Did Russia Swing As Many Votes As the Illegal Alien Vote?

[Yarddog]

Man. Are you guys ever gonna be pissed!

Give them some credit, it has been almost a month since they posted this voter fraud BS. That might be a new record for them. They must have gotten a new talking points email this weekend that included voter fraud.

Denying the evidence of voter fraud won't make it go away. I'm guessing you haven't read any of the research on illegal alien voting.

Give us some "credible" PROOF of illegal alien voting - including those who have been prosecuted. Even Trump gave up on that crazy shit.

Trump Disbands Commission on Voter Fraud - The New York Times

Why would California legislature, or its governor, Senators, etc.. ever propose such an investigation? This is basically a sanctuary state that instructs their Law enforcement officers to not cooperate with ICE when violent people are arrested and they happen to be here illegaly? why would we believe anything they have to say as credible when they only practice the end run around the laws anyway? If you live here in Cali like I do, having lived in Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Central valley near Modesto, and the Bay area... you can see that things here are extremely lax, you talk to enough people around over years and you know whats going on. Its not necessarily the kind of thing you find an internet link for

 

[busybee01]

The evidence is already clear that Russian meddling did not determine the outcome of the election, and that whatever influence the Russians exerted on the vote count was minuscule and insignificant. Moreover, the illegal alien vote dwarfed the small number of votes generated/swayed by Russian meddling.

A 2013 National Hispanic Survey study by Republican pollster John McLaughlin asked a sample of 800 likely Hispanic voters if they were American citizens. 13 percent admitted they were not. About 12 million Hispanics voted in the 2016 election. If only 10 percent of them were illegals, then 1.2 million illegals voted. If 13 percent of them were illegals, then 1.5 million illegals voted. Based on several third-party studies, Judicial Watch estimates that 1.1 million illegals voted in 2016.

Keep in mind that just five days before the 2016 election, President Obama, the man charged with upholding our laws, clearly seemed to assure illegal aliens that they would *not* be prosecuted if they voted; at the very least, he allowed to go unchallenged the claim that illegal aliens were unjustly discouraged from voting because they were afraid they would be prosecuted for voting.

In East Chicago, Indiana, a city with 30,000 residents, voting fraud was so systemic in 2003 that the State Supreme Court ordered a new election with heightened verification. When unlawful voters were prohibited from casting a ballot, the outcome of the election changed.

By the way, the DREAM Act bills that Dems submitted in the House and Senate both contain provisions that allow illegal aliens who have voted to still qualify for legal status, i.e., they give amnesty for voting illegally. Now, gee, if illegal alien voting is so minimal or non-existent, why the need to insert such a clause in both of the Dreamer bills?

Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Illegal Alien Voting

Can ICE Solve the Vexing Question of How Often Aliens Vote Illegally?

Judicial Watch: 1.1 million illegals voted for Hillary in 2016 - The American Mirror

Undermining America: Did Obama Just Encourage Illegals to Vote?

The fact is that we will never know how much of a effect the Russians had on the election. Clinton might have won or still lost had the Russians not interfered. There is no evidence of any widespread voter fraud in 2016. There is a old saying, "figures lie and liars figure". That describes the sources you rely on.