Does God Exist?

[esalla]

And that's what keeps you from seeking a relationship with the Creator?

No, I'm just curious if there is anything like a consensus among Christians?

Why should there be? Humans are subjective.

When you are ready for an honest discussion, let me know

Humans are subjective, but I thought God was objective. Or at least eternal and consistent. There's only one heaven and one hell, right?

I'm only asking for information, I have no counter to the Christian view of the afterlife. I'm not a believer but I just want to know what people think is coming.

My perception of God would be like an ant's perception of us. It just isn't possible to fully wrap our minds around. So my answer to your questions are based upon my sincerest effort to answer the question of origin and fully explore the possibility of mind creating the material world. It's probably not something you have ever seriously or honestly tried to do before and is the reason you are biased against the possibility of mind creating the material world.

The closest I can come to God is infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love which are eternal and unchanging. We know that things like logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love exist. To complete the spectrum we know the absence of those things exist as well but are not extant. So I start from the extant to describe what I believe mind to be like.

So I don't see how God could be anything but objective and if there is something which argues against this, then it is the argument itself which is in error. For instance, bad acts of men would be an illogical argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love existing. The material world is not perfect. It's full of all kinds of defects. It is the nature of the material world. To argue there is no such thing as infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love because the material world has defects doesn't make sense.

I don't know what heaven and hell is. File that as another thing we can't wrap our minds around. The closest I can can come to perceiving heaven and hell is either being eternally united or separated from infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love. I have a notion that the separation would feel like torture to us as the spirit of infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love is withdrawn from us. Some people don't realize what they have until it is taken away from them. As to the concept of reward and punishment, we can look at our own experiences as a proxy to know that reward and punishment are well founded in human behavior. But another thing is also there.... forgiveness. So it is not necessarily a binary decision. So the question of heaven and hell or reward and punishment is founded in logic but it shouldn't even enter into our calculus of how we behave (be, exist, being, etc.). So I can't understand how anyone would use heaven and hell as an argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love.

You say you are only asking for information, but my perception is that you are looking for confirmation. Confirmation of your beliefs. Why else would you care about reconciling Christian beliefs with the origin question? You are just looking for excuses not to do your own honest investigation into the origin of existence. The origin of logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love.

What does it matter what other people believe is coming? Why is that important? How does it change your thinking or your decisions?

No one is ever going to read all of that

Can you wrap your mind around that?

That's their problem.

I read all of it. Thank you.

Why?

read it and find out

Read what and find out what? I already know ding is a schizzo

I have to question your God-like powers now. You don't even recall what you posted just a few minutes ago? And you diagnose others as "schizzo"?

Frannie is a troll. A rather ordinary one at that.

Did you get your Nobel prize yet

 

[ding]

Shut up Frannie.

Look ding dong, we all know that you are frustrated, this is why you need to take all of your meds

I like how you answered to Frannie.

I am not esalla, or frannie

However you still need your meds

Right, your screen name just says esalla and you replied to a post directed to Frannie.

The board is aware that I was frannie.

Now what ding dong

You are dismissed.

 

[ding]

And that's what keeps you from seeking a relationship with the Creator?

No, I'm just curious if there is anything like a consensus among Christians?

Why should there be? Humans are subjective.

When you are ready for an honest discussion, let me know

Humans are subjective, but I thought God was objective. Or at least eternal and consistent. There's only one heaven and one hell, right?

I'm only asking for information, I have no counter to the Christian view of the afterlife. I'm not a believer but I just want to know what people think is coming.

My perception of God would be like an ant's perception of us. It just isn't possible to fully wrap our minds around. So my answer to your questions are based upon my sincerest effort to answer the question of origin and fully explore the possibility of mind creating the material world. It's probably not something you have ever seriously or honestly tried to do before and is the reason you are biased against the possibility of mind creating the material world.

The closest I can come to God is infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love which are eternal and unchanging. We know that things like logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love exist. To complete the spectrum we know the absence of those things exist as well but are not extant. So I start from the extant to describe what I believe mind to be like.

So I don't see how God could be anything but objective and if there is something which argues against this, then it is the argument itself which is in error. For instance, bad acts of men would be an illogical argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love existing. The material world is not perfect. It's full of all kinds of defects. It is the nature of the material world. To argue there is no such thing as infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love because the material world has defects doesn't make sense.

I don't know what heaven and hell is. File that as another thing we can't wrap our minds around. The closest I can can come to perceiving heaven and hell is either being eternally united or separated from infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love. I have a notion that the separation would feel like torture to us as the spirit of infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love is withdrawn from us. Some people don't realize what they have until it is taken away from them. As to the concept of reward and punishment, we can look at our own experiences as a proxy to know that reward and punishment are well founded in human behavior. But another thing is also there.... forgiveness. So it is not necessarily a binary decision. So the question of heaven and hell or reward and punishment is founded in logic but it shouldn't even enter into our calculus of how we behave (be, exist, being, etc.). So I can't understand how anyone would use heaven and hell as an argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love.

You say you are only asking for information, but my perception is that you are looking for confirmation. Confirmation of your beliefs. Why else would you care about reconciling Christian beliefs with the origin question? You are just looking for excuses not to do your own honest investigation into the origin of existence. The origin of logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love.

What does it matter what other people believe is coming? Why is that important? How does it change your thinking or your decisions?

No one is ever going to read all of that

Can you wrap your mind around that?

That's their problem.

I read all of it. Thank you.

Why?

read it and find out

Read what and find out what? I already know ding is a schizzo

I have to question your God-like powers now. You don't even recall what you posted just a few minutes ago? And you diagnose others as "schizzo"?

Frannie is a troll. A rather ordinary one at that.

Did you get your Nobel prize yet

Not expecting one, Frannie.

I can tell I am in your head the way you are following me. You need closure.

 

[esalla]

That consciousness created the material world. The evidence for such is creation itself. Which you have never seriously considered.

This falls into my agnostic zone, maybe it did, maybe it didn't. And it is not that I've never considered it, it's that you've just never given me enough to believe it.

Well... if it did then you shouldn't have a problem with consciousness existing after death. Which seems to be saying that you aren't agnostic about consciousness creating the material world.

The reality is that the only solution to what came first has to be "something" which is beyond energy and matter or "no thing." Is any of this ringing a bell because you have never been able to refute this logic which by the way is based upon science.

Consciousness ends when the electrical activity of the brain ends, which does not end when the heart stops

I can demonstrate on you if you choose

 

[esalla]

And that's what keeps you from seeking a relationship with the Creator?

No, I'm just curious if there is anything like a consensus among Christians?

Why should there be? Humans are subjective.

When you are ready for an honest discussion, let me know

Humans are subjective, but I thought God was objective. Or at least eternal and consistent. There's only one heaven and one hell, right?

I'm only asking for information, I have no counter to the Christian view of the afterlife. I'm not a believer but I just want to know what people think is coming.

My perception of God would be like an ant's perception of us. It just isn't possible to fully wrap our minds around. So my answer to your questions are based upon my sincerest effort to answer the question of origin and fully explore the possibility of mind creating the material world. It's probably not something you have ever seriously or honestly tried to do before and is the reason you are biased against the possibility of mind creating the material world.

The closest I can come to God is infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love which are eternal and unchanging. We know that things like logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love exist. To complete the spectrum we know the absence of those things exist as well but are not extant. So I start from the extant to describe what I believe mind to be like.

So I don't see how God could be anything but objective and if there is something which argues against this, then it is the argument itself which is in error. For instance, bad acts of men would be an illogical argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love existing. The material world is not perfect. It's full of all kinds of defects. It is the nature of the material world. To argue there is no such thing as infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love because the material world has defects doesn't make sense.

I don't know what heaven and hell is. File that as another thing we can't wrap our minds around. The closest I can can come to perceiving heaven and hell is either being eternally united or separated from infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love. I have a notion that the separation would feel like torture to us as the spirit of infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love is withdrawn from us. Some people don't realize what they have until it is taken away from them. As to the concept of reward and punishment, we can look at our own experiences as a proxy to know that reward and punishment are well founded in human behavior. But another thing is also there.... forgiveness. So it is not necessarily a binary decision. So the question of heaven and hell or reward and punishment is founded in logic but it shouldn't even enter into our calculus of how we behave (be, exist, being, etc.). So I can't understand how anyone would use heaven and hell as an argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love.

You say you are only asking for information, but my perception is that you are looking for confirmation. Confirmation of your beliefs. Why else would you care about reconciling Christian beliefs with the origin question? You are just looking for excuses not to do your own honest investigation into the origin of existence. The origin of logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love.

What does it matter what other people believe is coming? Why is that important? How does it change your thinking or your decisions?

No one is ever going to read all of that

Can you wrap your mind around that?

That's their problem.

I read all of it. Thank you.

Why?

read it and find out

Read what and find out what? I already know ding is a schizzo

I have to question your God-like powers now. You don't even recall what you posted just a few minutes ago? And you diagnose others as "schizzo"?

Frannie is a troll. A rather ordinary one at that.

Did you get your Nobel prize yet

Not expecting one, Frannie.

I can tell I am in your head the way you are following me. You need closure.

Delusions of Grandeur: How to Spot Them

www.healthline.com

What Are Delusions of Grandeur?

• Types
• Identifying them
• Getting help
• Takeaway

Overview
A delusion is a false belief held by a person. It contradicts reality or what is commonly considered true. The strength of a delusion is based on how much the person believes it.
Specifically, a delusion of grandeur is a person’s belief that they are someone other than who they are, such as a supernatural figure or a celebrity. A delusion of grandeur may also be a belief that they have special abilities, possessions, or powers.
Delusions are generally the result of a mental health disorder. However, not all people with delusions meet the full diagnostic criteria for any mental health disorder.
Many types of mental health disorders classified as psychotic disorders can lead to delusions. These include:

• schizophrenia
• bipolar disorder
• dementia
• delirium
• major depressive disorder with psychotic features

Psychotic disorders can change a person’s sense of reality. They may be unable to tell what is real and what is not.
Types of delusions of grandeur

Any delusion has four main characteristics:

1. The person having the belief believes it to be true, even when the existing norm and other people know it to be untrue.
2. The person having the delusion will not listen to any other viewpoints about the belief and will not consider change when evidence challenges the delusion.
3. The content of the delusion is impossible or implausible.
4. The delusion impacts the person’s daily life.

Delusions of grandeur can take many forms, such as beliefs of:
Having a special ability, object, or talent
The person with the delusion may believe that they have a secret talent, object, or ability that no one else has or even knows about. For example, they may believe they possess a secret record from Elvis Presley that no one else knows about.
Being a famous person
A person with a delusion of grandeur may actually believe that they are a famous person and that the real famous person is an imposter or decoy.
Having a secret connection
This delusion involves believing in a special and sometimes secret connection or relationship with someone or something important. For example, a person with this delusion of grandeur may believe they are a spy or that they alone are responsible for relaying messages to the president or other world leaders.
Religious grandeur
A person with a religious-themed delusion of grandeur may believe that they are a religious leader.



How to spot them

Delusions of grandeur can be difficult to identify because the person having them believes the delusion to be true. Also, delusions can be hard to distinguish from what is called an “overvalued idea,” or a belief a person has that isn’t totally accurate, but isn’t exactly a delusion, either. One studyTrusted Source used the example of gambling — if a person is a regular gambler, they probably believe they have an ability that allows them to win. But this is generally not considered a delusion of grandeur.
The key marker of delusions of grandeur is that they are not tied to a person’s experience. So, a person who regularly gambles and believes he is close to winning, even if he’s not, isn’t necessarily delusional. This is because the belief is tied to the action.
A delusion, on the other hand, is usually not related to anything happening in life at the moment. A delusion of grandeur would be more like a belief you can fly or that you are secretly the star of a reality TV show.
A delusion of grandeur is easier to spot if it occurs with other mental health symptoms. Delusions of grandeur are more common with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. If a person has a history of bipolar disorder and has had delusional thoughts in the past, delusions are more likely to happen again.
In some cases, delusions can also be brought on or intensified by the use of substances such as alcohol or marijuana.
Also keep watch for the effects the belief has on the person’s life. If the false belief is so great that it has changed how the person lives life or performs daily activities, it could be a delusion.

 

[ding]

That consciousness created the material world. The evidence for such is creation itself. Which you have never seriously considered.

This falls into my agnostic zone, maybe it did, maybe it didn't. And it is not that I've never considered it, it's that you've just never given me enough to believe it.

Well... if it did then you shouldn't have a problem with consciousness existing after death. Which seems to be saying that you aren't agnostic about consciousness creating the material world.

The reality is that the only solution to what came first has to be "something" which is beyond energy and matter or "no thing." Is any of this ringing a bell because you have never been able to refute this logic which by the way is based upon science.

Consciousness ends when the electrical activity of the brain ends, which does not end when the heart stops

I can demonstrate on you if you choose

So you hope.

You are more than welcome to try, Frannie.

 

[ding]

And that's what keeps you from seeking a relationship with the Creator?

No, I'm just curious if there is anything like a consensus among Christians?

Why should there be? Humans are subjective.

When you are ready for an honest discussion, let me know

Humans are subjective, but I thought God was objective. Or at least eternal and consistent. There's only one heaven and one hell, right?

I'm only asking for information, I have no counter to the Christian view of the afterlife. I'm not a believer but I just want to know what people think is coming.

My perception of God would be like an ant's perception of us. It just isn't possible to fully wrap our minds around. So my answer to your questions are based upon my sincerest effort to answer the question of origin and fully explore the possibility of mind creating the material world. It's probably not something you have ever seriously or honestly tried to do before and is the reason you are biased against the possibility of mind creating the material world.

The closest I can come to God is infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love which are eternal and unchanging. We know that things like logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love exist. To complete the spectrum we know the absence of those things exist as well but are not extant. So I start from the extant to describe what I believe mind to be like.

So I don't see how God could be anything but objective and if there is something which argues against this, then it is the argument itself which is in error. For instance, bad acts of men would be an illogical argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love existing. The material world is not perfect. It's full of all kinds of defects. It is the nature of the material world. To argue there is no such thing as infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love because the material world has defects doesn't make sense.

I don't know what heaven and hell is. File that as another thing we can't wrap our minds around. The closest I can can come to perceiving heaven and hell is either being eternally united or separated from infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love. I have a notion that the separation would feel like torture to us as the spirit of infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love is withdrawn from us. Some people don't realize what they have until it is taken away from them. As to the concept of reward and punishment, we can look at our own experiences as a proxy to know that reward and punishment are well founded in human behavior. But another thing is also there.... forgiveness. So it is not necessarily a binary decision. So the question of heaven and hell or reward and punishment is founded in logic but it shouldn't even enter into our calculus of how we behave (be, exist, being, etc.). So I can't understand how anyone would use heaven and hell as an argument against infinite logic, infinite truth, infinite goodness, infinite beauty and infinite love.

You say you are only asking for information, but my perception is that you are looking for confirmation. Confirmation of your beliefs. Why else would you care about reconciling Christian beliefs with the origin question? You are just looking for excuses not to do your own honest investigation into the origin of existence. The origin of logic, truth, goodness, beauty and love.

What does it matter what other people believe is coming? Why is that important? How does it change your thinking or your decisions?

No one is ever going to read all of that

Can you wrap your mind around that?

That's their problem.

I read all of it. Thank you.

Why?

read it and find out

Read what and find out what? I already know ding is a schizzo

I have to question your God-like powers now. You don't even recall what you posted just a few minutes ago? And you diagnose others as "schizzo"?

Frannie is a troll. A rather ordinary one at that.

Did you get your Nobel prize yet

Not expecting one, Frannie.

I can tell I am in your head the way you are following me. You need closure.

Delusions of Grandeur: How to Spot Them

www.healthline.com

What Are Delusions of Grandeur?

• Types
• Identifying them
• Getting help
• Takeaway

Overview
A delusion is a false belief held by a person. It contradicts reality or what is commonly considered true. The strength of a delusion is based on how much the person believes it.
Specifically, a delusion of grandeur is a person’s belief that they are someone other than who they are, such as a supernatural figure or a celebrity. A delusion of grandeur may also be a belief that they have special abilities, possessions, or powers.
Delusions are generally the result of a mental health disorder. However, not all people with delusions meet the full diagnostic criteria for any mental health disorder.
Many types of mental health disorders classified as psychotic disorders can lead to delusions. These include:

• schizophrenia
• bipolar disorder
• dementia
• delirium
• major depressive disorder with psychotic features

Psychotic disorders can change a person’s sense of reality. They may be unable to tell what is real and what is not.
Types of delusions of grandeur

Any delusion has four main characteristics:

1. The person having the belief believes it to be true, even when the existing norm and other people know it to be untrue.
2. The person having the delusion will not listen to any other viewpoints about the belief and will not consider change when evidence challenges the delusion.
3. The content of the delusion is impossible or implausible.
4. The delusion impacts the person’s daily life.

Delusions of grandeur can take many forms, such as beliefs of:
Having a special ability, object, or talent
The person with the delusion may believe that they have a secret talent, object, or ability that no one else has or even knows about. For example, they may believe they possess a secret record from Elvis Presley that no one else knows about.
Being a famous person
A person with a delusion of grandeur may actually believe that they are a famous person and that the real famous person is an imposter or decoy.
Having a secret connection
This delusion involves believing in a special and sometimes secret connection or relationship with someone or something important. For example, a person with this delusion of grandeur may believe they are a spy or that they alone are responsible for relaying messages to the president or other world leaders.
Religious grandeur
A person with a religious-themed delusion of grandeur may believe that they are a religious leader.



How to spot them

Delusions of grandeur can be difficult to identify because the person having them believes the delusion to be true. Also, delusions can be hard to distinguish from what is called an “overvalued idea,” or a belief a person has that isn’t totally accurate, but isn’t exactly a delusion, either. One studyTrusted Source used the example of gambling — if a person is a regular gambler, they probably believe they have an ability that allows them to win. But this is generally not considered a delusion of grandeur.
The key marker of delusions of grandeur is that they are not tied to a person’s experience. So, a person who regularly gambles and believes he is close to winning, even if he’s not, isn’t necessarily delusional. This is because the belief is tied to the action.
A delusion, on the other hand, is usually not related to anything happening in life at the moment. A delusion of grandeur would be more like a belief you can fly or that you are secretly the star of a reality TV show.
A delusion of grandeur is easier to spot if it occurs with other mental health symptoms. Delusions of grandeur are more common with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. If a person has a history of bipolar disorder and has had delusional thoughts in the past, delusions are more likely to happen again.
In some cases, delusions can also be brought on or intensified by the use of substances such as alcohol or marijuana.
Also keep watch for the effects the belief has on the person’s life. If the false belief is so great that it has changed how the person lives life or performs daily activities, it could be a delusion.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, Frannie.

 

[esalla]

That consciousness created the material world. The evidence for such is creation itself. Which you have never seriously considered.

This falls into my agnostic zone, maybe it did, maybe it didn't. And it is not that I've never considered it, it's that you've just never given me enough to believe it.

Well... if it did then you shouldn't have a problem with consciousness existing after death. Which seems to be saying that you aren't agnostic about consciousness creating the material world.

The reality is that the only solution to what came first has to be "something" which is beyond energy and matter or "no thing." Is any of this ringing a bell because you have never been able to refute this logic which by the way is based upon science.

Consciousness ends when the electrical activity of the brain ends, which does not end when the heart stops

I can demonstrate on you if you choose

So you hope.

You are more than welcome to try, Frannie.

Actually you are obsessed with Frannie.

Lie back on the couch and tell us what Frannie did to you

 

[ding]

That consciousness created the material world. The evidence for such is creation itself. Which you have never seriously considered.

This falls into my agnostic zone, maybe it did, maybe it didn't. And it is not that I've never considered it, it's that you've just never given me enough to believe it.

Well... if it did then you shouldn't have a problem with consciousness existing after death. Which seems to be saying that you aren't agnostic about consciousness creating the material world.

The reality is that the only solution to what came first has to be "something" which is beyond energy and matter or "no thing." Is any of this ringing a bell because you have never been able to refute this logic which by the way is based upon science.

Consciousness ends when the electrical activity of the brain ends, which does not end when the heart stops

I can demonstrate on you if you choose

So you hope.

You are more than welcome to try, Frannie.

Actually you are obsessed with Frannie.

Lie back on the couch and tell us what Frannie did to you

 

[ding]

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

[BreezeWood]

The universe made all the ingredients. Supernovas...

That's impossible. The universe is too complex.

Everything in the universe is a product of the Big Bang, and the evolution of the universe afterwards.

Then why can the point of the big bang not be traced back to the beginning.

LOL there was no universe, then nothing just decided to explode into something

Do you really claim that this is science

.

Then why can the point of the big bang not be traced back to the beginning.

LOL there was no universe, then nothing just decided to explode into something

Do you really claim that this is science

.
bb is cyclical, the nothing was compressed energy reverting to matter.

LOL you better tell the professors ranting that time and space did not exist until the big bang.

Also for that theory to hold water the current state of the universe should not be in speeding expansion which precludes any reversing cycle

Play on

130

.

Also for that theory to hold water the current state of the universe should not be in speeding expansion which precludes any reversing cycle

.
matter is expanding by a trajectory of a finite angle that will return all matter at the same time to the origin without ever changing direction to recompress to create a new moment of singularity.

Actually the universe is observed in a speeding expansion of which the end result is the opposite of your babble. You are referring to the big crunch which requires that the explosion loses energy, yet the expansion is gaining energy.

Please try to keep up agent Y, you are making your group look sad

And you know that this will stay like that forever? How?

The universe is not effected by any human perception correct or otherwise.

But you know that life came to the Earth in an asteroid pond

.

But you know that life came to the Earth in an asteroid pond

.
irregardless, life will appear wherever conditions are favorable throughout the universe.

first form of life - the elements of the periodic table -
.

.
the elements create molecules -

.
molecules form compounds -

.
compounds together form the first physiological tissue / single cell -

.
simple azalea - physiology is a metaphysical substance that will appear wherever conditions are favorable in the universe and has an inseparable spiritual content that if removed will cause the physiology to disappear.

 

[esalla]

The universe made all the ingredients. Supernovas...

That's impossible. The universe is too complex.

Everything in the universe is a product of the Big Bang, and the evolution of the universe afterwards.

Then why can the point of the big bang not be traced back to the beginning.

LOL there was no universe, then nothing just decided to explode into something

Do you really claim that this is science

.

Then why can the point of the big bang not be traced back to the beginning.

LOL there was no universe, then nothing just decided to explode into something

Do you really claim that this is science

.
bb is cyclical, the nothing was compressed energy reverting to matter.

LOL you better tell the professors ranting that time and space did not exist until the big bang.

Also for that theory to hold water the current state of the universe should not be in speeding expansion which precludes any reversing cycle

Play on

130

.

Also for that theory to hold water the current state of the universe should not be in speeding expansion which precludes any reversing cycle

.
matter is expanding by a trajectory of a finite angle that will return all matter at the same time to the origin without ever changing direction to recompress to create a new moment of singularity.

Actually the universe is observed in a speeding expansion of which the end result is the opposite of your babble. You are referring to the big crunch which requires that the explosion loses energy, yet the expansion is gaining energy.

Please try to keep up agent Y, you are making your group look sad

And you know that this will stay like that forever? How?

The universe is not effected by any human perception correct or otherwise.

But you know that life came to the Earth in an asteroid pond

.

But you know that life came to the Earth in an asteroid pond

.
irregardless, life will appear wherever conditions are favorable throughout the universe.

first form of life - the elements of the periodic table -
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the elements create molecules -
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molecules form compounds -
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compounds together form the first physiological tissue / single cell -
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simple azalea - physiology is a metaphysical substance that will appear wherever conditions are favorable in the universe and has an inseparable spiritual content that if removed will cause the physiology to disappear.

Again little boy genius, the matter in the universe is on an accelerating path away from itself, as such a singularity is impossible.

Your little diagrams do not alter reality

 

[BreezeWood]

but maybe for christians they can find a way.

They already found a way. The Bible says if you're living when Jesus returns, then you don't experience death.

.

They already found a way. The Bible says if you're living when Jesus returns, then you don't experience death.

.
the prescribed religion of antiquity is that when those remaining are the same in triumph the final judgement with their return will be for success or failure for everyone - for admission or extinction.

christians are incapable of triumph over evil so final judgement will never occur or christians will perish as the truth will prevail without them and their book of forgeries and fallacies.

 

[esalla]

but maybe for christians they can find a way.

They already found a way. The Bible says if you're living when Jesus returns, then you don't experience death.

.

They already found a way. The Bible says if you're living when Jesus returns, then you don't experience death.

.
the prescribed religion of antiquity is that when those remaining are the same in triumph the final judgement with their return will be for success or failure for everyone - for admission or extinction.

christians are incapable of triumph over evil so final judgement will never occur or christians will perish as the truth will prevail without them and their book of forgeries and fallacies.

Let me shoot up some heroin so I can process than BS

 

[Taz]

The universe made all the ingredients. Supernovas...

That's impossible. The universe is too complex.

Everything in the universe is a product of the Big Bang, and the evolution of the universe afterwards.

Don't be silly. There is no intelligence behind a big bang, e.g. a firecracker doesn't just appear in your butt and light itself to wake you up.

And we don't know why it happened or how it happened. Still doesn't default to an invisible dude.

 

[esalla]

The universe made all the ingredients. Supernovas...

That's impossible. The universe is too complex.

Everything in the universe is a product of the Big Bang, and the evolution of the universe afterwards.

Don't be silly. There is no intelligence behind a big bang, e.g. a firecracker doesn't just appear in your butt and light itself to wake you up.

And we don't know why it happened or how it happened. Still doesn't default to an invisible dude.

And you default to an invisible asteroid pond

 

[BreezeWood]

The universe made all the ingredients. Supernovas...

That's impossible. The universe is too complex.

Everything in the universe is a product of the Big Bang, and the evolution of the universe afterwards.

Then why can the point of the big bang not be traced back to the beginning.

LOL there was no universe, then nothing just decided to explode into something

Do you really claim that this is science

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Then why can the point of the big bang not be traced back to the beginning.

LOL there was no universe, then nothing just decided to explode into something

Do you really claim that this is science

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bb is cyclical, the nothing was compressed energy reverting to matter.

LOL you better tell the professors ranting that time and space did not exist until the big bang.

Also for that theory to hold water the current state of the universe should not be in speeding expansion which precludes any reversing cycle

Play on

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Also for that theory to hold water the current state of the universe should not be in speeding expansion which precludes any reversing cycle

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matter is expanding by a trajectory of a finite angle that will return all matter at the same time to the origin without ever changing direction to recompress to create a new moment of singularity.

Actually the universe is observed in a speeding expansion of which the end result is the opposite of your babble. You are referring to the big crunch which requires that the explosion loses energy, yet the expansion is gaining energy.

Please try to keep up agent Y, you are making your group look sad

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Actually the universe is observed in a speeding expansion of which the end result is the opposite of your babble. You are referring to the big crunch which requires that the explosion loses energy, yet the expansion is gaining energy.

Please try to keep up agent Y, you are making your group look sad

matter is expanding by a trajectory of a finite angle that will return all matter at the same time to the origin without ever changing direction to recompress to create a new moment of singularity.

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as stated, morons are known for reading comprehension deficits ...

what group would that be - not many metaphysical spiritualists. of those they all make you look like an idiot.

How does matter that is speeding away from itself into infinity form a singularity

And is Bart Simpson involved

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How does matter that is speeding away from itself into infinity form a singularity

And is Bart Simpson involved

matter is expanding by a trajectory of a finite angle that will return all matter at the same time to the origin without ever changing direction to recompress to create a new moment of singularity.

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for as long as to complete the trajectory finite angle at the same time for all the material that was expelled.

do you need a bowl of milk as well ...

 

[Taz]

LOL I could shoot heroin into my eyeballs then jump into a woodchipper and still be brighter than you

 

[BreezeWood]

but maybe for christians they can find a way.

They already found a way. The Bible says if you're living when Jesus returns, then you don't experience death.

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They already found a way. The Bible says if you're living when Jesus returns, then you don't experience death.

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the prescribed religion of antiquity is that when those remaining are the same in triumph the final judgement with their return will be for success or failure for everyone - for admission or extinction.

christians are incapable of triumph over evil so final judgement will never occur or christians will perish as the truth will prevail without them and their book of forgeries and fallacies.

Let me shoot up some heroin so I can process than BS

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Let me shoot up some heroin so I can process than BS

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- esso is a christian - so sad.

 

[james bond]

How does matter that is speeding away from itself into infinity form a singularity

And is Bart Simpson involved

More like Bart Stupak for BreezeWood .

We just think the universe is speeding away from itself as we can't see that, i.e. we can't see into the future. All we can see is the past. However, it's been true to its course so far. Tomorrow? Maybe not.