Do The Rich Pay Their Fair Share?

[Spare_change]

Do the rich receive their fare share?

Well beyond.

Please elaborate on what the rich receive above which they have earned.

In general, they didn't earn their wealth, for starters. And while not a zero-sum game the wealthy benefit greatly compared to what they produce. It's why Adam Smith had no problems with them paying more than their fair share.

In general, that is an unmitigated lie. Most rich earn their wealth. Your ad hominem attack holds no validity whatsoever.

Then, you make this bold, sweeping statement that "... the wealthy benefit greatly compared to what they produce ...". Again, no proof, because it's false.

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

 

[Spare_change]

A fair share is to divide the national budget by the number of citizens of voting age, and that is the amount each citizen owes. That's the only formula that calculates a fair share.

Therefore the people who are not paying at least that amount in federal taxes are the only ones that are not paying their fair share.

I'll tell my 85 year old Mom in law to kick in more...

Tell her not to worry about it...someone else is paying more than their fair share to pick up the slack.

Okay, take the entire wealth of the nation, divide by citizens eligible to vote, send me my share each year and the bill for paying the debt off in ten years. That bill I will gladly pay with my generous new income.

The nation has no wealth - again, your rhetoric is empty.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

And: Wealth inequality in the U.S. is 10 times worse than income inequality - Fortune

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The nation has no wealth - again, your rhetoric is empty.

Wealth in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Spare_change]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

 

[Spare_change]

The nation has no wealth - again, your rhetoric is empty.

Wealth in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Wealth IN the United States is a lot different than wealth OF the United States.

Since most wealth is privately held, it's none of your damn business.

Send your senator the bill for your share of the wealth OF the United States.

 

[Missourian]

In general, that is an unmitigated lie. Most rich earn their wealth. Your ad hominem attack holds no validity whatsoever.

Then, you make this bold, sweeping statement that "... the wealthy benefit greatly compared to what they produce ...". Again, no proof, because it's false.

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

And even those who didn't...SOMEBODY earned it, and it was theirs to do with as they wished, including insuring the well being of their descendents.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

 

[Spare_change]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

The national debt was incurred, in the name of ALL the people, with your permission. Sorry --- you owe the same amount I do.

My wealth, on the other hand, was earned by my actions - you don't get any, because you don't deserve it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

The national debt was incurred, in the name of ALL the people, with your permission. Sorry --- you owe the same amount I do.

My wealth, on the other hand, was earned by my actions - you don't get any, because you don't deserve it.

Debt you want shared evenly, but not income. Got it.

What a deal for the rich eh? As usual...

 

[Spare_change]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

The national debt was incurred, in the name of ALL the people, with your permission. Sorry --- you owe the same amount I do.

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

The national debt was incurred, in the name of ALL the people, with your permission. Sorry --- you owe the same amount I do.

My wealth, on the other hand, was earned by my actions - you don't get any, because you don't deserve it.

Debt you want shared evenly, but not income. Got it.

What a deal for the rich eh? As usual...

You incurred the debt - you pay it.

Why in the world would the debt be prorated based on income? That's just plain silly.

 

[Missourian]

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

Why?

What does one have to do with the other?

Because socialist want it that way is not an acceptable answer.

 

[Missourian]

Debt you want shared evenly, but not income. Got it.

What a deal for the rich eh? As usual...

And we are right back to "what extra services do the rich get that you do not from the federal government"?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Seems like you have a problem boys. The guy who make 10 mil a year owes 50k, and the guy making 20K a year also owes 50K. Not gonna get the debt paid off that way.

Now, we could fix this with a nice flat tax of say, 50%. Any takers?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Debt you want shared evenly, but not income. Got it.

What a deal for the rich eh? As usual...

And we are right back to "what extra services do the rich get that you do not from the federal government"?

Why should they get anything at all? What do they need, besides an army and the infrastructure we paid for that they use to make the big bucks. Do you want us to name a stealth bomber after them? The bill on that is two bil a piece. That two million they pay doesn't pick up the gas tab in that case.

What gave you the idea that because you pay more you should get more? How many apples can you eat? Same as a poor man right. So, how many government services can you suck up when you can pay for better yourself? Where did you little morons get this whole life should be fair idea, Ayn Rand books?

 

[Muhammed]

It seems to me that if they have enough extra money to waste on worthless crap like tihis...

I'm Taxed Enough Already!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It seems to me that if they have enough extra money to waste on worthless crap like tihis...

I'm Taxed Enough Already!

Gotta spend money to make money.

And taxed enough? Very doubtful, especially since we aren't paying our bills.

 

[Muhammed]

It seems to me that if they have enough extra money to waste on worthless crap like tihis...

I'm Taxed Enough Already!

Gotta spend money to make money.

And taxed enough? Very doubtful, especially since we aren't paying our bills.

I don't know about you, but I'm paying my bills.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It seems to me that if they have enough extra money to waste on worthless crap like tihis...

I'm Taxed Enough Already!

Gotta spend money to make money.

And taxed enough? Very doubtful, especially since we aren't paying our bills.

I don't know about you, but I'm paying my bills.

I pay mine as well, but the US doesn't because it doesn't tax enough.

 

[Ernie S.]

Cut the rhetoric - deal in reality.

I am...

You cannot discuss privately held wealth ... it isn't yours to be shared.

Reality is a prickly thing, isn't it? You can't use it to justify your blather.

The wealth isn't shared but the national debt is? Interesting.

Tell you what, let's adjust the national debt shares based on income. Go...

The national debt was incurred, in the name of ALL the people, with your permission. Sorry --- you owe the same amount I do.

My wealth, on the other hand, was earned by my actions - you don't get any, because you don't deserve it.

Debt you want shared evenly, but not income. Got it.

What a deal for the rich eh? As usual...

My wealth is of my doing, not yours. YOU have no claim to it and it is irrelevant to your situation. If you want wealth comparable to mine, earn it yourself.