want these stoopid cars......and the sales numbers cearly show it!!





As always, the AGW k00ks will say, "Well......wait until tomorrow......". Thats always their gay fallback on stuff like this but it never pans out!!! The myths MUST be perpetuated.


Bottom line?


Electric vehicles are a joke.

Sigh. Let's look at the facts:

"Caldwell’s research showed substantial gains in the pure EV and plug-in hybrid segments -- 35% and 44%, respectively."

Electrified car sales stall as buyers back away from hybrids - LA Times

The reason you see an overall slowdown is because electric vehicles are more expensive or downright ugly. Until their cost is brought down, the typical car consumer is not going to buy them. That says nothing about the merits of electrical vehicles and their prevalence going forward. Cars were sparsely used until the Model T. Electric vehicles will soon have their Model T moment.

Any growth of green related products ALWAYS look good when measured against themselves!!! It is a typical ploy of the far left assholes to do this......display growth or a product in its own fringe market segment. They do this all the time with solar power statistics. Looks impressive...........until it is put into context.......and you see that solar power accounts for just 0.2% of US energy!!! A joke.

Same with electric cars/hybrids........3% of total car sales!!! A joke......and sales actually fell this past year.



Any time a lefty starts throwing out statistics...........radar up sons!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

more victory laps for............



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[ShackledNation]

Electric vehicle sales are running out of gas - LA Times

Said a few years back that nobody would care about EV's. As usual, I'm right!!

Americans dont want these stoopid cars......and the sales numbers cearly show it!!





As always, the AGW k00ks will say, "Well......wait until tomorrow......". Thats always their gay fallback on stuff like this but it never pans out!!! The myths MUST be perpetuated.


Bottom line?


Electric vehicles are a joke.

Sigh. Let's look at the facts:

"Caldwell’s research showed substantial gains in the pure EV and plug-in hybrid segments -- 35% and 44%, respectively."

Electrified car sales stall as buyers back away from hybrids - LA Times

The reason you see an overall slowdown is because electric vehicles are more expensive or downright ugly. Until their cost is brought down, the typical car consumer is not going to buy them. That says nothing about the merits of electrical vehicles and their prevalence going forward. Cars were sparsely used until the Model T. Electric vehicles will soon have their Model T moment.

Any growth of green related products ALWAYS look good when measured against themselves!!! It is a typical ploy of the far left assholes to do this......display growth or a product in its own fringe market segment. They do this all the time with solar power statistics. Looks impressive...........until it is put into context.......and you see that solar power accounts for just 0.2% of US energy!!! A joke.

Same with electric cars/hybrids........3% of total car sales!!! A joke......and sales actually fell this past year.



Any time a lefty starts throwing out statistics...........radar up sons!!!

Sigh. Another partisan hack. I'm not a lefty, and your appeal to left-right politics is simplistic and unintelligent. The reality is that BEVs have been expanding sales each year. They have only truly existed on the market for a few years, so of course they will have a low market share.

As I said before, the reason you see an overall slowdown is because electric vehicles are more expensive or downright ugly. Until their cost is brought down, the typical car consumer is not going to buy them. That says nothing about the merits of electrical vehicles and their prevalence going forward. Cars were sparsely used until the Model T. Electric vehicles will soon have their Model T moment. Tesla is quite likely to provide that, and is making strides in innovation. Are you familiar with the Tesla Supercharger network? The range Tesla cars can get? The plans Tesla has for mass production of a lower-end consumer car?

The reality is that electric cars are growing more and more economically preferable each year. The thought of never having to pay for gas is a huge advantage, and less pollution is simply another plus.

 

[Politico]

bump for laughable factor

Speaking of laughable. It says hybrid sales are down. Electric sales are up. Did you really think you could change the article title and no one would notice?

 

[skookerasbil]

bump for laughable factor

Speaking of laughable. It says hybrid sales are down. Electric sales are up. Did you really think you could change the article title and no one would notice?

Who cares..........still a fringe market all the way. Only bubble dwellers go for these cars......in America, people want cars that are big and bad.......not faggy little 2 door SPECKS.


s0n.....you're like the guy playing on the team that is down 53-0, get a lucky bounce, go into the end zone and spike the ball and do a dance making the score 53-7.

 

[jc456]

Electric vehicle sales are running out of gas - LA Times

Said a few years back that nobody would care about EV's. As usual, I'm right!!

Americans dont want these stoopid cars......and the sales numbers cearly show it!!





As always, the AGW k00ks will say, "Well......wait until tomorrow......". Thats always their gay fallback on stuff like this but it never pans out!!! The myths MUST be perpetuated.


Bottom line?


Electric vehicles are a joke.

Sigh. Let's look at the facts:

"Caldwell’s research showed substantial gains in the pure EV and plug-in hybrid segments -- 35% and 44%, respectively."

Electrified car sales stall as buyers back away from hybrids - LA Times

The reason you see an overall slowdown is because electric vehicles are more expensive or downright ugly. Until their cost is brought down, the typical car consumer is not going to buy them. That says nothing about the merits of electrical vehicles and their prevalence going forward. Cars were sparsely used until the Model T. Electric vehicles will soon have their Model T moment.

Any growth of green related products ALWAYS look good when measured against themselves!!! It is a typical ploy of the far left assholes to do this......display growth or a product in its own fringe market segment. They do this all the time with solar power statistics. Looks impressive...........until it is put into context.......and you see that solar power accounts for just 0.2% of US energy!!! A joke.

Same with electric cars/hybrids........3% of total car sales!!! A joke......and sales actually fell this past year.



Any time a lefty starts throwing out statistics...........radar up sons!!!

Sigh. Another partisan hack. I'm not a lefty, and your appeal to left-right politics is simplistic and unintelligent. The reality is that BEVs have been expanding sales each year. They have only truly existed on the market for a few years, so of course they will have a low market share.

As I said before, the reason you see an overall slowdown is because electric vehicles are more expensive or downright ugly. Until their cost is brought down, the typical car consumer is not going to buy them. That says nothing about the merits of electrical vehicles and their prevalence going forward. Cars were sparsely used until the Model T. Electric vehicles will soon have their Model T moment. Tesla is quite likely to provide that, and is making strides in innovation. Are you familiar with the Tesla Supercharger network? The range Tesla cars can get? The plans Tesla has for mass production of a lower-end consumer car?

The reality is that electric cars are growing more and more economically preferable each year. The thought of never having to pay for gas is a huge advantage, and less pollution is simply another plus.

where are your stats that prove your post?

 

[jc456]

bump for laughable factor

Speaking of laughable. It says hybrid sales are down. Electric sales are up. Did you really think you could change the article title and no one would notice?

Who cares..........still a fringe market all the way. Only bubble dwellers go for these cars......in America, people want cars that are big and bad.......not faggy little 2 door SPECKS.


s0n.....you're like the guy playing on the team that is down 53-0, get a lucky bounce, go into the end zone and spike the ball and do a dance making the score 53-7.

Skook,

I found this from an article by 'The Street' on the Telsa company:

"Tesla started delivering its all-electric Model S luxury sedan to consumers in the middle of 2012. By all accounts it appears to have delivered at least approximately 3,000 of them by year's end, and for 2013 the company has guided to 20,000 cars.
On the one hand, that's a whole lot of cars. On the other hand, it's like spitting into the ocean. There are over 300 million people in this country, and there are over 15 million cars sold per year in the U.S. Even at 15,000 cars per year, Tesla would constitute only 0.1% of the U.S. new car market. Obviously, an even smaller percentage of the cumulative stock of cars on the roads. "

 

[skookerasbil]

bump for laughable factor

Speaking of laughable. It says hybrid sales are down. Electric sales are up. Did you really think you could change the article title and no one would notice?

Who cares..........still a fringe market all the way. Only bubble dwellers go for these cars......in America, people want cars that are big and bad.......not faggy little 2 door SPECKS.


s0n.....you're like the guy playing on the team that is down 53-0, get a lucky bounce, go into the end zone and spike the ball and do a dance making the score 53-7.

Skook,

I found this from an article by 'The Street' on the Telsa company:

"Tesla started delivering its all-electric Model S luxury sedan to consumers in the middle of 2012. By all accounts it appears to have delivered at least approximately 3,000 of them by year's end, and for 2013 the company has guided to 20,000 cars.
On the one hand, that's a whole lot of cars. On the other hand, it's like spitting into the ocean. There are over 300 million people in this country, and there are over 15 million cars sold per year in the U.S. Even at 15,000 cars per year, Tesla would constitute only 0.1% of the U.S. new car market. Obviously, an even smaller percentage of the cumulative stock of cars on the roads. "

LMAO......but you read the posts from the k00ks, you'd think we have explosive sales of EV's.



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