Domination

[PoliticalChic]

Not only is my education and my alma mater far better than yours....but only one of us has 'valedictorian' in their resume.

Being a HOme School Valedictorian isn't that impressive.

The facts of history...which, clearly, you never studied, prove the validity of the quote.

Except half of the quote was taken out of context and the other half was completely fabricated. But you go on pretending like you made a quote, oh Mail Order Bride from Hell.

Look up "context."

And try not to use words you don't understand.

 

[Theowl32]

Since then we've veered toward the views of Stalin and international socialism, communism.

You really shouldn't mindless parrot everything you read on your delusional websites but study some actual history instead. Lenin was the one that wanted a worldwide revolution, Stalin didn't care about that and instead wanted to make the USSR a communist example for the world (with himself as dictator of course).

Hey pussy. I dare you make an avatar making fun of the prophet Muhammad. Bet you won't.

Pussy.

 

[JoeB131]

Prior to the 32nd presidency, our nation was far different...and closer to its inception: classically liberal, conservative.....followers of the Constitution.

Yes, and then we realized we had to become a modern state.

Frankly, I don't think you'd want to live in an America as it was in the 19th century. Here's a big hint, people with your skin tone and genitalia were considered second class citizens.

Hey, but I'm sure you can find some more falsified quotes to make your point with, and then pretend you weren't PWNed when someone figured out they were falsified.

 

[Moonglow]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

The term itself means....
a.Control or power over another or others.

b.The exercise of such control or power.
The Free Dictionary

That domination is produced, largely, via indoctrination...but just as regularly, by genocide, slaughter, government enforced famine, and by bullets.....followed by indoctrination of those who survive.



2. In modern times, whether communism, socialism, Marxism, Nazism, Progressivism, or modern Liberalism.......the view can be traced to Hegel, and to Marx.

a. The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”


b. We can find the very same view under Franklin Roosevelt's reign, heard in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floor May 14, 1943
Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism




To see a very different view, one traditionally American....hear the echo of Henry David Thoreau: “There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.” Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience,




3. To the view that every individual must bow to the collective, Karl Marx added murder as an inducement:

"Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

b. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first." George Watson.


Yet, note how many have been trained to accept subjugation, and domination.
65 million American voted for the latest iteration of totalitarian governance....the one currently in the White House.

What is the standard rate for a dominatrix??

 

[JoeB131]

Look up "context."

And try not to use words you don't understand.

Okay, you are still dancing around the fact that half that quote was completely made up.

YOu know, it's a sign of maturity to admit you just made a mistake. I think we are seeing a lot about your maturity level today.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Since then we've veered toward the views of Stalin and international socialism, communism.

You really shouldn't mindless parrot everything you read on your delusional websites but study some actual history instead. Lenin was the one that wanted a worldwide revolution, Stalin didn't care about that and instead wanted to make the USSR a communist example for the world (with himself as dictator of course).

1. Did you find any inaccuracy here:

Roosevelt had willed Europe to Stalin, and made certain that Soviet Communism emerged victorious over his sibling, national socialism, Nazism. And, late in Roosevelt's term, he acceded to Stalin's wish for an international governing body....the United Nations with a Bolshevik spy as its first secretary-general.



a. " [Alger] Hiss was appointed acting secretary-general of the U.N. founding conference and was involved in staffing the U.N. by selecting people for employment in the world body. “About fifty showed up as permanent employees and a couple of hundred in part-time assignments,” Shelton says of Hiss’s efforts." “Alger Hiss Day” a Reminder of U.N.’s Anti-Americanism



2. "Stalin didn't care about that and instead wanted to make the USSR a communist example for the world (with himself as dictator of course)."

Gads, you're a fool.
The post-war history of Eastern Europe proves that.


3. Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."

Guess who ordered that?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

The term itself means....
a.Control or power over another or others.

b.The exercise of such control or power.
The Free Dictionary

That domination is produced, largely, via indoctrination...but just as regularly, by genocide, slaughter, government enforced famine, and by bullets.....followed by indoctrination of those who survive.



2. In modern times, whether communism, socialism, Marxism, Nazism, Progressivism, or modern Liberalism.......the view can be traced to Hegel, and to Marx.

a. The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”


b. We can find the very same view under Franklin Roosevelt's reign, heard in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floor May 14, 1943
Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism




To see a very different view, one traditionally American....hear the echo of Henry David Thoreau: “There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.” Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience,




3. To the view that every individual must bow to the collective, Karl Marx added murder as an inducement:

"Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

b. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first." George Watson.


Yet, note how many have been trained to accept subjugation, and domination.
65 million American voted for the latest iteration of totalitarian governance....the one currently in the White House.

What is the standard rate for a dominatrix??

Develop some self-respect and you'll no longer require such services.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Look up "context."

And try not to use words you don't understand.

Okay, you are still dancing around the fact that half that quote was completely made up.

YOu know, it's a sign of maturity to admit you just made a mistake. I think we are seeing a lot about your maturity level today.

In light of the 100 million slaughtered by Marx's spawn you appear quite the fool.

 

[Moonglow]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

The term itself means....
a.Control or power over another or others.

b.The exercise of such control or power.
The Free Dictionary

That domination is produced, largely, via indoctrination...but just as regularly, by genocide, slaughter, government enforced famine, and by bullets.....followed by indoctrination of those who survive.



2. In modern times, whether communism, socialism, Marxism, Nazism, Progressivism, or modern Liberalism.......the view can be traced to Hegel, and to Marx.

a. The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”


b. We can find the very same view under Franklin Roosevelt's reign, heard in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floor May 14, 1943
Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism




To see a very different view, one traditionally American....hear the echo of Henry David Thoreau: “There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.” Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience,




3. To the view that every individual must bow to the collective, Karl Marx added murder as an inducement:

"Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

b. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first." George Watson.


Yet, note how many have been trained to accept subjugation, and domination.
65 million American voted for the latest iteration of totalitarian governance....the one currently in the White House.

What is the standard rate for a dominatrix??

Develop some self-respect and you'll no longer require such services.

I was just wondering what you made an hour...

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Hey pussy. I dare you make an avatar making fun of the prophet Muhammad. Bet you won't.

Pussy.

Eh, what's your problem exactly?

 

[Theowl32]

Hey pussy. I dare you make an avatar making fun of the prophet Muhammad. Bet you won't.

Pussy.

Eh, what's your problem exactly?

That is what I thought.

 

[Moonglow]

Hey pussy. I dare you make an avatar making fun of the prophet Muhammad. Bet you won't.

Pussy.

Eh, what's your problem exactly?

He doesn't like your hobit...

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Socialism is basically what you think it is.

I see it as living and working in a tolerant and caring society.

Others, certainly in America, see it as oppressing the individual.

I struggle to get my head around a ME ME philosophy. Socialism grew out of a long history of oppression against the working man. The lesson is clear. Alone we are not strong enough to stand up to the mighty. Together we are.

This is the best definition I have ever come across.

“The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It’s the way I see football, the way I see life.” Bill Shankly

Oh fuck you and your left wing shit.

Let us all know why if your fucking utopia "caring for the poor people" is so great why so many from those utopias are trying to get here from there?

I already know for a fucking fact you never actually lived in those conditions. Not as a poor person.

Meanwhile, go ahead and explain why the poor from such a horrible system here are not trying to escape to those "utopias."

I have read your posts and you are nothing but a typical left wing bleeding heard asshat. Really, typical. You think you are so educated and really you are ignorant as all fuck.

With all due disrespect. I will be waiting for you to answer why so many from those great utopias are trying to get to this country if things are "oh so great."

As usual with your "type". Abuse follows very soon after the argument is lost. Go and play with your gun collection kid.

Oh stereotyping again? Yeah, that is what I thought. I see you will not answer my question. I also know I am right about your arrogant, unappreciative ass never living in those conditions that supposedly care so much for the poor.

Yeah, more like they care about turning them into automatic robotic votes while the socialist systems oppresses and puts up any and all road blocks in front of them.

You have no clue and I think it is pathetic how you think an oppressive government is good for the poor class. Oh, don't tell me. Steal from the rich, give to the poor.

Yeah, you and YOUR FUCKING TYPES are the pathetic ones. You pathetic unappreciative arrogant know it alls preach about something YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Instead you are seduced by the propaganda as put out by movies and fairy tales.

Keep thinking you are oh so smart. Meanwhile I am still waiting for the reason why so many try to escape those fucking utopias to get here, if things are so great there. I know you won't answer it. You will just pretend that I offended your little delicate sensibilities. Bleeding heart asshole.

Ha,ha,ha. Is there an adult we can call for you ?

 

[Theowl32]

Socialism is basically what you think it is.

I see it as living and working in a tolerant and caring society.

Others, certainly in America, see it as oppressing the individual.

I struggle to get my head around a ME ME philosophy. Socialism grew out of a long history of oppression against the working man. The lesson is clear. Alone we are not strong enough to stand up to the mighty. Together we are.

This is the best definition I have ever come across.

“The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It’s the way I see football, the way I see life.” Bill Shankly

Oh fuck you and your left wing shit.

Let us all know why if your fucking utopia "caring for the poor people" is so great why so many from those utopias are trying to get here from there?

I already know for a fucking fact you never actually lived in those conditions. Not as a poor person.

Meanwhile, go ahead and explain why the poor from such a horrible system here are not trying to escape to those "utopias."

I have read your posts and you are nothing but a typical left wing bleeding heard asshat. Really, typical. You think you are so educated and really you are ignorant as all fuck.

With all due disrespect. I will be waiting for you to answer why so many from those great utopias are trying to get to this country if things are "oh so great."

As usual with your "type". Abuse follows very soon after the argument is lost. Go and play with your gun collection kid.

Oh stereotyping again? Yeah, that is what I thought. I see you will not answer my question. I also know I am right about your arrogant, unappreciative ass never living in those conditions that supposedly care so much for the poor.

Yeah, more like they care about turning them into automatic robotic votes while the socialist systems oppresses and puts up any and all road blocks in front of them.

You have no clue and I think it is pathetic how you think an oppressive government is good for the poor class. Oh, don't tell me. Steal from the rich, give to the poor.

Yeah, you and YOUR FUCKING TYPES are the pathetic ones. You pathetic unappreciative arrogant know it alls preach about something YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Instead you are seduced by the propaganda as put out by movies and fairy tales.

Keep thinking you are oh so smart. Meanwhile I am still waiting for the reason why so many try to escape those fucking utopias to get here, if things are so great there. I know you won't answer it. You will just pretend that I offended your little delicate sensibilities. Bleeding heart asshole.

Ha,ha,ha. Is there an adult we can call for you ?

Kiss this, you fucking loser. Next.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

When I started school those "commie bastards" used to ensure that all children had a pint of milk in the morning. If you were good you could be the milk monitor and got to hand it out.It was much coveted by us 5 year olds.
Looking back I can see how it was all an evil plot.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Gads, you're a fool.
The post-war history of Eastern Europe proves that.

Eh, that only proves there was a cold war going on. Stalin, as a dictator, would have been insane to let NATO take over countries next door he controlled, doesn't have anything thing to do with spreading the communist revolution around the world.

Can't you ever post an original thought of yourself btw?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

That is what I thought.

Can you provide any evidence that supports your claim that you actually think?

 

[JoeB131]

1. Did you find any inaccuracy here:

Roosevelt had willed Europe to Stalin, and made certain that Soviet Communism emerged victorious over his sibling, national socialism, Nazism. And, late in Roosevelt's term, he acceded to Stalin's wish for an international governing body....the United Nations with a Bolshevik spy as its first secretary-general.

Yawn... and she's back to the Bircher Crazy.

Hey, here's the thing. FDR and Churchill were NOT IN A POSITION to tell Stalin what he could do in Eastern Europe. The reality was, 1) Most of the countries there were Hitler's allies, so fuck them and 2) The Soviets were actually doing most of the heavy lifting in the European Theater of the war.

3. Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."

Guess who ordered that?

That sword cuts both ways. the main reason why the West gave in to Hitler at Munich was because they thought he would be a foil to Stalin. You see, the West was a lot more afraid of Stalin than Hitler all the way up until the war started. Hitler and Mussolini initially called their alliance the "Anti-Comintern Pact"... in short, they were going to oppose what Stalin was doing and the west was largely good with that and appeased the shit out of them taking Albania and Ethiopia and Austria and Czechoslovakia. Not to mention what the Axis was doing in Spain against the Communist/Republican forces.

It wasn't until Hitler and Stalin cut a deal to dismember Poland that alliances shifted. And even then, up until the point Hitler overran the west, there was always that hope they could turn him and Stalin against each other.

By the time that happened, though, we found we needed Stalin to beat Hitler.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gads, you're a fool.
The post-war history of Eastern Europe proves that.

Eh, that only proves there was a cold war going on. Stalin, as a dictator, would have been insane to let NATO take over countries next door he controlled, doesn't have anything thing to do with spreading the communist revolution around the world.

Can't you ever post an original thought of yourself btw?

It is more than a bonus when I force you Leftists to stick up for the most prolific mass murder in history.

 

[JoeB131]

It is more than a bonus when I force you Leftists to stick up for the most prolific mass murder in history.

History is full of mass murderers.

The difference between heroes and war criminals is the difference between winners and losers.