Does the U.S. have any allies in the Obama era?

France is an ally but aside from saying " you go girl" they are unwilling to do anything.
 
Yes we really needed some of those Companies doing logistics work

30 Countries supported Bush, how many support Obama?


Obama is weak.

The world doesn't respect weakness!

Somebody should explain that fact to him!


Not blowing up Syria is wise, not weak.
Whom and what would you have Obama blow up in Syria to solve the problem?

9/11 was a completely different ballgame...so America's true allies rushed to assist in any way possbile.
 
30 Countries supported Bush, how many support Obama?


Obama is weak.

The world doesn't respect weakness!

Somebody should explain that fact to him!


Not blowing up Syria is wise, not weak.
Whom and what would you have Obama blow up in Syria to solve the problem?

9/11 was a completely different ballgame...so America's true allies rushed to assist in any way possbile.


Then he should put a sock in his mouth and don't talk about red lines! :mad:
 
Obama is weak.

The world doesn't respect weakness!

Somebody should explain that fact to him!


Not blowing up Syria is wise, not weak.
Whom and what would you have Obama blow up in Syria to solve the problem?

9/11 was a completely different ballgame...so America's true allies rushed to assist in any way possbile.


Then he should put a sock in his mouth and don't talk about red lines! :mad:


Sometimes it's tough being the big boss...everyone wanting you to say and do something to solve all the world's problems.
No doubt there are some in Washington who were/are urging him to attack Syria...Bill Clinton for example...reportedly called him a 'pussy' for not acting.
 
Obama is weak.

The world doesn't respect weakness!

Somebody should explain that fact to him!


Not blowing up Syria is wise, not weak.
Whom and what would you have Obama blow up in Syria to solve the problem?

9/11 was a completely different ballgame...so America's true allies rushed to assist in any way possbile.


Then he should put a sock in his mouth and don't talk about red lines! :mad:


But he had to pretend to be tough to win votes.

He had to lie. Him being reelected was for our own good.

#AllHailObama
 
Not blowing up Syria is wise, not weak.
Whom and what would you have Obama blow up in Syria to solve the problem?

9/11 was a completely different ballgame...so America's true allies rushed to assist in any way possbile.


Then he should put a sock in his mouth and don't talk about red lines! :mad:


But he had to pretend to be tough to win votes.

He had to lie. Him being reelected was for our own good.

#AllHailObama

its pathetic, even Assad's kid is making fun of obama. what an embarrasment to the USA this clown has become.
 
How many allies did we have for the invasion of Iraq?



  • NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
  • 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png
    United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
  • 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
    United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png
    Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Romania.svg.png
    Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
  • 23px-Flag_of_El_Salvador.svg.png
    El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Estonia.svg.png
    Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png
    Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Moldova.svg.png
    Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 21px-Flag_of_Albania.svg.png
    Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Ukraine.svg.png
    Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png
    Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg.png
    Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png
    South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png
    Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Tonga.svg.png
    Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Azerbaijan.svg.png
    Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Singapore.svg.png
    Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina.svg.png
    Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Macedonia.svg.png
    Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Latvia.svg.png
    Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.png
    Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Kazakhstan.svg.png
    Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Armenia.svg.png
    Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Mongolia.svg.png
    Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Georgia.svg.png
    Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)

  • 23px-Flag_of_Slovakia.svg.png
    Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Lithuania.svg.png
    Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png
    Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
  • 21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png
    Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png
    Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
  • 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png
    Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png
    Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
  • 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png
    New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Thailand.svg.png
    Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
  • 23px-Flag_of_the_Philippines.svg.png
    Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Honduras.svg.png
    Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
  • 23px-Flag_of_the_Dominican_Republic.svg.png
    Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png
    Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
  • 23px-Flag_of_Nicaragua.svg.png
    Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
  • 21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png
    Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)


Multi-National Force ? Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Any other questions?

Wow that is quite an impressive fighting force with most sending less than a Bn

Who is missing from that list? Canada? used to be our best ally
, France, Germany........you know, some of the biggest armies in the world

Where are they today?

It couldn't have anything to do with Obama selling out our European allies Poland and the Czech Republic to Russia:

The Obama administration will scrap the controversial missile defense shield program in Eastern Europe, a senior administration official confirmed to CNN Thursday.

<SNIP>

Poland and the Czech Republic had based much of their future security policy on getting the missile defenses from the United States. The countries share deep concerns of a future military threat from the east -- namely, Russia -- and may now look for other defense assurances from their NATO allies.

U.S. scraps missile defense shield plans - CNN.com

Lucky for them, they weren't blindsided by the decision, as Obama let it slip on an open mike before the election:
President Obama found his private moment of political candor caught by a live microphone on Monday as he told President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia that he would have &#8220;more flexibility&#8221; to negotiate on the delicate issue of missile defense after the November election, which Mr. Obama apparently feels confident he will win.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/u...one-telling-medvedev-of-flexibility.html?_r=0
 
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Then he should put a sock in his mouth and don't talk about red lines! :mad:


But he had to pretend to be tough to win votes.

He had to lie. Him being reelected was for our own good.

#AllHailObama

its pathetic, even Assad's kid is making fun of obama. what an embarrasment to the USA this clown has become.

Assasd's kid is eleven years old.

obama doubles down on stupid by attacking Cameron!!!!!

Ohhh that's going to help.
 
But he had to pretend to be tough to win votes.

He had to lie. Him being reelected was for our own good.

#AllHailObama

its pathetic, even Assad's kid is making fun of obama. what an embarrasment to the USA this clown has become.

Assasd's kid is eleven years old.

obama doubles down on stupid by attacking Cameron!!!!!

Ohhh that's going to help.


It just keeps getting worse. The guy is a total disaster and a clear and present danger to the survival of the USA.

Maybe Biden will follow through with his threat and tell the house to start impeachment proceedings. :cool:
 
Well, that's good to hear, either way.

I'm tired of Obama emasculating us. If anyone will still stand by us, I'm grateful to them. There is still the problem of Obama's lack of resolve to do anything effective. Is it better to do nothing and not actively create enemies, or to make a token effort because the U.S. has to take some kind of stand? I'm pissed that Obama has already said so much is off the table. But if the U.S. does nothing, that would be the worst of all. So vive la France.


In this case, IMHO, we are better off doing nothing.

Obama should make a face saving speech and try to pivot to something else as quickly as possible.


.....didn't Obama said he will do only something "symbolic"? Whatever that means....like...throwing some "symbolic" cruise missiles.....
What sort of war is that? I have never heard of something like that in my whole life!


It is absolutely ridiculous.

We need to ask two questions.

What is the risk?

What is the benefit?

The risk is possible all out war in the middle east.

The benefit is there is a possibility that a limited "symbolic" U.S. strike may deter future chemical weapon usage.

You put one of those two results on each side of the scale, and the result is apparent.

It is absolute foolishness to wager such a massive risk against such a meager benefit.
 
In this case, IMHO, we are better off doing nothing.

Obama should make a face saving speech and try to pivot to something else as quickly as possible.


.....didn't Obama said he will do only something "symbolic"? Whatever that means....like...throwing some "symbolic" cruise missiles.....
What sort of war is that? I have never heard of something like that in my whole life!


It is absolutely ridiculous.

We need to ask two questions.

What is the risk?

What is the benefit?

The risk is possible all out war in the middle east.

The benefit is there is a possibility that a limited "symbolic" U.S. strike may deter future chemical weapon usage.

You put one of those two results on each side of the scale, and the result is apparent.

It is absolute foolishness to wager such a massive risk against such a meager benefit.

reminds me of the discussion when Kennedy and Johnson were getting american kids killed for nothing in viet nam.

or the ones bush and obama are getting killed in iraq and afghanistan.
 
France is an ally but aside from saying " you go girl" they are unwilling to do anything.

Not so.

Libya crisis: Britain, France and US prepare for air strikes against Gaddafi | World news | theguardian.com

Libya crisis: Britain, France and US prepare for air strikes against Gaddafi

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Frenchie not stoopid...he looks at 'Syria' and baulks at blowing it up in any way.

So? One has no bearing on the other. Libya supplies almost all the oil they use. The Syrians well they're still sore over lhe whole lost colonial empire thing.
 
Many of the leaks about U.S. strike plans for Syria, a copious flow of surprisingly specific information on ship dispositions and possible targets, have been authorized as a way for President Obama to signal the limited scope of operations to friends and foes.


But a number of leaks have been decidedly unauthorized -- and, according to Obama administration sources, likely emanating from a Pentagon bureaucracy less enthusiastic about the prospect of an attack than, say, the State Department, National Security Council or Obama himself.


"Deeply unhelpful," was how one West Winger described the drip-drip of doubt.


"They need to shut the f--k up," said a former administration official. "It's embarrassing. Who ever heard this much talk before an attack? It's bizarre."


White House peeved at Pentagon leaks - POLITICO.com


A stunning lack of domestic allies as well...
 
How long will it take for the U.S. to recover from Obama's "leadership" on the world stage?


After British Vote, Unusual Isolation for U.S. on Syria

Obozo has, in some form or another in the last 5 years, insulted all of our allies. Maybe the next President will be able to repair the damage quickly, because of one simple thing: He/She is not Obozo. Or maybe it'll take years. Either way, we are now a laughing stock on the world stage thanks to Bozo the Prez.
 
But he had to pretend to be tough to win votes.

He had to lie. Him being reelected was for our own good.

#AllHailObama

its pathetic, even Assad's kid is making fun of obama. what an embarrasment to the USA this clown has become.

Assasd's kid is eleven years old.

obama doubles down on stupid by attacking Cameron!!!!!

Ohhh that's going to help.
Attacking one of our oldest allies...that's Bozo the Prez for ya!
 
How many allies did we have for the invasion of Iraq?

At least this many.

Multi-National Force ? Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion&#8212;2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)
 
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