Does Isreal build on deeded land for"illegal settelements ?

[P F Tinmore]

You made the claim it is your obligation to prove it.

Israeli occupation date May 13, 1948
Distance from district center 14 (km) North East of Gaza
Elevation from the sea 50 (meters)
Map location See location number #42 on the map
Israeli military operation Operation Barak
Israeli attacking brigade Negev Brigade
Exodus Cause Expulsion by Jewish troops
Village remains after destruction by Israelis The village has been completely defaced
Ethnically cleansing by Israelis Najd inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.

Najd*-*نجد*

On 13 May, 1948, Najd was occupied by Jewish soldiers from the Negev Brigade as part of Operation Barak.[5] The inhabitants were expelled and fled to Gaza, and the village was then completely destroyed and leveled to the ground. In 1951, the town of Sderot was built over the village lands.

According to Benny Morris, the villagers of Najd were "driven out" by soldiers from the Negev Brigade on 12-13 May

Najd, Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1918548-post12.html

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[Kalam]

from your favorite site.

Najd, Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Israeli occupation date May 13, 1948
Distance from district center 14 (km) North East of Gaza
Elevation from the sea 50 (meters)
Map location See location number #42 on the map
Israeli military operation Operation Barak
Israeli attacking brigade Negev Brigade
Exodus Cause Expulsion by Jewish troops
Village remains after destruction by Israelis The village has been completely defaced
Ethnically cleansing by Israelis Najd inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed.

Najd*-*نجد*

On 13 May, 1948, Najd was occupied by Jewish soldiers from the Negev Brigade as part of Operation Barak.[5] The inhabitants were expelled and fled to Gaza, and the village was then completely destroyed and leveled to the ground. In 1951, the town of Sderot was built over the village lands.

According to Benny Morris, the villagers of Najd were "driven out" by soldiers from the Negev Brigade on 12-13 May

Najd, Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1918548-post12.html

Do you have a question?

What you cant find your own lie?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

from your favorite site.

Najd, Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Right in your owe face?

 

[Kalam]

from your favorite site.

Najd, Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Right in your owe face?

My "owe face" indeed. Was there something you wanted to say?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Right in your owe face?

My "owe face" indeed. Was there something you wanted to say?

The land was ceased during aggression, why cant they hold it?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Right in your owe face?

My "owe face" indeed. Was there something you wanted to say?

The land was ceased during aggression, why cant thet hold it?

Could you clarify your point?

 

[Kalam]

Right in your owe face?

My "owe face" indeed. Was there something you wanted to say?

The land was ceased during aggression, why cant thet hold it?

English, please.

 

[P F Tinmore]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1918548-post12.html

Do you have a question?

What you cant find your own lie?

What lie?

 

[Toronado3800]

This holy land thing is one big 2,000 plus year circle of "I was here firsts".

If Islam doesn't catch up to the 17th century pretty soon and learn to play nice with civilians in the rest of the world then they'll continue to find little support.

Even if the "average" white supremacist in Alabama or Berlin hates Jews he has more hatred for folks who hijack his country's airplanes.

SO, he likely views a world with a strong Israel and a number of weak broken Muslim countries as a safer place.

Heck, if he's pragmatic he'll figure out that keeping Israel in place and "attackable" gives Muslims something to do besides attack Americans.

So I say "whatever" to Palestinian claims on land. Perhaps a few more years of Islamic genetic engineering will lead to the premature death by suicide bombing of the true believers and create a culture of cowards.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Do you have a question?

What you cant find your own lie?

What lie?

Israel attacked Najd before the war of 1948 driving the indigenous population out of their homes and off their land.
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[P F Tinmore]

What you cant find your own lie?

What lie?

Israel attacked Najd before the war of 1948 driving the indigenous population out of their homes and off their land.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1918548-post12.html

The only thing I said that was inaccurate, but not necessarily a lie, was that "Israel attacked Najd" when the fact was that Israel did not exist yet. Later, when the invading foreigners declared themselves to be a state, the name changed but it was the same people.

There is an agreed history between Israel and Palestine. Israeli documents say that the attack on Najd was May 12-13, 1948. Palestine gives the occupation date as May 13, 1948. They both claim the attack was by the Negev Brigade during Operation Barak.

Operation Barak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You will notice that this attack, and many more like it, transpired before May 15, 1948 when Israel declared itself to be a state and had to "defend itself" from neighboring states.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Yeah Ok that is good information , Both sides have a point
Thanks. can we get to the issue of the here and now of the OP?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yeah Ok that is good information , Both sides have a point
Thanks. can we get to the issue of the here and now of the OP?

I don't think Israel gives a rat's behind about deeds or original ownership. If a Palestinian challenges Israel's theft, it merely slows them down a little bit. They take it anyway.

Surely it was not an issue when they stole Najd or the hundreds of other Palestinian villages they attacked. They attacked Najd, threw the people out and built the settlement of Sderot on the remains.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Yeah Ok that is good information , Both sides have a point
Thanks. can we get to the issue of the here and now of the OP?

I don't think Israel gives a rat's behind about deeds or original ownership. If a Palestinian challenges Israel's theft, it merely slows them down a little bit. They take it anyway.

Surely it was not an issue when they stole Najd or the hundreds of other Palestinian villages they attacked. They attacked Najd, threw the people out and built the settlement of Sderot on the remains.

Considering the times failing to prepare for warfare would have been foolish the tactics made sense.
At this point in time, before anything is built the Israel government goes through extensive research to find ownership of lands before build goes on.
Yes or no?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yeah Ok that is good information , Both sides have a point
Thanks. can we get to the issue of the here and now of the OP?

I don't think Israel gives a rat's behind about deeds or original ownership. If a Palestinian challenges Israel's theft, it merely slows them down a little bit. They take it anyway.

Surely it was not an issue when they stole Najd or the hundreds of other Palestinian villages they attacked. They attacked Najd, threw the people out and built the settlement of Sderot on the remains.

Considering the times failing to prepare for warfare would have been foolish the tactics made sense.
At this point in time, before anything is built the Israel government goes through extensive research to find ownership of lands before build goes on.
Yes or no?

Israel has the guns and bulldozers. I don't think deeds are any of their concern.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Thanks.
The Illegal-Settlements Myth

 

[P F Tinmore]

Thanks.
The Illegal-Settlements Myth

This person states that Israel won the West Bank from Jordan and Gaza from Egypt. He did not state how Jordan and Egypt got this land to lose.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Thanks.
The Illegal-Settlements Myth

This person states that Israel won the West Bank from Jordan and Gaza from Egypt. He did not state how Jordan and Egypt got this land to lose.

Well that is a matter of record isnt it?

]The land has been occupied for time before the advent of Islam.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Thanks.
The Illegal-Settlements Myth

This person states that Israel won the West Bank from Jordan and Gaza from Egypt. He did not state how Jordan and Egypt got this land to lose.

Well that is a matter of record isnt it?

]The land has been occupied for time before the advent of Islam.

Egypt occupied Gaza. The Palestinians did nor cede any land to Egypt. Egypt never won any land as there was no war between Egypt and Palestine.

The same for Jordan.

Hence Israel merely won occupation. They won no land.

That is why Israel merely occupies Gaza and the West Bank.