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Free speech is obviously only accepted by liberals when it's speech they can agree with.
Like Bashir saying in a preplanned statement that Palin should be whipped, have her mouth defecated in and her eyes and mouth pissed in.
Apparently to libs that's just fine and dandy.
Since I have been backing Phil through this whole thread, you might want to rethink the broad brush you've chosen.
If someone on a television show said they supported same sex marriage and got suspended because the statement did not reflect the valuee of the network, what would happen?
Free speech is obviously only accepted by liberals when it's speech they can agree with.
Like Bashir saying in a preplanned statement that Palin should be whipped, have her mouth defecated in and her eyes and mouth pissed in.
Apparently to libs that's just fine and dandy.
Since I have been backing Phil through this whole thread, you might want to rethink the broad brush you've chosen.
I don't consider you a liberal. I categorize carefully.
To me you are truly an independent. You follow your own path. A rare breed indeed.
ETA: Many people claim to be independent when they are just wishy washy. You are never wishy washy.
Thanks, TD!
A&E is privately owned so has every right to censor as they see fit.
Just as Americans have every right to decline to watch but, in addition, have the right to boycott sponsors of A&E programming. Flaw in that is they'd have to watch A&E to know who's advertising.
Phil's comments were not broadcast on A&E. He answered a question from a GQ interviewer...and he has been paraphrased into appearing bigoted when he is definitely NOT!
A&E fucked up...big time! A&E promotes other shows that are far more socially INCORRECT than what Phil said.
As the apparent only member of the LGBT community big n bad enough to be open about it (holds up thumb and forefinger threatening to squish the head of anyone who mouths off about it heh) I have to say sexual orientation is in fact a choice. Who you're attracted to is the result of conditioning. No gene short-circuits your free will turning you into an automoton. Who you pursue a relationship with, is the result of you making a choice. Being straight doesn't not prevent you from getting drunk one night and orally copulating another guy. Though impaired, you made a choice.
But sexuality isn't a binary state. Just because you say you're straight, doesn't mean given the right circumstance or opportunity you wouldn't have a gay liason. Or in the case of porn, do gay porn for a ton of money (most gay porn actors are actually straight and only 'gay for pay'.) Consequently, the act of having sex doesn't define your sexuality. And the term sexual orientatio is itself a figure of speech. Until coined, people had sex with whom ever they wanted to. But we just love categorizing things, and since some can't accept the fact that they have it within themselves to have gay sex too, gays must be just gay, and straights must be just straight.
Sorry, no. 1's and 6's on the Kinsey scale will become 2's or 5's in prison 'making due.' Orientation can change instantly because of enviroment and opportunity. But it's always a choice people make.
The question itself is phrased badly. Because some are attracted to blondes, some to their own sex, it's the result of conditioning. But there's no gene that takes away free will.
Gays and straights alike make a choice to pursue those relationships. But they can both make different choices at will. Believing they can't is simply wrong.
A&E is privately owned so has every right to censor as they see fit.
Just as Americans have every right to decline to watch but, in addition, have the right to boycott sponsors of A&E programming. Flaw in that is they'd have to watch A&E to know who's advertising.
Phil's comments were not broadcast on A&E. He answered a question from a GQ interviewer...and he has been paraphrased into appearing bigoted when he is definitely NOT!
A&E fucked up...big time! A&E promotes other shows that are far more socially INCORRECT than what Phil said.
Irrelevant.
He represents the network regardless the venue of his speech.
And the network made a decision it considered to be in its best interest.
I am bisexual.
Just because you say something, doesn't mean your choice and actions may say something else down the road. Just because I say I'm bisexual doesn't mean if I have a gay lover I can't say I'm gay. For all intents and purposes, I would be. Just the same as if having a straight lover I might say I'm straight. The terms don't mean anyting because they're not absolute or binding. I can change how I describe myself at will. Just like you and your sister could. If you got really drunk and wanted to see what all the fuss was about one night at a party, you might choose to make-out with another girl. Same thing with your sister.
Curiousity causes people to do many things they didn't think they ever would be it sex, drugs, etc.
But he doesn't hold those views anymore. That's the point pinhead.
Did that have to be explained? Remember, Reagan thought Social Security was beginning of the end of this country. Yet he ended up supporting it.
The difference is we all knew Obama was lying (again) when he said at the time he thought marriag, e was between a man and a woman. He always supported gay marriage, he just couldnt say it at the time because he didnt want to piss off his other base, religious blacks. They wouldn't have voted for someone else, but they may have stayed home, and that would have been a problem.
You all knew Obama was lying? Just somehow "knew"?
I learned a couple of things moments ago that set this whole DD crap on it's ear.
First is that the next season has already been shot and will air in a week or two, Phil Robertson of course will still be on it. Secondly, they won't start filming the season after that for another 4-5 months.
Here's what's going to happen. A&E will "suspend" Mr. Robertson for 4-5 months and then claim that he's learned his lesson or some shit and he'll be back in time to film the new season.
Don't doubt me.
For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing were nothing but a publicity stunt. I find it hard to believe that the company would create this show to highlight the crazy things this guy says, then "suspend" him for saying something crazy.
I'm growing a bread in support of Phil.
my wife loves mine.
I'm growing a bread in support of Phil.
I tend to bake bread myself.
Beards are pretty cool though
Real Christians are not at all bothered by Duck problems at all.
It is an employer employment issue, not a 1st Amendment issue.
If you disagree then don't watch.
I would say that I am a consumer and therefore have expectations.
No, I have wondered if all of this isn't a big play for publicity for the show. Look at that guy, who would be surprised he thinks this way? I had heard of this reality tv show vaguely but it's all I'm hearing about this week. Reruns are still playing on A&E but I think I'll pass.
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