Do You Know Why The US Senate Was Created?

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    Do You Know Why The US Senate Was Created? The indented quote(s), below in this post set things in motion. The quote(s) in this thread are not intended to embarrass or humiliate only to give context to an interesting observation: many people here and elsewhere have their own ideas on things that just don't measure up to what is on the record.

    So, do you know why the US Senate was created and how it is supposed to work and also keep things in check?
     
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    Spare me your I'm better posting here............with your sarcastic reply.

    The Senate was created to be the voice of the State Legislatures.

    The Senate was created to give an equal voice in Gov't to every State. Each State to gets 2 Senators regardless of population.

    The Senate was created to be the COOLER if you read the Federalist papers. Slowing down things from the House to ensure a new bill proposed isn't just a recent burst of political activism.

    The Senate terms were longer because of ongoing Trade Agreements and Treaties to foreign countries..........

    And so on.

    So, what's your major malfunction with my post again.................
     
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    Is that direct democracy? Does the federal government of the USA use a direct democracy system? Is that why the Senate was created?
     
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    The Federalist Papers Study Guide Essay 63 Summary and Analysis GradeSaver

    The Senate is not a well-conceived idea, however, merely because it represents the people. It is also a good idea because at times the people need to be protected from their own ideas and prejudices. Although people are spread over an extensive region, they can still be "subject to the infection of violent passions"

    In addition, "history informs us of no long lived republic which had not a senate." They, however, had senates elected for life. America, however, will not follow these examples because they are repugnant to the foundations upon which the country is built. The plan of the senate, however, blends the stability with the ideal of liberty. A senate, however, is still extremely important and necessary because they then represent the people but are immune from the people's whims. The people must be represented and in a senate that sits for life, this does not occur.

    Some people, however, argue that six years is to long and leads to tyrannical situations. Madison answers, however, that in order for the Senate to corrupt, it must corrupt itself, the state legislatures, the House of Representatives, and the people at large. It, therefore, is not possible in only six years. If the people do not believe Madison, they should look at the examples of the State Constitution, particularly Maryland, which has a strong senate that has not corrupted the rest of the state. The best example, however, is Britain's House of Lords, a hereditary assembly, which has not infected the rest of the country. With the balance of the House of Representative to guard and represent the people, the Senate is a necessary and important function of government that will support the "people themselves."
     
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    No............

    Did you vote on the last law we passed? Did you go to the polls and say yea or nay on Obamacare?
     
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    The Federalist Papers Study Guide Essay 62 Summary and Analysis GradeSaver

    The method of appointing the senators solves another important problem. Frequently, men who hold public office forget their obligation to the people, and therefore, betray the public trust. By dividing the legislative branch into two parts and requiring agreement between them, the liberties of the people will be more secure, and the passage of bad laws will be more difficult. The history of governments all over the world demonstrates that where the legislative body is not divided their partisan leaders often sway the legislators. The senate, which consists of fewer men who will hold their office for six years, reduce this threat. Representatives, elected by the people, serve for only two years; in many cases their private occupations may be more important to them than their public office, and they cannot be expect to devote sufficient time to government or to a study of the laws. Most blunders of our governments to date have been caused by incompetence and a lack of political wisdom.

    The Senate will not only provide stability in government, it will reduce the tendency of the House to pass too many laws. Unnecessary legislation produces chaos and favors the wealthy. The people cannot be expected to keep up with too many new laws and regulations; farmers and merchants will be reluctant to start new business ventures if they feel that new regulations will hurt their investments.


    Perhaps I'm not the one needing to learn something here. Perhaps some posters need to read the federalist papers.
     
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    Oh my, class has started early. Take your seat.

    1) When they represent the people but are immune from the people's whims, they are not functioning in a direct democratic system. They are functioning in an indirect democracy system

    homework: look up direct democracy, indirect democracy, and representative democracy
     
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    Many of us have. Difference is we've read them with comprehension skill sets
     
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    How about you go take a long walk on a short bridge.

    I replied to direct by asking you if you voted personally on Obamacare..........now didn't I.

    Perhaps you are the one who needs an education. Step one is to read the Federalist papers.

    Regardless of your punk ass smart ass comments.........my posts are spot on with the intent of OUR REPUBLIC via the references of the Federalist papers.

    Your attempt to SPLIT HAIRS doesn't change that.
     
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    Yawn.............

    Your a LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND...........Now pat yourself on the back and say good boy.
     

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