find something in the Constitution that applies to abortion

[Wolfstrike]

>>>>THE LEGAL BASIS FOR ABORTION: THE FOURTEENTH AM ENDM ENT
I n 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court stated the legal basis for
abortion. According to the Supreme
Court, the constitutional right to an abortion exists because of
the Fourteenth Amendment. The
Fourteenth Amendment has a Due Process Clause. The Due Process
Clause in the Fourteenth
Amendment is the current Federal Abortion Amendment according to
the High Court. For the
benefit of those who do not know what the current Federal
Abortion Amendment says, please
allow me to quote it for you. It says: " . . . nor shall any
State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law." Admittedly, the word
'abortion' does not appear in the
clause. Indeed, the word 'abortion' does not appear anywhere in
the Constitution. But according
to the Supreme Court the word 'abortion' is in the Due Process
Clause. In their opinion, the right
to
an abortion is in the word "liber ty" in the Due Process Clause. This is what
Justice Sandra Day
O'Connor said in 1992. N ote 1. Thus, we could substitute the word 'abortion' for the
word
"liberty" if we wanted to. Therefore, the Fourteenth Amendment
is in a sense the current Federal
Abortion Amendment. The first time the Supreme Court said that
there was a federal right to an
abortion was in 1973. This is the year the Supreme Court decided the Roe v. Wade case.
However, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court did not clearly state
what the legal basis for
abortion was. This did not occur until 19 years later in 1992.
It is likely that the Supreme Court
based Roe v. Wade on the word "liberty" in the Due Process Clause but it is not
clear. >>>>






according to Sandra Nut O'Connor , who is about to serve an eternity term in hell, the word "liberty" give states authority to abort for money, while she found no relevance in the first part that says "nor shall any State deprive any person of life"

she was better off not making a comment at all

 

[JakeStarkey]

So amend the Constitution.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

find something in the Constitution that applies to abortion

Good question.

Show where the US Constitution says the state can take control of a man's or woman's reproduction.

 

[Wolfstrike]

I already showed you that a person can not be executed without a trial

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I already showed you that a person can not be executed without a trial

Oh sorry.

I thought this thread was about how the Constitution says I have the right to control YOUR reproduction.

My mistake.

 

[Agit8r]

>>>>THE LEGAL BASIS FOR ABORTION: THE FOURTEENTH AM ENDM ENT
I n 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court stated the legal basis for
abortion. According to the Supreme
Court, the constitutional right to an abortion exists because of
the Fourteenth Amendment. The
Fourteenth Amendment has a Due Process Clause. The Due Process
Clause in the Fourteenth
Amendment is the current Federal Abortion Amendment according to
the High Court. For the
benefit of those who do not know what the current Federal
Abortion Amendment says, please
allow me to quote it for you. It says: " . . . nor shall any
State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law." Admittedly, the word
'abortion' does not appear in the
clause. Indeed, the word 'abortion' does not appear anywhere in
the Constitution. But according
to the Supreme Court the word 'abortion' is in the Due Process
Clause. In their opinion, the right
to
an abortion is in the word "liber ty" in the Due Process Clause. This is what
Justice Sandra Day
O'Connor said in 1992. N ote 1. Thus, we could substitute the word 'abortion' for the
word
"liberty" if we wanted to. Therefore, the Fourteenth Amendment
is in a sense the current Federal
Abortion Amendment. The first time the Supreme Court said that
there was a federal right to an
abortion was in 1973. This is the year the Supreme Court decided the Roe v. Wade case.
However, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court did not clearly state
what the legal basis for
abortion was. This did not occur until 19 years later in 1992.
It is likely that the Supreme Court
based Roe v. Wade on the word "liberty" in the Due Process Clause but it is not
clear. >>>>






according to Sandra Nut O'Connor , who is about to serve an eternity term in hell, the word "liberty" give states authority to abort for money, while she found no relevance in the first part that says "nor shall any State deprive any person of life"

she was better off not making a comment at all

Actually O'Connor was just upholding the precedent of Roe:

"This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy. The detriment that the State would impose upon the pregnant woman by denying this choice altogether is apparent."
-- Justice Harry Blackmun; from majority opinion Roe v. Wade

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I already showed you that a person can not be executed without a trial

And the Constitution clearly states that an embryo/fetus is not a 'person' entitled to Constitutional protections, including the 14th Amendment:

'[A]n abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

 

[jillian]

>>>>THE LEGAL BASIS FOR ABORTION: THE FOURTEENTH AM ENDM ENT
I n 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court stated the legal basis for
abortion. According to the Supreme
Court, the constitutional right to an abortion exists because of
the Fourteenth Amendment. The
Fourteenth Amendment has a Due Process Clause. The Due Process
Clause in the Fourteenth
Amendment is the current Federal Abortion Amendment according to
the High Court. For the
benefit of those who do not know what the current Federal
Abortion Amendment says, please
allow me to quote it for you. It says: " . . . nor shall any
State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law." Admittedly, the word
'abortion' does not appear in the
clause. Indeed, the word 'abortion' does not appear anywhere in
the Constitution. But according
to the Supreme Court the word 'abortion' is in the Due Process
Clause. In their opinion, the right
to
an abortion is in the word "liber ty" in the Due Process Clause. This is what
Justice Sandra Day
O'Connor said in 1992. N ote 1. Thus, we could substitute the word 'abortion' for the
word
"liberty" if we wanted to. Therefore, the Fourteenth Amendment
is in a sense the current Federal
Abortion Amendment. The first time the Supreme Court said that
there was a federal right to an
abortion was in 1973. This is the year the Supreme Court decided the Roe v. Wade case.
However, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court did not clearly state
what the legal basis for
abortion was. This did not occur until 19 years later in 1992.
It is likely that the Supreme Court
based Roe v. Wade on the word "liberty" in the Due Process Clause but it is not
clear. >>>>






according to Sandra Nut O'Connor , who is about to serve an eternity term in hell, the word "liberty" give states authority to abort for money, while she found no relevance in the first part that says "nor shall any State deprive any person of life"

she was better off not making a comment at all

Toe v wade was very clear that there is a balance between the rights of the state and a woman's right to exercise dominion over her own body.

Maybe you should go back and read it.

 

[jillian]

I already showed you that a person can not be executed without a trial

A fetus isn't a person.

 

[Wolfstrike]

ok, so I can shoot someone and be protected under privacy?

you guys are trying to blur definitions to defend a policy the federal government can't possibly support

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

ok, so I can shoot someone and be protected under privacy?

you guys are trying to blur definitions to defend a policy the federal government can't possibly support

Wrong.

Due process rights manifest only after one is born, not before:

'The Court in Roe carefully considered, and rejected, the State's argument "that the fetus is a `person' within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment." 410 U. S., at 156. After analyzing the usage of "person" in the Constitution, the Court concluded that that word "has application only postnatally."' ibid

No definitions are being 'blurred,' the law is very clear, concise, settled, and accepted: prior to birth there are no due process rights.

 

[Dana7360]

I already showed you that a person can not be executed without a trial

That has nothing to do with abortion.

Tell me why a woman should die because her pregnancy goes wrong.

Tell me why a woman should die because she is diagnosed with cancer and if she doesn't treat it she will die but the treatment would kill or severely harm the fetus.

Tell me why you believe that a fetus with severe deformations or problems should suffer and die within minutes of being born. Tell me why you want a woman to suffer through all that to see her child die before her eyes at birth.

You obviously have not read the supreme court ruling nor have you ever read the constitution.

The ruling was along the right to privacy. Everyone has a right to privacy including with their medical records and treatment. So it's none of anyone's business what a woman chooses to do with her own body.

It's as simple as that.

I would like you to show me where in the constitution it says you or anyone else has the right to make medical decisions for people you don't know and without you having a medical license. If you have a medical license you know how irresponsible it is to diagnose anyone without a proper examination and tests. A doctor could lose their medical license for doing something like that.

 

[Wolfstrike]

oh, it's an accepted definition like slavery was right?

the only line in the constitution that applies to abortion is this,
"nor shall any State deprive any person of life"
there is nothing more clear.
the federal government allow states to murder people for profit.
any judge that says otherwise is wrong and politician that allows it is corrupt.
to say a fetus isn't a person is bullshit and anyone with an IQ over 80 knows it.
people march on with the lie because what ever evil reason, they don't like the fact the American government has no power to authorize systematic murder.

 

[Dana7360]

ok, so I can shoot someone and be protected under privacy?




Give that a try.

Let us all know how it works out for you.

 

[Wolfstrike]

exposing the corruption.
talking about rape or someone dying while giving birth is typical left wing politics.
using an emotional issue to get their foot in the door.
"do you think a woman should be forbidden from getting an abortion if birth will kill her?"
"well ...I guess not"
BAM!
stop in at your local kwik-e-bort for the #1 special, 100,000 kids per year

 

[Wolfstrike]

ok, so I can shoot someone and be protected under privacy?




Give that a try.

Let us all know how it works out for you.

all I need is some schmuck on the supreme court to re-define it for me

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

oh, it's an accepted definition like slavery was right?

the only line in the constitution that applies to abortion is this,
"nor shall any State deprive any person of life"
there is nothing more clear.
the federal government allow states to murder people for profit.
any judge that says otherwise is wrong and politician that allows it is corrupt.
to say a fetus isn't a person is bullshit and anyone with an IQ over 80 knows it.
people march on with the lie because what ever evil reason, they don't like the fact the American government has no power to authorize systematic murder.

Incoherent nonsense.

Your thread has failed.

Miserably.

 

[eots]

I already showed you that a person can not be executed without a trial

A fetus isn't a person.

even ten secs before its born or partial birthed ?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Roe, and subsequent rulings assumed, despite all established scientific precedent recognizing a fetus as an unborn offspring of it's native species, that the fetus was not human and had no rights under The Constitution, so therefore, the 14th only applied to the mother.

Though it is quite ironic, that we guarantee "life" amongst liberty and happiness, but our courts use that same basis to allow for the wanton denial of life to unborn children. In order to grant life, you must allow it to come into being, and insure that such a life plays out to its natural conclusion.

Correct me if I'm wrong, here.

 

[Wildman]

you guys are trying to blur definitions...

remember the general welfare clause ?

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States…

the fucking liberscum/demorats used this to provide a living for all the worthless, lazy, shit-for-brains who are for the MOST part are BLACK !! up: