Donald Trump Calls For 'Complete Shutdown' Of Muslim Immigration To U.S.

[JimH52]

You frigin isolationist kill me. The mantra of the GOP should be. "We are here and we got it. If you don't, too bad." Then you walk around with your Bibles.

And that attitude goes with everything, health care, jobs, homes, possessions.. You carry around a Bible, but evidently skip the verse that says to "love your enemy."

The repub Bible must say "carpet bomb your enemy." At least Ted Cruz's does.

I'm not a christian.
I believe in being a good team player. My team is team America. We Americans should fight for Americans first. That means sealing the border and limiting the number of low wage workers immigrating to America. Religion doesn't enter the picture. And hell if napalm will work keeping them out, I'm for it. They want a life like mine they can fix their own damn country and duplicate our achievements.

You could be Phrump's Secretary of Defense! Of course he will never win the WH, but if he did he and you could break every international rule of war that exists. Glad we don't need to worry about a Phrump presidency.....

 

[Tuatara]

Right. We're supposed import rape, murder, child and woman abuse to show how tolerant we are.
What, our good ole home-grown criminals and psycho's can't inflict enough suffering and pain that we should get them foreign aid?

Has anyone here or in the public eye asked to bring these type of criminals into the country? I think your existing laws would not allow them in. Or maybe you are insinuating that all Muslims are these criminals. You wouldn't be doing that because that would make you a bigot. There must be something else you are not sharing because you're not a bigot, right. You do know the meaning of the word.

Muslim ain't a race so being against Muslims would be like being against Christians and has nothing to do with whether you are a bigot or not.

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

 

[Blackrook]

Liberals instinctively defend whoever is most hostile to society, including first degree murderers, rapists, kiddie pornographers, Communists, but I think they really need to draw the line somewhere, and that's here.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What happened to you to make you so miserable in your old age. Angry old man, sad.

Some anger (which there should be).. Mostly disgust with those who aren't angry and alarmed, as they should be.
What happened ? Do your homework, and then you'll know.

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Hey Protectionist.................how many of those books have YOU read?

I'm guessing not many, because you don't appear to be able to think coherently, I mean, you still think that ISIL is going to detonate a nuke in the U.S. Got news for you, they will only be able to get a dirty bomb, and it's only going to have an effect on a couple of city blocks, but that's only if it's a large capacity bomb.

So tell me..............how many of those books you recommend have you actually read? Can you give me a synopsis of each of them?

If you don't know what synopsis means, I'm guessing that the rest of my post is lost on you.

 

[protectionist]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

 

[Tuatara]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

 

[Slyhunter]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

You can't compare the Koran with the Old Testament because there is the New Testament that makes it obsolete. You have to compare Modern Islam with Modern Christianity. and Modern Islam still preaches death to apostates, stoning raped women, enslaving women in burqas, etc. While Modern Christianity, the New Testament, preaches love thy neighbor.

 

[Katzndogz]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

You can't compare the Koran with the Old Testament because there is the New Testament that makes it obsolete. You have to compare Modern Islam with Modern Christianity. and Modern Islam still preaches death to apostates, stoning raped women, enslaving women in burqas, etc. While Modern Christianity, the New Testament, preaches love thy neighbor.

Are you understanding?

The old testament is used to justify muslim atrocity today. Mass murder is justified. A muslim man took a baby from its mother, shook it violently and threatened to throw it at the police. The act is justifed because of the old testament.

It's smoke and mirrors. Anything and everything is justified by past acts no matter how far back they need to go.

 

[Tuatara]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

You can't compare the Koran with the Old Testament because there is the New Testament that makes it obsolete.

Yet many Christians will bring out the old testament when they are discussing their hatred of gays. It's the same God in both those testaments and Christians are the ones that keep saying he is infallible.

You have to compare Modern Islam with Modern Christianity.

Sure, then there is no reason to bring up religious text.

and Modern Islam still preaches death to apostates, stoning raped women, enslaving women in burqas, etc.

All of Islam, or just a small percentage? Many Muslim women feel the burqa is not enslaving. If all Muslims or even a high percentage of them believed this then you would have a leg to stand on. Most Muslims do not condone death to apostates or stoning raped women. Do you think grouping them all together helps things? What if people grouped all Christians from the words and the actions of the Westboro Baptists or American Promise Ministries?

While Modern Christianity, the New Testament, preaches love thy neighbor.

As long as your neighbor isn't gay, atheist, Muslim, black...etc. Now I know the overwhelming majority of Christians try to practice the positive things in the bible but many get caught exposing hatred towards certain groups and they use the old testament to support their assertions. I'm arguing right now with someone who brought up Leviticus 20:13 and when I responded with other quotes from Leviticus he responded, "well that's the old testament" I'm just saying if you are going to follow your bible, you can't criticize other holy books for their content. You can criticize the actions of these people who do follow their holy books.

Thankfully, Christians do not follow their Holy books.

 

[Slyhunter]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

You can't compare the Koran with the Old Testament because there is the New Testament that makes it obsolete.

Yet many Christians will bring out the old testament when they are discussing their hatred of gays. It's the same God in both those testaments and Christians are the ones that keep saying he is infallible.

Different christians in different arguments. Not the same ones argue both. And again I'm not a christian. I'm an agnostic arguing a valid christian point. Those who follow the Old Testament are not Christians. To be Christian you must follow Christ, which means the New Testament and love thy neighbor.

You have to compare Modern Islam with Modern Christianity.

Sure, then there is no reason to bring up religious text.

Islam terrorists use those texts to justify their terror. Fathers use those texts to justify killing their daughters, throwing acid into their wives faces. Muslims uses that text to justify throwing gays off of roofs, killing apostates, and stoning rape victims. Christianity does none of that.

and Modern Islam still preaches death to apostates, stoning raped women, enslaving women in burqas, etc.

All of Islam, or just a small percentage? Many Muslim women feel the burqa is not enslaving. If all Muslims or even a high percentage of them believed this then you would have a leg to stand on. Most Muslims do not condone death to apostates or stoning raped women. Do you think grouping them all together helps things? What if people grouped all Christians from the words and the actions of the Westboro Baptists or American Promise Ministries?

How many Westboro Baptists are there, 15?
Now count how many Muslims believe apostates should be put to death. Millions. Your arguments doesn't hold up.

While Modern Christianity, the New Testament, preaches love thy neighbor.

As long as your neighbor isn't gay, atheist, Muslim, black...etc. Now I know the overwhelming majority of Christians try to practice the positive things in the bible but many get caught exposing hatred towards certain groups and they use the old testament to support their assertions. I'm arguing right now with someone who brought up Leviticus 20:13 and when I responded with other quotes from Leviticus he responded, "well that's the old testament" I'm just saying if you are going to follow your bible, you can't criticize other holy books for their content. You can criticize the actions of these people who do follow their holy books.

Thankfully, Christians do not follow their Holy books.

Narrow minded assholes use the Old Testament to back their points. Modern Christians use the New Testament.
A few Christians who are "fundamentalists" are far fewer in number than the millions of Muslims we are talking about.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, not only was there the Westboro Baptist church that used the Bible as a basis for their hate, there are a lot of other groups and people that use the Bible to justify their actions as well. And, some of these people kill. Those are the people who shoot abortion doctors and bomb clinics. And yeah, they use the Bible to justify their killing.

Lots of churches use the Bible as a way to exclude gays, and, because their book says they are an "abomination" and "living in sin", then Christians feel okay with treating them as less than a whole human.

Face it.....................extremists of all kinds will use whatever religious text their belief system is based on and cherry pick the hell out of it to justify their actions.

Be they Christian, or Islamic.

 

[TooTall]

Perfect

Perfect? What's perfect about it? Does it also apply to Christian immigration into the U.S.?

Christians are not planning jihad against anyone. See the difference?

 

[TooTall]

Is Trump going to place the Muslims who are already here, including American citizens, into concentration camps?

Trump will put any Muslims that are living here that kill or are planning to kill other American citizens in jail, Just like Obama has done.

 

[Slyhunter]

You know, not only was there the Westboro Baptist church that used the Bible as a basis for their hate, there are a lot of other groups and people that use the Bible to justify their actions as well. And, some of these people kill. Those are the people who shoot abortion doctors and bomb clinics. And yeah, they use the Bible to justify their killing.

Lots of churches use the Bible as a way to exclude gays, and, because their book says they are an "abomination" and "living in sin", then Christians feel okay with treating them as less than a whole human.

Face it.....................extremists of all kinds will use whatever religious text their belief system is based on and cherry pick the hell out of it to justify their actions.

Be they Christian, or Islamic.

ISIS Burns 15 Civilians Alive as Crying Woman Begs the West 'Save Us or Bomb Us'

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, not only was there the Westboro Baptist church that used the Bible as a basis for their hate, there are a lot of other groups and people that use the Bible to justify their actions as well. And, some of these people kill. Those are the people who shoot abortion doctors and bomb clinics. And yeah, they use the Bible to justify their killing.

Lots of churches use the Bible as a way to exclude gays, and, because their book says they are an "abomination" and "living in sin", then Christians feel okay with treating them as less than a whole human.

Face it.....................extremists of all kinds will use whatever religious text their belief system is based on and cherry pick the hell out of it to justify their actions.

Be they Christian, or Islamic.

ISIS Burns 15 Civilians Alive as Crying Woman Begs the West 'Save Us or Bomb Us'

Hey, whether you died quickly from a gunshot or were burned alive, dead is still dead, and murder is still murder.

Regardless of your religious beliefs.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Right. We're supposed import rape, murder, child and woman abuse to show how tolerant we are.
What, our good ole home-grown criminals and psycho's can't inflict enough suffering and pain that we should get them foreign aid?

Has anyone here or in the public eye asked to bring these type of criminals into the country? I think your existing laws would not allow them in. Or maybe you are insinuating that all Muslims are these criminals. You wouldn't be doing that because that would make you a bigot. There must be something else you are not sharing because you're not a bigot, right. You do know the meaning of the word.

I'm stating that it would be idiotic to bring in immigrants whose religion allows and/or encourages such behavior.

 

[9thIDdoc]

You frigin isolationist kill me. The mantra of the GOP should be. "We are here and we got it. If you don't, too bad." Then you walk around with your Bibles.

And that attitude goes with everything, health care, jobs, homes, possessions.. You carry around a Bible, but evidently skip the verse that says to "love your enemy."

The repub Bible must say "carpet bomb your enemy." At least Ted Cruz's does.

I'm not a christian.
I believe in being a good team player. My team is team America. We Americans should fight for Americans first. That means sealing the border and limiting the number of low wage workers immigrating to America. Religion doesn't enter the picture. And hell if napalm will work keeping them out, I'm for it. They want a life like mine they can fix their own damn country and duplicate our achievements.

You could be Phrump's Secretary of Defense! Of course he will never win the WH, but if he did, he and you could break every international rule of war that exists. Glad we don't need to worry about a Phrump presidency.....

There are no "international rules of war" except purely for propaganda purposes. If you doubt this please feel free to show any one single "rule" that all nations are willing to abide by. "Rules of war" are more absurd than the tooth fairy or the Easter bunny.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

Deflection. It's not about what is written in books. It's about how people act in the name of their religion.

 

[Tuatara]

Right. We're supposed import rape, murder, child and woman abuse to show how tolerant we are.
What, our good ole home-grown criminals and psycho's can't inflict enough suffering and pain that we should get them foreign aid?

Has anyone here or in the public eye asked to bring these type of criminals into the country? I think your existing laws would not allow them in. Or maybe you are insinuating that all Muslims are these criminals. You wouldn't be doing that because that would make you a bigot. There must be something else you are not sharing because you're not a bigot, right. You do know the meaning of the word.

I'm stating that it would be idiotic to bring in immigrants whose religion allows and/or encourages such behavior.

There are over 3 million Muslims living in America. How many do you think allow and/or encourages such behavior? There's a name for that, when people paint a certain group with the same brush. I'm sure it will come to me.

 

[Tuatara]

I see you have no understanding of the word bigotry. Let's check the dictionary shall we.

Bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

1. Muslims are not religious group. Islam is not a religion.

2. Your definition doesn't fit a hatred of Islam. Keyword > "unfairly" There is nothing unfair about hating the advocacies (if not commands) of the Koran (mass murder, rape, severe sex discrimination, wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, animal cruelty, religious intolerance, supremacism, sedition, etc) - all of which are ILLEGAL under US law. If an American didn't hate Islam, and the illegal/immoral things it is composed of, that person would be very odd indeed.

1. Muslims are a religious group. Islam is a religion.

2. If you are going to use the Koran as your guideline for Islam then we should use the bible too. The bible also commands mass genocide, murder, abuse of women & children, slavery, severe sexual discrimination, bigotry, racism... I could go on. Thankfully most Christians do not follow their holy book. As for Muslims the overwhelming majority do not follow the Koran. I find it very hypocritical of those who will criticize the Koran yet they believe their own bible is void of such illegal and immoral passages. There is a video going around where horrible passages are read from the Koran and people are shocked why anyone would follow that religion. In the video it is revealed that those passages are actually from the bible. Christian hypocrites.

Deflection. It's not about what is written in books. It's about how people act in the name of their religion.

Then bring it up with protectionist because he brought up the Koran first or do you only have issues with it when it goes against your political stripes.