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Exactly. Nobody is DEMANDING we respect you for "cheating" on your spouse. People still feel rightful shame over adultery and they keep it to themselves making no DEMAND on others for acceptanceThat's not moral relativism though. Moral relativism has to do with the nature of morality itself. Moral relativism is the view that morality is relative to either an individual or one's culture.
Also, since you brought it up, the reason why you don't see Christians on the street preaching against those other things is because nearly everyone already knows those other things are wrong... Whereas with LGBT, society has been taught that not only is it not wrong, but it's something to take pride in and celebrate.
Im not sure that the battle against dishonesty or adultery has been won. It is more like they are not seen as much of a problem.That's not moral relativism though. Moral relativism has to do with the nature of morality itself. Moral relativism is the view that morality is relative to either an individual or one's culture.
Also, since you brought it up, the reason why you don't see Christians on the street preaching against those other things is because nearly everyone already knows those other things are wrong... Whereas with LGBT, society has been taught that not only is it not wrong, but it's something to take pride in and celebrate.
Our retreat from Christianity doesnât mean weâve lost our sense of morality | Kenan Malik
Those who moan that we’re losing our religion are quick to demonise the most vulnerablewww.theguardian.com
Yet the history of Christianity itself shows that it is not belief in God that defines our moral values but our moral values that shape the way we think about God. Christians (like those of many faiths) once enslaved fellow human beings, burned witches and killed adulterers, believing such practices to have divine sanction. Few Christians today would regard such practices as morally acceptable. Not because God has changed his mind but because humans have.
Collective social struggle – from campaigns to abolish slavery to battles for women’s rights – have been underpinned by moral considerations while becoming also the source of moral development. Such struggles have transformed our moral universe, and in so doing transformed, also, what believers imagine God deems to be good.
I cant see how this can be argued with.The people who campaigned aganst slavery may have been Christians but they were also good people who recognised it as evil.
It was their personal morality rather than any shift in the attitude of the churvh.
Life is generally better now that it was a century,or 2 centuries, back. But that is because we are better people rather than a shift in faith.
You could argue that art is more influential than the church in this.
Th only requests made on you is that you act in a civil way. Nobody majes demands.Exactly. Nobody is DEMANDING we respect you for "cheating" on your spouse. People still feel rightful shame over adultery and they keep it to themselves making no DEMAND on others for acceptance
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality
That's not moral relativism though. Moral relativism has to do with the nature of morality itself. Moral relativism is the view that morality is relative to either an individual or one's culture.
Also, since you brought it up, the reason why you don't see Christians on the street preaching against those other things is because nearly everyone already knows those other things are wrong... Whereas with LGBT, society has been taught that not only is it not wrong, but it's something to take pride in and celebrate.
If you think the Bible condemnation of gays has weight and you don't when it comes to adultery or divorce, then you are exercising moral relativism. It is that simple.
pbs did a great series on writing, very recently. it seems that they can trace all alphabets, even chinese and sanskrit to a philistine quarry, and then back to egypt hieroglyphic.I’m fascinated with two eras of human history. When we started having laws And when we first formalized our languages with alphabets. Way back. Who invented our alphabet? When? We should know this. Fuck Christopher Columbus. And who wrote the first Old Testament? When?
So every society saw this first and it was explained to them it was an alphabet of someone elses language. So other people came up with their own versions. Thanks.pbs did a great series on writing, very recently. it seems that they can trace all alphabets, even chinese and sanskrit to a philistine quarry, and then back to egypt hieroglyphic.
this was in 3 or 4 several parts and is seriously informative. i'm going to watch again so maybe i can understand.So every society saw this first and it was explained to them it was an alphabet of someone elses language. So other people came up with their own versions. Thanks.
this one is the 3 minute trauler that answers how the letters evolved (does not reqyure sign in)So every society saw this first and it was explained to them it was an alphabet of someone elses language. So other people came up with their own versions. Thanks.
That's not what I said at all, not even close. You completely misunderstood. Please re-read my previous post.
BOTH are wrong according to the Bible. My point (again) is that unlike homosexuality, people are not claiming that adultery is OK, people are not out there having parades claiming adultery is something to take pride in, it is generally considered wrong, not just among Christians but among people in general. So that's why you don't see Christians on the street focusing on that sin, because (again) nearly everyone already knows it is wrong. Homosexuality is an entirely different story.
Since half of American adults are divorced and polling suggests 20% of America cheats on their spouse, your assertion that nearly everyone knows it is wrong does not comport with reality. What nearly everyone does do is come up with their own rules for thee but not for me version of morality so they can sit on their high horse and feel better about themselves . I guess they skipped that part of the Bible about God resisting the proud, but giving grace unto the humble. I guess it was too far away from the begatting porn for people to notice.
i like to think it's entirely possible for God to change His mind about things just before, or around the same time, as His believers do.Our retreat from Christianity doesnât mean weâve lost our sense of morality | Kenan Malik
Those who moan that we’re losing our religion are quick to demonise the most vulnerable
Yet the history of Christianity itself shows that it is not belief in God that defines our moral values but our moral values that shape the way we think about God. Christians (like those of many faiths) once enslaved fellow human beings, burned witches and killed adulterers, believing such practices to have divine sanction. Few Christians today would regard such practices as morally acceptable. Not because God has changed his mind but because humans have.
Collective social struggle – from campaigns to abolish slavery to battles for women’s rights – have been underpinned by moral considerations while becoming also the source of moral development. Such struggles have transformed our moral universe, and in so doing transformed, also, what believers imagine God deems to be good.
I cant see how this can be argued with.The people who campaigned aganst slavery may have been Christians but they were also good people who recognised it as evil.
It was their personal morality rather than any shift in the attitude of the churvh.
Life is generally better now that it was a century,or 2 centuries, back. But that is because we are better people rather than a shift in faith.
You could argue that art is more influential than the church in this.
Please get a grip. You're thinking about a non-existent entity.i like to think it's entirely possible for God to change His mind about things just before, or around the same time, as His believers do.
He's very real in my world. And in the worlds of many others too.Please get a grip. You're thinking about a non-existent entity.
No matter which way it does it still doesn't stop humans from being assholes.
Our retreat from Christianity doesnât mean weâve lost our sense of morality | Kenan Malik
Those who moan that we’re losing our religion are quick to demonise the most vulnerable
Yet the history of Christianity itself shows that it is not belief in God that defines our moral values but our moral values that shape the way we think about God. Christians (like those of many faiths) once enslaved fellow human beings, burned witches and killed adulterers, believing such practices to have divine sanction. Few Christians today would regard such practices as morally acceptable. Not because God has changed his mind but because humans have.
Collective social struggle – from campaigns to abolish slavery to battles for women’s rights – have been underpinned by moral considerations while becoming also the source of moral development. Such struggles have transformed our moral universe, and in so doing transformed, also, what believers imagine God deems to be good.
I cant see how this can be argued with.The people who campaigned aganst slavery may have been Christians but they were also good people who recognised it as evil.
It was their personal morality rather than any shift in the attitude of the churvh.
Life is generally better now that it was a century,or 2 centuries, back. But that is because we are better people rather than a shift in faith.
You could argue that art is more influential than the church in this.
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