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Kasich Slams Trump's Move on Health Care Subsidies
WASHINGTON — Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Sunday blasted President Donald Trump's decision to stop funding some health care subsides during an interview with host Chuck Todd on NBC's "Meet The Press."
"What I don't understand, Chuck, is what are they doing?" the governor asked. "Are they just passing these things and people are praising what the president did because of politics? I mean, do they understand the impact that this has on families, on people?"
The president and many other Republicans have called these subsidies a "payoff" to health insurers.
Kasich slammed that suggestion on "Meet The Press," saying, "these were payments to insurance companies to make sure that hardworking Americans, who don't make a lot of money, can have their co-payments taken care of."
Who paid for the care needed by the scofflaws?
Local government taxpayers , that's who.
Experts???? LOL
Yeah we all know that only experts that agree with leftists are credible.
Who paid for the care needed by the scofflaws?
Local government taxpayers , that's who.
So, you support nationalizing a fundamental human need, because you don't like freeloaders?
I don't buy it. It's not that I don't believe you're stingy twat - you probably are - but the argument doesn't add up. If you don't like your local government helping sick people in need, tell them to stop! It'd be a hell of a lot easier that creating a leviathon government program with the single-minded purpose of funneling money to the insurance industry.
That is a ridiculously thin statement of opinion with no documentation or attempt to explain how that is possible. The only way that cutting the subsidies is going to create a windfall for insurers is if they use it as an excuse to jack up premiums. Then where will that leave the residents of Fla? Anyone who believes this tripe has got to be really, really STUPID
Nationalizing???So, you support nationalizing a fundamental human need, because you don't like freeloaders?
I don't support insurance companies, they are in business to make a profit, not to pay claims. I support Medicare for all, from cradle to grave. In the long run it will be less expensive and more productive if preventative medicine replaces long term care of preventable chronic disease.
I don't support insurance companies, they are in business to make a profit, not to pay claims. I support Medicare for all, from cradle to grave. In the long run it will be less expensive and more productive if preventative medicine replaces long term care of preventable chronic disease.
Medicare is insurance companies. They're still profiting behind the scenes. The only difference is that government is buying your insurance for you. With your tax money. The only thing that changes is you don't have any say in the matter. Or, well, once every four year or so you get your drop-in-the-ocean "vote". Go team!
Trump was responding to Fox News’ John Roberts, who noted that Trump’s efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act through legislation have failed, and then asked him, “I’m wondering, at this point, what is your health care plan, sir?”
Without addressing the question, Trump immediately attacked insurance companies.
Well if you look, ah, insurance companies, and you take a good strong look at the numbers, you’ll see since the formation of Obamacare they’re up 400 percent, 450 percent, 250 percent, 300 percent — they’ve made a fortune, the insurance companies,” Trump said. “So when I knocked out the hundreds of millions of dollars a month being paid back to the insurance companies by the politicians, I must tell you, that wanted me to continue to pay this, I said I’m not going to do it. This is money that goes to the insurance companies to line their pockets, to raise up their stock prices, and they’ve had a record run, they’ve had an incredible run, and it’s not appropriate.”
Trump then pivoted to attacking Obamacare.
“Obamacare is a disaster. It’s virtually dead, as far as I am concerned it really is dead, and I predicted that a long time ago — it is a concept that doesn’t work, and we are very close,” Trump said. “We feel we have the votes, and as soon as we’re finished with taxes, John, we really feel we have the votes to get block grants into the states where the states can much better manage this money and much better take care of the people, rather than the federal government. The state block grants — we’ll do massive block grants into the various states so that the states can run the program.”
Them money?
Obamacare was doom from the beginning ,a system that the middle class must pay subsidies for all the leeches who refuse to work.
What do you mean the middle class paid subsidies?
Are you really that dense? Where do you think them money the government transfers to other people comes from?
them money? WTH are you talking about? I posted a link on what taxpayers were targeted with higher taxes to pay for it.
Government money is fungible, hun. Considering the enormous deficits of the past few years, it's inane to think that any of us who pay taxes are not getting screwed with this program.
So you have no problem with your tax money going to fund the war machine, congressmen, oil companies, etc? But if you're asked to let them take a couple dollars of your taxes to help someone who might really need it. Now do tell me how much your taxes went up to help fund this? If you made over $200,000 you did pay extra. You are also now going to pay extra in premiums in 2018 since trump just took the csr's away.
End the drug war; too, fiscally responsible for the right wing?Them money?
Obamacare was doom from the beginning ,a system that the middle class must pay subsidies for all the leeches who refuse to work.
What do you mean the middle class paid subsidies?
Are you really that dense? Where do you think them money the government transfers to other people comes from?
them money? WTH are you talking about? I posted a link on what taxpayers were targeted with higher taxes to pay for it.
Government money is fungible, hun. Considering the enormous deficits of the past few years, it's inane to think that any of us who pay taxes are not getting screwed with this program.
Nationalizing???So, you support nationalizing a fundamental human need, because you don't like freeloaders?
I don't support insurance companies, they are in business to make a profit, not to pay claims. I support Medicare for all, from cradle to grave. In the long run it will be less expensive and more productive if preventative medicine replaces long term care of preventable chronic disease.
Medicare is insurance companies. They're still profiting behind the scenes. The only difference is that government is buying your insurance for you. With your tax money. The only thing that changes is you don't have any say in the matter. Or, well, once every four year or so you get your drop-in-the-ocean "vote". Go team!
A reporter finally asked Trump to just explain his health care plan. His response was a train wreck.
Trump was responding to Fox News’ John Roberts, who noted that Trump’s efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act through legislation have failed, and then asked him, “I’m wondering, at this point, what is your health care plan, sir?”
Without addressing the question, Trump immediately attacked insurance companies.
Maybe you can explain what the fuck he's talking about
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR PLAN?
What is the role of the Federal government is open to question. You are just presenting your opinion as fact. If you want to be part of an interdependent, civilized society, the needs of others are in fact a reality that you have to accept and deal with. When people are sick, we all pay in many ways and providing health care is the least expensive and most humane way to do that.Them money?
What do you mean the middle class paid subsidies?
Are you really that dense? Where do you think them money the government transfers to other people comes from?
them money? WTH are you talking about? I posted a link on what taxpayers were targeted with higher taxes to pay for it.
Government money is fungible, hun. Considering the enormous deficits of the past few years, it's inane to think that any of us who pay taxes are not getting screwed with this program.
So you have no problem with your tax money going to fund the war machine, congressmen, oil companies, etc? But if you're asked to let them take a couple dollars of your taxes to help someone who might really need it. Now do tell me how much your taxes went up to help fund this? If you made over $200,000 you did pay extra. You are also now going to pay extra in premiums in 2018 since trump just took the csr's away.
I have problems with my tax money being wasted on things which are not the Federal Government's role to provide. Someone else's NEED is not a reason to enslave me to their service.
That does not make a lick of sense. With single payer, the insurance companies would be effectively out of the health care business.Nationalizing???So, you support nationalizing a fundamental human need, because you don't like freeloaders?
You've never heard of it? It's when government takes over an industry or service. Single payer would be nationalizing health insurance. Under the covers, it will be the same culprits profiting, but as consumers we'll be stuck with them. Which seems to be the point everything Congress has done regarding health care.
What is the role of the Federal government is open to question. You are just presenting your opinion as fact. If you want to be part of an interdependent, civilized society, the needs of others are in fact a reality that you have to accept and deal with. When people are sick, we all pay in many ways and providing health care is the least expensive and most humane way to do that.Them money?
Are you really that dense? Where do you think them money the government transfers to other people comes from?
them money? WTH are you talking about? I posted a link on what taxpayers were targeted with higher taxes to pay for it.
Government money is fungible, hun. Considering the enormous deficits of the past few years, it's inane to think that any of us who pay taxes are not getting screwed with this program.
So you have no problem with your tax money going to fund the war machine, congressmen, oil companies, etc? But if you're asked to let them take a couple dollars of your taxes to help someone who might really need it. Now do tell me how much your taxes went up to help fund this? If you made over $200,000 you did pay extra. You are also now going to pay extra in premiums in 2018 since trump just took the csr's away.
I have problems with my tax money being wasted on things which are not the Federal Government's role to provide. Someone else's NEED is not a reason to enslave me to their service.
Again?? Don't you ever read my responses? Every time you ask this question you act like I've never answered you. And every single time I answer you. In response, you get distracted with Trump and start typing in all caps again. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, just for shits and grins:
The first thing I'd do, just to set the scene and minimize the current suffering, would be a significant bump in current safety net programs. The programs are mostly bullshit, but some people are relying on them for health care, and it's likely to get worse before it gets better.
So you say. Another baseless opinion not backed up with documentation. Group plans have been in effect for decades are they are working. Market incentives.... like the incentive to screw and take advantage of consumers>??Next, I'd remove every tax incentive and regulation propping up "group" health insurance plans. They're not viable and never have been. The only reason they exist is that they've been propped up by government. Worse still, they destroy market incentives and are the driving force behind health care inflation.
I think that is exactly what Obamacare does. But yet you hate Obamacare????Then, I'd use the Commerce clause to bust up the regulatory 'fiefdoms' that insurance companies have created for themselves in each state.
What the hell does that mean...? Maximize freedom to do what. No have insurance until they get sick and then buy into the market at the expense of those who are responsible enough to cover themselves in the first place? Find their own solution. ? What is your solution? What solutions do elderly and low income people have? Get real and cut the bullshitLastly, I'd initiate an exhaustive survey of all the ways the law is being used to herd health care consumers - the idea being to maximize their freedom to find their own solutions to their health care needs, without the insurance industry trying to shut them down via their control of the regulatory regime.
It is open to interpretation Is Health Care Reform Technically Illegal?The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
