Eagle Scout honor student expelled from school after forgetting gun locked in truck

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Eat a dick douche bag.

No one was talking to you my lonely child. If you need attention just ask....otherwise stfu

It's on a public message board, you are talking to everyone.

Did you read that in a fortune cookie?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Zero sympathy here – ‘forgot’ and ‘guns’ do not go together.

With gun ownership comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility is knowing gun laws, policies, rules, and regulations.

It’s better he learn a hard lesson at a young age.

Let’s hope this will compel him to never ‘forget’ about a gun again.

Amen!

You people everyone of you are beyond idiots. So a felony on his record and not getting a diploma is ok with you,I will repeat your a FUCKING ass sucking retard.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Again, with rights come responsibility, particularly concerning gun ownership.

The student in question brought a firearm to school in violation of school policy; that he ‘forgot’ it was in the vehicle is legally irrelevant.

The firearm should have been removed from the car after the range session, not left there overnight where the car or firearm might have been stolen, putting yet another illegal gun on the streets. The student had every opportunity to behave responsibility and he failed to do so.

The student was irresponsible with his firearm and may indeed pay the price accordingly.

 

[auditor0007]

Eagle Scout Facing Expulsion over Gun Charge

PRINCETON, N.C. (WTVD) -- A Johnston County high school student has been expelled for bringing a gun onto school property, but the school's student body is coming to his defense.

David "Cole" Withrow is a senior at Princeton High School. He was set to graduate in just a few weeks, until his arrest Monday for bringing a gun to school.

Cole, who is an Eagle Scout and an honors student, said he forgot to take his gun out of his truck after skeet shooting. When he got to school and realized the gun was in his car, he went into school to call his mom so he could leave and take the gun home.

Some in the community wonder how a senior with just days left of school can be expelled when two years ago, the school's assistant principal accidentally brought a loaded gun to school in her car and was only suspended for three days.

Students defend classmate expelled for gun | abc11.com

Withrow had spent the weekend camping with a group of his friends, including Boykin’s son. The boys went fishing for catfish on Saturday and skeet shooting on Sunday.

He realized he had left his shotgun in his truck on Monday morning as he reached to grab his book bag, said Boykin.

“He didn’t know what to do,” she told Fox News. “If you jump in the truck and leave, then they get you for skipping school. Once you are there you have to say.”

So the teenager, who did his senior class project on gun safety, locked his truck, walked to the front office and called his mother. That’s when the trouble started

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Eagle Scout Facing Expulsion over Gun Charge | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes


So this kid was going to graduate with honors and now he can't. I also find it interesting that the vice principal made the same mistake and was only suspended for three days. I feel there should be a grey area and not so black and white. If the kid had not called his mother to do the right thing school adminstrators would have probably never know the gun was in his car.

Another case of zero tolerance run amok. Schools have got to stop punishing kids for doing the right thing.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why do people throw out common sense, this story would have never have happened.

 

[CaféAuLait]

Eagle Scout Facing Expulsion over Gun Charge

PRINCETON, N.C. (WTVD) -- A Johnston County high school student has been expelled for bringing a gun onto school property, but the school's student body is coming to his defense.

David "Cole" Withrow is a senior at Princeton High School. He was set to graduate in just a few weeks, until his arrest Monday for bringing a gun to school.

Cole, who is an Eagle Scout and an honors student, said he forgot to take his gun out of his truck after skeet shooting. When he got to school and realized the gun was in his car, he went into school to call his mom so he could leave and take the gun home.

Some in the community wonder how a senior with just days left of school can be expelled when two years ago, the school's assistant principal accidentally brought a loaded gun to school in her car and was only suspended for three days.

Students defend classmate expelled for gun | abc11.com

Withrow had spent the weekend camping with a group of his friends, including Boykin’s son. The boys went fishing for catfish on Saturday and skeet shooting on Sunday.

He realized he had left his shotgun in his truck on Monday morning as he reached to grab his book bag, said Boykin.

“He didn’t know what to do,” she told Fox News. “If you jump in the truck and leave, then they get you for skipping school. Once you are there you have to say.”

So the teenager, who did his senior class project on gun safety, locked his truck, walked to the front office and called his mother. That’s when the trouble started

.



Eagle Scout Facing Expulsion over Gun Charge | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes


So this kid was going to graduate with honors and now he can't. I also find it interesting that the vice principal made the same mistake and was only suspended for three days. I feel there should be a grey area and not so black and white. If the kid had not called his mother to do the right thing school adminstrators would have probably never know the gun was in his car.

Another case of zero tolerance run amok. Schools have got to stop punishing kids for doing the right thing.

Indeed and start punishing those who do the wrong thing instead of him and the other students learning that bringing a weapon onto school property was not a big deal.

Look at what happened to the assistant principal of the same school whose actions lead to the students getting a loaded handgun out of her glove box while looking for the owners manual in the glove box in shop class to fix her car.

Or the other teacher who walked away when he too brought a weapon onto school property. Or the school cop who was employed by the Sheriff’s department that knew the loaded weapon was in the assistant principals car and left it there for students to find and play with it.

These kids learned from those who were supposed to teach them that doing such brought little to no consequences. Therefore they were not taught to be vigilant IMO since the adults and their teachers were doing FAR worse

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Amen!

You people everyone of you are beyond idiots. So a felony on his record and not getting a diploma is ok with you,I will repeat your a FUCKING ass sucking retard.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Again, with rights come responsibility, particularly concerning gun ownership.

The student in question brought a firearm to school in violation of school policy; that he ‘forgot’ it was in the vehicle is legally irrelevant.

The firearm should have been removed from the car after the range session, not left there overnight where the car or firearm might have been stolen, putting yet another illegal gun on the streets. The student had every opportunity to behave responsibility and he failed to do so.

The student was irresponsible with his firearm and may indeed pay the price accordingly.

Once again, why wasn't the principle treated the same way?

 

[Againsheila]

Why do people throw out common sense, this story would have never burn.

I think it's because common sense isn't (common, that is).

 

[CaféAuLait]

You people everyone of you are beyond idiots. So a felony on his record and not getting a diploma is ok with you,I will repeat your a FUCKING ass sucking retard.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Again, with rights come responsibility, particularly concerning gun ownership.

The student in question brought a firearm to school in violation of school policy; that he ‘forgot’ it was in the vehicle is legally irrelevant.

The firearm should have been removed from the car after the range session, not left there overnight where the car or firearm might have been stolen, putting yet another illegal gun on the streets. The student had every opportunity to behave responsibility and he failed to do so.

The student was irresponsible with his firearm and may indeed pay the price accordingly.

Once again, why wasn't the principle treated the same way?

Or for that matter the second teacher who brought a gun onto school property in the same school district, or the cop who found and left the loaded weapon in the car of the principal and knew of its whereabouts? Instead of the cop doing the right thing he and the principal tried to hide it and it ended up where the kids got the gun since the principal gave the keys to the kids in shop class to fix her car.

A lot of forgetfulness on the principals part there which could have led to the immediate death of one of those kids who found her loaded gun and were playing with it.

 

[Esmeralda]

His crime: He went skeet shooting the day before with some friends, safely unloaded and locked up his shotgun in his truck afterward, and then forgot it was there the next day when he drove to school.

Zero sympathy here – ‘forgot’ and ‘guns’ do not go together.

With gun ownership comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility is knowing gun laws, policies, rules, and regulations.

It’s better he learn a hard lesson at a young age.

Let’s hope this will compel him to never ‘forget’ about a gun again.

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

 

[CaféAuLait]

His crime: He went skeet shooting the day before with some friends, safely unloaded and locked up his shotgun in his truck afterward, and then forgot it was there the next day when he drove to school.

Zero sympathy here – ‘forgot’ and ‘guns’ do not go together.

With gun ownership comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility is knowing gun laws, policies, rules, and regulations.

It’s better he learn a hard lesson at a young age.

Let’s hope this will compel him to never ‘forget’ about a gun again.

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

A felony on his record ( he was charged since the admin overheard him calling him mother when he called her to come get the weapon he forgot) will indeed affect his life. A felony his assistant principal, another teacher and a cop were not charged with when they allowed kids to get a loaded weapon out of the principals car and play with it and or bring a loaded weapon onto school property. None were charged only suspended for two days with pay.

This kid and the others at that school were taught by their teachers, superintendent, assistant principals and cops it is okay to forget since they were never brought to justice for their forgetfulness while actually putting lives in danger where kids actually got the assistant principals loaded gun. They created the situation and they taught the students you do not need to be vigilant about weapons since adults and those teaching them and or in positions of authority were continually allowed to break the law.

 

[Esmeralda]

Zero sympathy here – ‘forgot’ and ‘guns’ do not go together.

With gun ownership comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility is knowing gun laws, policies, rules, and regulations.

It’s better he learn a hard lesson at a young age.

Let’s hope this will compel him to never ‘forget’ about a gun again.

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

A felony on his record ( he was charged since the admin overheard him calling him mother when he called her to come get the weapon he forgot) will indeed affect his life. A felony his assistant principal, another teacher and a cop were not charged with when they allowed kids to get a loaded weapon out of the principals car and play with it and or bring a loaded weapon onto school property. None were charged only suspended for two days with pay.

Being charged is not being convicted. It is highly doubtful he will be convicted of a felony. If it is a first offense, and would be if he is such a good boy as he is painted, it will be reduced to a misdeanor and he will get some kind of slap on the hand. Again, you are trying to make much ado about essentially nothing. And keep in mind, it is not the school that makes law enforcement charges, it is the police department. For whatever reason, the police department/the DA decided to charge him with a felony, not the school. They have no power to do such a thing. To charge someone with a felony means he broke the law; the school rules are one thing, the law is another. Why the DA didn't charge the teachers, who knows. Why don't you find that out. The attempt to try to point the finger for this at the school is ludicrous. They were following procedure they have to follow in reporting this to the police. They don't have a choice to exempt one student as opposed to another, no matter who the student is. If they only targeted certain students who brought guns to school, you'd be attacking the school for being predjudiced against them. This thread is all about being pro-gun and nothing about reason or logic.

 

[CaféAuLait]

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

A felony on his record ( he was charged since the admin overheard him calling him mother when he called her to come get the weapon he forgot) will indeed affect his life. A felony his assistant principal, another teacher and a cop were not charged with when they allowed kids to get a loaded weapon out of the principals car and play with it and or bring a loaded weapon onto school property. None were charged only suspended for two days with pay.

Being charged is not being convicted. It is highly doubtful he will be convicted of a felony. If it is a first offense, and would be if he is such a good boy as he is painted, it will be reduced to a misdeanor and he will get some kind of slap on the hand. Again, you are trying to make much ado about essentially nothing. And keep in mind, it is not the school that makes law enforcement charges, it is the police department. For whatever reason, the police department/the DA decided to charge him with a felony, not the school. They have no power to do such a thing. To charge someone with a felony means he broke the law; the school rules are one thing, the law is another. Why the DA didn't charge the teachers, who knows. Why don't you find that out. The attempt to try to point the finger for this at the school is ludicrous. They were following procedure they have to follow in reporting this to the police. They don't have a choice to exempt one student as opposed to another, no matter who the student is. If they only targeted certain students who brought guns to school, you'd be attacking the school for being predjudiced against them. This thread is all about being pro-gun and nothing about reason or logic.

It is not ludicrous in the least. The assistant principal and the cop who worked for the Sheriff’s department and assinged to the school, were let off and not charged after kids at the school were given keys to a car that the cop and the assistant principal KNEW contained a loaded weapon. A loaded weapon the kids found and played with. YES they KNEW BEFORE the kids got the car. The school cop put the loaded gun back in the car after the principal asked him to see if it was there. The school cop should have taken action immediately but decided not to and left the gun in the glove box. The loaded weapon was then found as the kids in the class car shop looked for the owners manual in the glove box to fix the car as a part of school class.

They were not charged because the Superintendent and the police said and I quote 'it was a mistake on the assistant principal’s part and she did not know the gun was in the car” BUT she did know and the cop did too, before the kids got the car. It is in the article linked to in this thread.

The kid made a mistake (not even close to what the assistant principal did the gun was never in the school and in kids hands or loaded) the teachers and principal did not have to call the police, the SAME way they did not on the assistant principal or the cop who KNEW the car contained a loaded weapon.

And then we have the second teacher who made the SAME mistake, once again no charges since it was an "honest mistake". The police were informed after the fact. The SAME consideration could have been given to this kid since he was on the phone asking his mom to come rectify his mistake. The only way they knew about his mistake is because they overheard him asking her to come pick up the weapon.

The kids were conditioned and learned that mistakes are allowed without consequence by the same people who were paid to TEACH them. If the situations had been dealt with as the law stated the. Perhaps the kids would have learned IF the right thing was done then they too would have been more vigilant.

 

[Againsheila]

His crime: He went skeet shooting the day before with some friends, safely unloaded and locked up his shotgun in his truck afterward, and then forgot it was there the next day when he drove to school.

Zero sympathy here – ‘forgot’ and ‘guns’ do not go together.

With gun ownership comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility is knowing gun laws, policies, rules, and regulations.

It’s better he learn a hard lesson at a young age.

Let’s hope this will compel him to never ‘forget’ about a gun again.

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

Even a misdemeanor on your record can limit your job opportunities. The school over reacted. At first they were going to expel him, then suspend him for a year, now they are going to let him graduate but not attend the ceremony. That's a heck of a lot of back pedaling. They better drop the felony charges as well. Face it, the school made a mistake in this case and they attempted to ruin a boys life. We can only guess why?

Nothing should have been made of this at all. If they hadn't been listening to his phone call, no one would have been the wiser. All this because he tried to do the right thing. All he's learned is that if he does something wrong, he better keep it to himself and that their are spies everywhere. You could forgive him for becoming paranoid over this for the rest of his life.

Another reason to home school your kids. The public schools are damaging our children, they aren't giving them an education that anyone really wants their kids to have. Big deal, so they know how to toe the line and keep their heads down, is that what we really want for the future leaders of our society?

 

[Papageorgio]

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

A felony on his record ( he was charged since the admin overheard him calling him mother when he called her to come get the weapon he forgot) will indeed affect his life. A felony his assistant principal, another teacher and a cop were not charged with when they allowed kids to get a loaded weapon out of the principals car and play with it and or bring a loaded weapon onto school property. None were charged only suspended for two days with pay.

Being charged is not being convicted. It is highly doubtful he will be convicted of a felony. If it is a first offense, and would be if he is such a good boy as he is painted, it will be reduced to a misdeanor and he will get some kind of slap on the hand. Again, you are trying to make much ado about essentially nothing. And keep in mind, it is not the school that makes law enforcement charges, it is the police department. For whatever reason, the police department/the DA decided to charge him with a felony, not the school. They have no power to do such a thing. To charge someone with a felony means he broke the law; the school rules are one thing, the law is another. Why the DA didn't charge the teachers, who knows. Why don't you find that out. The attempt to try to point the finger for this at the school is ludicrous. They were following procedure they have to follow in reporting this to the police. They don't have a choice to exempt one student as opposed to another, no matter who the student is. If they only targeted certain students who brought guns to school, you'd be attacking the school for being predjudiced against them. This thread is all about being pro-gun and nothing about reason or logic.

How many thousands of dollars will that set him and his parents back?
And you really think the school has no choice? Seriously? They have moved his suspension all over the board!
This thread is about a school overreacting and the left pretending it is all fair. Felony or misdemeanor, this kid will pay dearly. Of course if he gets jail time, he'll become a Democrat, will never get a good job and live off the state. Win/win for you.

 

[Esmeralda]

A felony on his record ( he was charged since the admin overheard him calling him mother when he called her to come get the weapon he forgot) will indeed affect his life. A felony his assistant principal, another teacher and a cop were not charged with when they allowed kids to get a loaded weapon out of the principals car and play with it and or bring a loaded weapon onto school property. None were charged only suspended for two days with pay.

Being charged is not being convicted. It is highly doubtful he will be convicted of a felony. If it is a first offense, and would be if he is such a good boy as he is painted, it will be reduced to a misdeanor and he will get some kind of slap on the hand. Again, you are trying to make much ado about essentially nothing. And keep in mind, it is not the school that makes law enforcement charges, it is the police department. For whatever reason, the police department/the DA decided to charge him with a felony, not the school. They have no power to do such a thing. To charge someone with a felony means he broke the law; the school rules are one thing, the law is another. Why the DA didn't charge the teachers, who knows. Why don't you find that out. The attempt to try to point the finger for this at the school is ludicrous. They were following procedure they have to follow in reporting this to the police. They don't have a choice to exempt one student as opposed to another, no matter who the student is. If they only targeted certain students who brought guns to school, you'd be attacking the school for being predjudiced against them. This thread is all about being pro-gun and nothing about reason or logic.

How many thousands of dollars will that set him and his parents back?
And you really think the school has no choice? Seriously? They have moved his suspension all over the board!
This thread is about a school overreacting and the left pretending it is all fair. Felony or misdemeanor, this kid will pay dearly. Of course if he gets jail time, he'll become a Democrat, will never get a good job and live off the state. Win/win for you.

If it is against the law to bring a firearm onto school property, then, yes, the school has no option but to report it to the police. The are obligated to do so. If it costs him a lot of money to defend himself, he will learn not to break the law. As far as his suspension from school and not being allowed to participate in school activities, including graduation ceremonies, I imagine that is following school rules and procedures, which, again, they cannot make exceptions about if those rules are to be taken seriously by all of the students now and in the future. He wont' get jail time and most likely will not be convicted of a felony. So you are making a big issue out of nothing. The laws are in place because of things bad people have done. All laws are in place because of those who do bad things, but we all have to obey those laws. That's what a civilized society does. If you make a stupid, irresponsible mistake that breaks the law, you pay for it, just like anyone else.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Zero sympathy here – ‘forgot’ and ‘guns’ do not go together.

With gun ownership comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility is knowing gun laws, policies, rules, and regulations.

It’s better he learn a hard lesson at a young age.

Let’s hope this will compel him to never ‘forget’ about a gun again.

'Not allowed to graduate' simply means he won't be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies; it does not mean he won't get his diploma--he will still have his high school record of graduating with honors, etc. If he, indeed, is an honor student with a great high school record and GPA, he will have already applied to and been admitted to the university of his choice, or one of them, so this will in no way affect his future or anything about his life in the long term, except that he, hopefully, will learn a lesson about 'forgetting' where a gun is that he is responsible for. All this means is he won't take part in graduation ceremonies. Not a big deal in the long run. Not a big deal at all.

This is another instance of the anti-gun control people trying to make 'much ado about nothing.'

Even a misdemeanor on your record can limit your job opportunities. The school over reacted. At first they were going to expel him, then suspend him for a year, now they are going to let him graduate but not attend the ceremony. That's a heck of a lot of back pedaling. They better drop the felony charges as well. Face it, the school made a mistake in this case and they attempted to ruin a boys life. We can only guess why?

Nothing should have been made of this at all. If they hadn't been listening to his phone call, no one would have been the wiser. All this because he tried to do the right thing. All he's learned is that if he does something wrong, he better keep it to himself and that their are spies everywhere. You could forgive him for becoming paranoid over this for the rest of his life.

Another reason to home school your kids. The public schools are damaging our children, they aren't giving them an education that anyone really wants their kids to have. Big deal, so they know how to toe the line and keep their heads down, is that what we really want for the future leaders of our society?

lefties are always all over the board

on issues like that

had the media not got involved

the kid would still be roasted alive

once people start snooping around

about the practices of the school

the policy starts a changin

--LOL

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Being charged is not being convicted. It is highly doubtful he will be convicted of a felony. If it is a first offense, and would be if he is such a good boy as he is painted, it will be reduced to a misdeanor and he will get some kind of slap on the hand. Again, you are trying to make much ado about essentially nothing. And keep in mind, it is not the school that makes law enforcement charges, it is the police department. For whatever reason, the police department/the DA decided to charge him with a felony, not the school. They have no power to do such a thing. To charge someone with a felony means he broke the law; the school rules are one thing, the law is another. Why the DA didn't charge the teachers, who knows. Why don't you find that out. The attempt to try to point the finger for this at the school is ludicrous. They were following procedure they have to follow in reporting this to the police. They don't have a choice to exempt one student as opposed to another, no matter who the student is. If they only targeted certain students who brought guns to school, you'd be attacking the school for being predjudiced against them. This thread is all about being pro-gun and nothing about reason or logic.

How many thousands of dollars will that set him and his parents back?
And you really think the school has no choice? Seriously? They have moved his suspension all over the board!
This thread is about a school overreacting and the left pretending it is all fair. Felony or misdemeanor, this kid will pay dearly. Of course if he gets jail time, he'll become a Democrat, will never get a good job and live off the state. Win/win for you.

If it is against the law to bring a firearm onto school property, then, yes, the school has no option but to report it to the police. The are obligated to do so. If it costs him a lot of money to defend himself, he will learn not to break the law. As far as his suspension from school and not being allowed to participate in school activities, including graduation ceremonies, I imagine that is following school rules and procedures, which, again, they cannot make exceptions about if those rules are to be taken seriously by all of the students now and in the future. He wont' get jail time and most likely will not be convicted of a felony. So you are making a big issue out of nothing. The laws are in place because of things bad people have done. All laws are in place because of those who do bad things, but we all have to obey those laws. That's what a civilized society does. If you make a stupid, irresponsible mistake that breaks the law, you pay for it, just like anyone else.

The one problem with your argument is that the same law existed when the vice principal did it, and the school cop actually helped her lock it in her car. That resulted in the car going into the shop, the gun, which was loaded, being found, and actually handled by students. That is a lot more serious than this one, yet no charges were filed.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Being charged is not being convicted. It is highly doubtful he will be convicted of a felony. If it is a first offense, and would be if he is such a good boy as he is painted, it will be reduced to a misdeanor and he will get some kind of slap on the hand. Again, you are trying to make much ado about essentially nothing. And keep in mind, it is not the school that makes law enforcement charges, it is the police department. For whatever reason, the police department/the DA decided to charge him with a felony, not the school. They have no power to do such a thing. To charge someone with a felony means he broke the law; the school rules are one thing, the law is another. Why the DA didn't charge the teachers, who knows. Why don't you find that out. The attempt to try to point the finger for this at the school is ludicrous. They were following procedure they have to follow in reporting this to the police. They don't have a choice to exempt one student as opposed to another, no matter who the student is. If they only targeted certain students who brought guns to school, you'd be attacking the school for being predjudiced against them. This thread is all about being pro-gun and nothing about reason or logic.

How many thousands of dollars will that set him and his parents back?
And you really think the school has no choice? Seriously? They have moved his suspension all over the board!
This thread is about a school overreacting and the left pretending it is all fair. Felony or misdemeanor, this kid will pay dearly. Of course if he gets jail time, he'll become a Democrat, will never get a good job and live off the state. Win/win for you.

If it is against the law to bring a firearm onto school property, then, yes, the school has no option but to report it to the police. The are obligated to do so. If it costs him a lot of money to defend himself, he will learn not to break the law. As far as his suspension from school and not being allowed to participate in school activities, including graduation ceremonies, I imagine that is following school rules and procedures, which, again, they cannot make exceptions about if those rules are to be taken seriously by all of the students now and in the future. He wont' get jail time and most likely will not be convicted of a felony. So you are making a big issue out of nothing. The laws are in place because of things bad people have done. All laws are in place because of those who do bad things, but we all have to obey those laws. That's what a civilized society does. If you make a stupid, irresponsible mistake that breaks the law, you pay for it, just like anyone else.

Big "if."

Does the "law" there prohibit bringing a gun on to school property?

Or does the law make it illegal to do so KNOWINGLY?

The SCHOOL's policy,

JOHNSTON COUNTY SCHOOLS
Section 4000 - STUDENTS
Policy Code: 4200 Code of Student Conduct

says (in relevant part):

35. Possession or Use of a Firearm – Possessing, handling, using, transferring or bringing a firearm onto educational property, or to a school-sponsored curricular or extracurricular activity off of educational property.

Consequence(s):

A student who brings a firearm onto school property shall be suspended for 365 calendar days unless the superintendent recommends placement in an alternative program approved by the Board of Education. Expulsion may be recommended if the student is fourteen years of age or older. (G.S. 115C-390.10) .

But the North Carolina LAW seems to REQUIRE that it be "knowingly"

§ 14‑269.2. Weapons on campus or other educational property.

(a) The following definitions apply to this section:

(1) Educational property. – Any school building or bus, school campus, grounds, recreational area, athletic field, or other property owned, used, or operated by any board of education or school board of trustees, or directors for the administration of any school.

* * * *

(1b) School. – A public or private school, community college, college, or university.

(2) Student. – A person enrolled in a school or a person who has been suspended or expelled within the last five years from a school, whether the person is an adult or a minor.

* * * *

(4) Weapon. – Any device enumerated in subsection (b), (b1), or (d) of this section.

(b) It shall be a Class I felony for any person knowingly to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school. Unless the conduct is covered under some other provision of law providing greater punishment, any person who willfully discharges a firearm of any kind on educational property is guilty of a Class F felony. However, this subsection does not apply to a BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, or air pistol.

-- GS_14-269.2

 

[Esmeralda]

How many thousands of dollars will that set him and his parents back?
And you really think the school has no choice? Seriously? They have moved his suspension all over the board!
This thread is about a school overreacting and the left pretending it is all fair. Felony or misdemeanor, this kid will pay dearly. Of course if he gets jail time, he'll become a Democrat, will never get a good job and live off the state. Win/win for you.

If it is against the law to bring a firearm onto school property, then, yes, the school has no option but to report it to the police. The are obligated to do so. If it costs him a lot of money to defend himself, he will learn not to break the law. As far as his suspension from school and not being allowed to participate in school activities, including graduation ceremonies, I imagine that is following school rules and procedures, which, again, they cannot make exceptions about if those rules are to be taken seriously by all of the students now and in the future. He wont' get jail time and most likely will not be convicted of a felony. So you are making a big issue out of nothing. The laws are in place because of things bad people have done. All laws are in place because of those who do bad things, but we all have to obey those laws. That's what a civilized society does. If you make a stupid, irresponsible mistake that breaks the law, you pay for it, just like anyone else.

Big "if."

Does the "law" there prohibit bringing a gun on to school property?

Or does the law make it illegal to do so KNOWINGLY?

The SCHOOL's policy, says (in relevant part):

35. Possession or Use of a Firearm – Possessing, handling, using, transferring or bringing a firearm onto educational property, or to a school-sponsored curricular or extracurricular activity off of educational property.

Consequence(s):

A student who brings a firearm onto school property shall be suspended for 365 calendar days unless the superintendent recommends placement in an alternative program approved by the Board of Education. Expulsion may be recommended if the student is fourteen years of age or older. (G.S. 115C-390.10) .

But the North Carolina LAW seems to REQUIRE that it be "knowingly"

§ 14‑269.2. Weapons on campus or other educational property.

(a) The following definitions apply to this section:

(1) Educational property. – Any school building or bus, school campus, grounds, recreational area, athletic field, or other property owned, used, or operated by any board of education or school board of trustees, or directors for the administration of any school.

* * * *

(1b) School. – A public or private school, community college, college, or university.

(2) Student. – A person enrolled in a school or a person who has been suspended or expelled within the last five years from a school, whether the person is an adult or a minor.

* * * *

(4) Weapon. – Any device enumerated in subsection (b), (b1), or (d) of this section.

(b) It shall be a Class I felony for any person knowingly to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school. Unless the conduct is covered under some other provision of law providing greater punishment, any person who willfully discharges a firearm of any kind on educational property is guilty of a Class F felony. However, this subsection does not apply to a BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, or air pistol.

-- GS_14-269.2

Of course he did it knowingly. Just because he temporarily forgot it was in the car, that does not mean he didn't know it was there. He knew it was there, he just wasn't thinking. For example, I got on a plane once with my carry on bag full of expensive cosmetics I'd bought while traveling. I knew the law and I knew it wasn't allowed in carry on bags, but I 'forgot' temporarily because I had a lot of other things on my mind. They pulled me aside and opened the bag. The security person was a woman and realized this was very expensive cosmetics (bottles of skin care treatments), so she didn't want to dump it. She allowed me to check the bag in and have it go cargo w/o the extra cost because it was a small bag. But, I got a lecture about what was allowed and what wasn't. I knew what was allowed, I just wasn't thinking. And that's just cosmetics. How can someone forget a gun? Especially considering all the campus shootings in the US. IMO it is pretty hard for something like that to slip one's mind. So, he knew it was there; I knew the cosmetics were there, and the airline would have been within their rights to dump all of it if they chose to.

As far as the school punishment, it looks like that is mandated by the school board, so, again, the principal had no option but to follow the rules.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

If it is against the law to bring a firearm onto school property, then, yes, the school has no option but to report it to the police. The are obligated to do so. If it costs him a lot of money to defend himself, he will learn not to break the law. As far as his suspension from school and not being allowed to participate in school activities, including graduation ceremonies, I imagine that is following school rules and procedures, which, again, they cannot make exceptions about if those rules are to be taken seriously by all of the students now and in the future. He wont' get jail time and most likely will not be convicted of a felony. So you are making a big issue out of nothing. The laws are in place because of things bad people have done. All laws are in place because of those who do bad things, but we all have to obey those laws. That's what a civilized society does. If you make a stupid, irresponsible mistake that breaks the law, you pay for it, just like anyone else.

Big "if."

Does the "law" there prohibit bringing a gun on to school property?

Or does the law make it illegal to do so KNOWINGLY?

The SCHOOL's policy, says (in relevant part):

But the North Carolina LAW seems to REQUIRE that it be "knowingly"

§ 14‑269.2. Weapons on campus or other educational property.

(a) The following definitions apply to this section:

(1) Educational property. – Any school building or bus, school campus, grounds, recreational area, athletic field, or other property owned, used, or operated by any board of education or school board of trustees, or directors for the administration of any school.

* * * *

(1b) School. – A public or private school, community college, college, or university.

(2) Student. – A person enrolled in a school or a person who has been suspended or expelled within the last five years from a school, whether the person is an adult or a minor.

* * * *

(4) Weapon. – Any device enumerated in subsection (b), (b1), or (d) of this section.

(b) It shall be a Class I felony for any person knowingly to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school. Unless the conduct is covered under some other provision of law providing greater punishment, any person who willfully discharges a firearm of any kind on educational property is guilty of a Class F felony. However, this subsection does not apply to a BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, or air pistol.

-- GS_14-269.2

Of course he did it knowingly. Just because he temporarily forgot it was in the car, that does not mean he didn't know it was there. He knew it was there, he just wasn't thinking. For example, I got on a plane once with my carry on bag full of expensive cosmetics I'd bought while traveling. I knew the law and I knew it wasn't allowed in carry on bags, but I 'forgot' temporarily because I had a lot of other things on my mind. They pulled me aside and opened the bag. The security person was a woman and realized this was very expensive cosmetics (bottles of skin care treatments), so she didn't want to dump it. She allowed me to check the bag in and have it go cargo w/o the extra cost because it was a small bag. But, I got a lecture about what was allowed and what wasn't. I knew what was allowed, I just wasn't thinking. And that's just cosmetics. How can someone forget a gun? Especially considering all the campus shootings in the US. IMO it is pretty hard for something like that to slip one's mind. So, he knew it was there; I knew the cosmetics were there, and the airline would have been within their rights to dump all of it if they chose to.

As far as the school punishment, it looks like that is mandated by the school board, so, again, the principal had no option but to follow the rules.

You are completely wrong.

If he forgot that he had the damn weapon in his trunk, then he sure as hell did NOT bring that gun onto the school property "knowingly."

Words have meaning, Ezzy.

Furthermore, I quoted the County's school policy. OF COURSE the Superintendent has some discretion.