Didn't obama a few months back extend his hand to the Russians?

at least I never lied about putting various posters on ignore, and then responded to every post they made to me.

Why must you continue to prove how childish you are? You lied in this post. and yes I had you ob ignore but when I keep see the moniker conservative type in thread I go to after I post I do look to get a laugh. You really aren't a conservative are you? You don't act like one you are acting like a brat that got his feelings hurt.

I must have gotten under your skin quite a bit to get you to whine to the mods...lololol.

Live with it, liar.

Children don't get under my skin live with that liar. I can prove you lied can you prove I led?
 
Nope didn't run away just left the kid to his own devices. What happen to the signature I gave you you even reneged on that. You lying cheating bitch.

Crying, whining AND running away from a debate. You've hit the Trifecta of being a weasley little slug. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

I wasn't the one that reneged on the bet you were.

I've asked you TWICE to prove your accusation here. And you avoid doing so. I guess you believe it's ok to make up accusations and then avoid proving them (which would be impossible to do)

That makes you the liar, doesn't it? And yet you are still here.
 
Crying, whining AND running away from a debate. You've hit the Trifecta of being a weasley little slug. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

I wasn't the one that reneged on the bet you were.

I've asked you TWICE to prove your accusation here. And you avoid doing so. I guess you believe it's ok to make up accusations and then avoid proving them (which would be impossible to do)

That makes you the liar, doesn't it? And yet you are still here.

Why do I have to show anything? when you have the amended signature? the lightly less visible portion of your signature is what I gave you and the bold disclaimer is what you amended and was not authorized Because when you came back from your self imposed ban as to the terms of our agreement you had written that was my area of control for 30 days. But you do realize you can't show an old signature as proof? You do realize that you can't cut and paste a post and the signature be link in the post? It will change everytime you change your signature.
 
I wasn't the one that reneged on the bet you were.

I've asked you TWICE to prove your accusation here. And you avoid doing so. I guess you believe it's ok to make up accusations and then avoid proving them (which would be impossible to do)

That makes you the liar, doesn't it? And yet you are still here.

Why do I have to show anything? when you have the amended signature? the lightly less visible portion of your signature is what I gave you and the bold disclaimer is what you amended and was not authorized Because when you came back from your self imposed ban as to the terms of our agreement you had written that was my area of control for 30 days. But you do realize you can't show an old signature as proof? You do realize that you can't cut and paste a post and the signature be link in the post? It will change everytime you change your signature.

That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)
 
I've asked you TWICE to prove your accusation here. And you avoid doing so. I guess you believe it's ok to make up accusations and then avoid proving them (which would be impossible to do)

That makes you the liar, doesn't it? And yet you are still here.

Why do I have to show anything? when you have the amended signature? the lightly less visible portion of your signature is what I gave you and the bold disclaimer is what you amended and was not authorized Because when you came back from your self imposed ban as to the terms of our agreement you had written that was my area of control for 30 days. But you do realize you can't show an old signature as proof? You do realize that you can't cut and paste a post and the signature be link in the post? It will change everytime you change your signature.

That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)

He'll just keep making shit up and calling you a liar, and saying how awesome he is for outing you.

Bigfuckingmoron1775.
 
Why must you continue to prove how childish you are? You lied in this post. and yes I had you ob ignore but when I keep see the moniker conservative type in thread I go to after I post I do look to get a laugh. You really aren't a conservative are you? You don't act like one you are acting like a brat that got his feelings hurt.

I must have gotten under your skin quite a bit to get you to whine to the mods...lololol.

Live with it, liar.

Children don't get under my skin live with that liar. I can prove you lied can you prove I led?

you've never proved anything. All you've ever done is whine, moan, post lies, and claim victory for doing so.

Pathetic hack. You make real conservatives look bad by your association with them. We should take away your membership car.
 
I've asked you TWICE to prove your accusation here. And you avoid doing so. I guess you believe it's ok to make up accusations and then avoid proving them (which would be impossible to do)

That makes you the liar, doesn't it? And yet you are still here.

Why do I have to show anything? when you have the amended signature? the lightly less visible portion of your signature is what I gave you and the bold disclaimer is what you amended and was not authorized Because when you came back from your self imposed ban as to the terms of our agreement you had written that was my area of control for 30 days. But you do realize you can't show an old signature as proof? You do realize that you can't cut and paste a post and the signature be link in the post? It will change everytime you change your signature.

That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)

I told you from the first day that was not authorized by me it was amended by you without my authorization. Keep babbling. The signature that you use is proof that you reneged on the bet move along. Thats how you do it.
 
I must have gotten under your skin quite a bit to get you to whine to the mods...lololol.

Live with it, liar.

Children don't get under my skin live with that liar. I can prove you lied can you prove I led?

you've never proved anything. All you've ever done is whine, moan, post lies, and claim victory for doing so.

Pathetic hack. You make real conservatives look bad by your association with them. We should take away your membership car.

You lied in the thread obama beating the war drum for Iran. Simple as that and you continue to lie about it. Give it up stop being childish, let this be a lesson to you. Don't fuck with a bear when you are a weasel ass.
 
Why do I have to show anything? when you have the amended signature? the lightly less visible portion of your signature is what I gave you and the bold disclaimer is what you amended and was not authorized Because when you came back from your self imposed ban as to the terms of our agreement you had written that was my area of control for 30 days. But you do realize you can't show an old signature as proof? You do realize that you can't cut and paste a post and the signature be link in the post? It will change everytime you change your signature.

That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)

He'll just keep making shit up and calling you a liar, and saying how awesome he is for outing you.

Bigfuckingmoron1775.

Why so childish? can't stand that I busted you for lying?
 
Why do I have to show anything? when you have the amended signature? the lightly less visible portion of your signature is what I gave you and the bold disclaimer is what you amended and was not authorized Because when you came back from your self imposed ban as to the terms of our agreement you had written that was my area of control for 30 days. But you do realize you can't show an old signature as proof? You do realize that you can't cut and paste a post and the signature be link in the post? It will change everytime you change your signature.

That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)

I told you from the first day that was not authorized by me

Authorized by you? :rofl: :rofl: Did I or did I not put the statement you gave me in my signature? Yes or No?

it was amended by you

Amended by me? What words that you gave me have I changed? Be specific. I still have the PM you sent me with your words....so I will be glad to post it for comparison if you want to accuse me of AMENDING your statement.

without my authorization. Keep babbling. The signature that you use is proof that you reneged on the bet move along. Thats how you do it.

I did not NEED your "authorization". I made the bet willingly, I took a month off willingly, I posted the signature you gave me WITHOUT AMENDMENT willingly. Now...if you want to PROVE that we bet that you get exclusive use of my signature space, go ahead and post that part of the bet. If you want to PROVE that your statement was supposed to be a certain size and color, go ahead and post that part of the bet.

But you can't because that was never part of the bet YOU AGREED TO. You are a liar, a loser and a whiner. And you prove it again and again and again.
 
That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)

I told you from the first day that was not authorized by me

Authorized by you? :rofl: :rofl: Did I or did I not put the statement you gave me in my signature? Yes or No?

it was amended by you

Amended by me? What words that you gave me have I changed? Be specific. I still have the PM you sent me with your words....so I will be glad to post it for comparison if you want to accuse me of AMENDING your statement.

without my authorization. Keep babbling. The signature that you use is proof that you reneged on the bet move along. Thats how you do it.

I did not NEED your "authorization". I made the bet willingly, I took a month off willingly, I posted the signature you gave me WITHOUT AMENDMENT willingly. Now...if you want to PROVE that we bet that you get exclusive use of my signature space, go ahead and post that part of the bet. If you want to PROVE that your statement was supposed to be a certain size and color, go ahead and post that part of the bet.

But you can't because that was never part of the bet YOU AGREED TO. You are a liar, a loser and a whiner. And you prove it again and again and again.

Wasn't the terms of the bet the signature of my choosing? From the first day you posted that signature I told you it was not the signature of my choosing
 
That's the crux of your FAIL accusations right there. You make accusations and believe you never ever have to prove them. Laughable. That's why we don't take you seriously and you are a object of scorn and derision. :lol::lol::lol:

(BTW....YOUR statement is in my signature, is it not? Where in our bet did it say that it had to be exclusive, had to be a certain size, had to be a certain color font. Show that to us....or be further known as the lying whiner that you are)

He'll just keep making shit up and calling you a liar, and saying how awesome he is for outing you.

Bigfuckingmoron1775.

Why so childish? can't stand that I busted you for lying?

Really? Where?
 
I told you from the first day that was not authorized by me

Authorized by you? :rofl: :rofl: Did I or did I not put the statement you gave me in my signature? Yes or No?



Amended by me? What words that you gave me have I changed? Be specific. I still have the PM you sent me with your words....so I will be glad to post it for comparison if you want to accuse me of AMENDING your statement.

without my authorization. Keep babbling. The signature that you use is proof that you reneged on the bet move along. Thats how you do it.

I did not NEED your "authorization". I made the bet willingly, I took a month off willingly, I posted the signature you gave me WITHOUT AMENDMENT willingly. Now...if you want to PROVE that we bet that you get exclusive use of my signature space, go ahead and post that part of the bet. If you want to PROVE that your statement was supposed to be a certain size and color, go ahead and post that part of the bet.

But you can't because that was never part of the bet YOU AGREED TO. You are a liar, a loser and a whiner. And you prove it again and again and again.

Wasn't the terms of the bet the signature of my choosing? From the first day you posted that signature I told you it was not the signature of my choosing

Here is the PM you sent on 10/13/11:

YOUR NEW SIGNATURE
Bigrebnc1775 was right I was wrong, I lied and he was smart enough to realize what I said was a lie. Vote obama and his socialist polices out of office in 2012, because he has failed America. Freddie and Fannie caused the economical collapse. Obama is anti America. I‘m an idiot for supporting him.


Now...show where I amended it from that text.
 
Authorized by you? :rofl: :rofl: Did I or did I not put the statement you gave me in my signature? Yes or No?



Amended by me? What words that you gave me have I changed? Be specific. I still have the PM you sent me with your words....so I will be glad to post it for comparison if you want to accuse me of AMENDING your statement.



I did not NEED your "authorization". I made the bet willingly, I took a month off willingly, I posted the signature you gave me WITHOUT AMENDMENT willingly. Now...if you want to PROVE that we bet that you get exclusive use of my signature space, go ahead and post that part of the bet. If you want to PROVE that your statement was supposed to be a certain size and color, go ahead and post that part of the bet.

But you can't because that was never part of the bet YOU AGREED TO. You are a liar, a loser and a whiner. And you prove it again and again and again.

Wasn't the terms of the bet the signature of my choosing? From the first day you posted that signature I told you it was not the signature of my choosing

Here is the PM you sent on 10/13/11:

YOUR NEW SIGNATURE
Bigrebnc1775 was right I was wrong, I lied and he was smart enough to realize what I said was a lie. Vote obama and his socialist polices out of office in 2012, because he has failed America. Freddie and Fannie caused the economical collapse. Obama is anti America. I‘m an idiot for supporting him.


Now...show where I amended it from that text.

I know he's being a dick, and he's wrong... but you'll get mods on your ass for posting the contents of a PM.
 
3 . Each Party shall not convert and shall not use ICBM
launchers and SLBM launchers for placement of missile defense
interceptors therein. Each Party further shall not convert
and shall not use launchers of missile defense interceptors
for placement of ICBMs and SLBMs therein. This provision
shall not apply to ICBM launchers that were converted prior to
signature of this Treaty for placement of missile defense
interceptors therein

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/140035.pdf

big, that provision is a simple one, in that if a nation be it the United States or Russia when they dismantle a Rail Mobile system, ground based, or Moblie , or SLBM meaning submarine launched ballistic missile system they will not use the launching platform for missile defense systems like THAD, or any other defense type Missile SAM's or otherwise. Further, it also states that missile defense system launchers will not be converted as well to launch ICBM's or SLBM's . This has nothing to do with upgrades for existing ICBM's


I also found this in the new start treaty


4 . As of the date of its entry into force, this Treaty shall
supersede the Treaty Between the United States of America and
the Russian Federation on Strategic Offensive Reductions of
May 24, 2002, which shall terminate as of that date.

SORT, is the treaty this refers to signed by President Bush and Putin. I have included it and the link for you. Again, upgrading and keeping existing systems in good order as long as the numbers and capabilities do not exceed the treaty is common both in the USAF, and USN, as well as the Russian Federation.

The Treaty Between the United States of America and the Russian Federation on Strategic Offensive Reductions (SORT), also known as the Treaty of Moscow, was a strategic arms reduction treaty between the United States and Russia that was in force from June 2003 until February 2011 when it was superseded by the New START treaty.[1] At the time, SORT was positioned as "represent[ing] an important element of the new strategic relationship" between the two countries[2] with both parties agreeing to limit their nuclear arsenal to between 1700 and 2200 operationally deployed warheads each. It was signed in Moscow on 24 May 2002. After ratification by the U.S. Senate and the State Duma, SORT came into force on 1 June 2003. It would have expired on 31 December 2012 if not superseded by New START. Either party could have withdrawn from the treaty upon giving three months written notice to the other.
Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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