Did we pay $1,191,200 for 2 pounds of frozen ham?

[JBeukema]

give them a rod and teach them to fish and find worms

 

[JBeukema]

ON that note, stop feeding Africa and teach them to grow genetically engineered corn. If they won't eat it, they deserve to go extinct.

 

[DiveCon]

It was 500,000 lbs. But still twice the retail price. Someone gots some splainin to do.

Depends on the quality of the product.

If it's to the food banks, it should be the cheapest available if anything at all...

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benjamin Franklin

It's giving them a fish vs teaching them to fish.

based on what was reported, they paid something like $1.50/lb
dont know when the last time you bought ham in the store, but thats some pretty cheap ham

 

[kwc57]

Depends on the quality of the product.

If it's to the food banks, it should be the cheapest available if anything at all...

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benjamin Franklin

It's giving them a fish vs teaching them to fish.

based on what was reported, they paid something like $1.50/lb
dont know when the last time you bought ham in the store, but thats some pretty cheap ham

Exactly. It was reported that Food Lion sold ham for .79 cents per pound. I'm guessing someone was comparing real ham to that little package of generic trimmings that are chopped, pressed and formed into blocks of "meat" for shaving razor thin. As I said, it depends on the quality of the product how much you will spend.

 

[Angel Heart]

Depends on the quality of the product.

If it's to the food banks, it should be the cheapest available if anything at all...

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benjamin Franklin

It's giving them a fish vs teaching them to fish.

based on what was reported, they paid something like $1.50/lb
dont know when the last time you bought ham in the store, but thats some pretty cheap ham

That's awesome but we should be buying any of it.

 

[DiveCon]

If it's to the food banks, it should be the cheapest available if anything at all...

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benjamin Franklin

It's giving them a fish vs teaching them to fish.

based on what was reported, they paid something like $1.50/lb
dont know when the last time you bought ham in the store, but thats some pretty cheap ham

That's awesome but we should be buying any of it.

the question of if we should be or not is not really the issue at this point
there is a lot of crap this government is doing, and HAS been doing for years, that they shouldnt be doing

 

[kwc57]

based on what was reported, they paid something like $1.50/lb
dont know when the last time you bought ham in the store, but thats some pretty cheap ham

That's awesome but we should be buying any of it.

the question of if we should be or not is not really the issue at this point
there is a lot of crap this government is doing, and HAS been doing for years, that they shouldnt be doing

Truth and honesty. Hell, I remember eating gubmint cheese at my dear old granny's house back around 1960.

 

[DiveCon]

That's awesome but we should be buying any of it.

the question of if we should be or not is not really the issue at this point
there is a lot of crap this government is doing, and HAS been doing for years, that they shouldnt be doing

Truth and honesty. Hell, I remember eating gubmint cheese at my dear old granny's house back around 1960.

you sure that wasnt in the 80's?

 

[kwc57]

the question of if we should be or not is not really the issue at this point
there is a lot of crap this government is doing, and HAS been doing for years, that they shouldnt be doing

Truth and honesty. Hell, I remember eating gubmint cheese at my dear old granny's house back around 1960.

you sure that wasnt in the 80's?

That would have been some old moldy cheese since she died in 62.

 

[DiveCon]

Truth and honesty. Hell, I remember eating gubmint cheese at my dear old granny's house back around 1960.

you sure that wasnt in the 80's?

That would have been some old moldy cheese since she died in 62.

well, cheese does improve with age, so they say

but i remember Reagan sending out the tons of cheese the government had in storage from the milk subsidies they had
also the tons of canned peanut butter(and that was some damn good PB too)

 

[QUENTIN]

So wait, it was demonstrated that the money went to not 2lb of ham, but 760,000, meaning no government waste and people are still angry about it and condemning it?

And it turns out the company's award was totally legitimate, and that in fact their campaign contributions are of normal amounts and usually go to Republicans... but you're still claiming all this corruption?

Man, you guys will cling to anything in the face of overwhelming facts proving you wrong. It's sad.

 

[MaggieMae]

Contracts - Recipient Summary | Recovery.gov

Don't know. It says contract funds "available." If you question it, off to the right of the page there's a link to report fraud or abuse. Have at it.

 

[DiveCon]

So wait, it was demonstrated that the money went to not 2lb of ham, but 760,000, meaning no government waste and people are still angry about it and condemning it?

And it turns out the company's award was totally legitimate, and that in fact their campaign contributions are of normal amounts and usually go to Republicans... but you're still claiming all this corruption?

Man, you guys will cling to anything in the face of overwhelming facts proving you wrong. It's sad.

um, hey, pull back the broad brush
Republican here, not outraged

 

[kwc57]

you sure that wasnt in the 80's?

That would have been some old moldy cheese since she died in 62.

well, cheese does improve with age, so they say

but i remember Reagan sending out the tons of cheese the government had in storage from the milk subsidies they had
also the tons of canned peanut butter(and that was some damn good PB too)

Damn that I was gainfully employed as I am a major fan of fine PB.

 

[DiveCon]

That would have been some old moldy cheese since she died in 62.

well, cheese does improve with age, so they say

but i remember Reagan sending out the tons of cheese the government had in storage from the milk subsidies they had
also the tons of canned peanut butter(and that was some damn good PB too)

Damn that I was gainfully employed as I am a major fan of fine PB.

my dad had some given to him when i was a kid
LOL
only way i know

 

[chanel]

The good news in this is that people will be checking. And hopefully following uo on whether that 500K dumbwaiter actually walks and serves the guests. Lol

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The good news in this is that people will be checking. And hopefully following uo on whether that 500K dumbwaiter actually walks and serves the guests. Lol

They needed the dumbwaiter to transport the $1 million a pound ham. You have to be really careful with it, you wouldn't want to drop ham that's so expensive.

 

[alan1]

Again, just how STUPID do you have to be to even think for 1 second that that was the price paid for a mere 2 lbs of ham????
Do you really think Drudge didn't at least try to confirm whether it was for only 2 lbs of ham??? And if you believe he didn't make any attempt to follow up, what does that say about CON$ervative media???
CON$ hate America soooooo much that they want to believe everything bad about its government no matter how obviously wrong the claim might be.

Look, Ed, do you honestly believe anyone actually believed that's what was paid for a mere two pounds of ham? Seriously? I know that, for me, it was simply an opportunity to have a little fun. I can remember the days when the government would pay $600.00 for a hammer or a toilet seat.

Drudge didn't pick up on this until this morning sometime, hours after this thread was started. Though I haven't been to the Drudge site for weeks, I went to the trouble of searching the archives over there for the sake of accuracy. While I was over there, I also noticed that he had a link to Vilsac's explanation of the charges for the ham in question which I posted earlier. Is that enough follow up for you?

As for hating America... I don't think anyone here hates America, not even you. Just because someone does not share your views or my views doesn't mean they hate America, it just means that they don't agree with our views.

Since the reply from Vilsac was a REPLY to Drudge's report, your "archive" with Vilsac's link could not be Drudge's first posting of the story. So no, that is not enough of a follow up for me.

USDA Releases A Rare Response To Drudge On Ham | HULIQ

USDA Releases A Rare Response To Drudge On Ham

It's not everyday that you see a government agency like USA responding to Drudge Report. Now USA has responded to Drudge's report on Glougherty Packing, LLC 2 pound frozen ham slicing funding and says it's not what you think it is.

Here is what USDA said in its own release: Response to Drudge Item on Recovery Act Funding. Statement from Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.

"Through the Recovery Act, the U.S. Department of Agriculture has made $100 million available to the states for The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP), which acquires food that is distributed to local organizations that assist the needy – including food banks, food pantries, and soup kitchens.

The Recovery Act funds referenced in press reports allowed states to purchase ham, cheese and dairy products for these food banks, soup kitchens and food pantries that provide assistance to people who otherwise do not have access to food. This program will help reduce hunger of those hardest hit by the current economic recession.

The references to "2 pound frozen ham sliced" are to the sizes of the packaging. Press reports suggesting that the Recovery Act spent $1.191 million to buy "2 pounds of ham" are wrong. In fact, the contract in question purchased 760,000 pounds of ham for $1.191 million, at a cost of approximately $1.50 per pound.

Silly me, I thought the point of the stimulus package was to put people to work, not put packages of ham and cheese in their refrigerator. If they were working, they could buy their own ham and cheese.

 

[DiveCon]

The good news in this is that people will be checking. And hopefully following uo on whether that 500K dumbwaiter actually walks and serves the guests. Lol

They needed the dumbwaiter to transport the $1 million a pound ham. You have to be really careful with it, you wouldn't want to drop ham that's so expensive.

you got the price of the ham wrong
they paid about $1.50/lbs
thats some pretty cheap ham if you ask me

 

[Modbert]

you got the price of the ham wrong
they paid about $1.50/lbs
thats some pretty cheap ham if you ask me

Cheap and good tasting ham? Yum