Did Jesus Say All Rich People Go To Hell

[IndependntLogic]

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So ain't no rich folk in heaven?

 

[The Infidel]

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So ain't no rich folk in heaven?

" The followers were more amazed and said to each other, "Then who can be saved?"
Jesus looked at the followers and said,
"This is something that people cannot do themselves. It must come from God. God can do all things."

 

[IndependntLogic]

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So ain't no rich folk in heaven?

" The followers were more amazed and said to each other, "Then who can be saved?"
Jesus looked at the followers and said,
"This is something that people cannot do themselves. It must come from God. God can do all things."

And yet there it is, still being harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.
So what do you think He meant?

 

[California Girl]

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So ain't no rich folk in heaven?

" The followers were more amazed and said to each other, "Then who can be saved?"
Jesus looked at the followers and said,
"This is something that people cannot do themselves. It must come from God. God can do all things."

And yet there it is, still being harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.
So what do you think He meant?

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

 

[IndependntLogic]

" The followers were more amazed and said to each other, "Then who can be saved?"
Jesus looked at the followers and said,
"This is something that people cannot do themselves. It must come from God. God can do all things."

And yet there it is, still being harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.
So what do you think He meant?

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

Outstanding! And yes, it's "rope". They used to sew their clothes by pulling the threads from a rope. When they got distracted, the thread would tear and they would have to tie a new piece on. All those little knots made the fabric coarse.
It took tremendous discipline and focus on the task to sew a garment from a single thread!
When you're rich, the temptations come every day and in abundance. You have to stay focused or you end up another John Edwards or Newt Gingrich.

Great post!

Of course, our interpretation isn't the only one and a lot of people subscribe to either the animal or the Gate to Jeruselum interpretation. I'll be curious to see what else pops up.

 

[Ravi]

" The followers were more amazed and said to each other, "Then who can be saved?"
Jesus looked at the followers and said,
"This is something that people cannot do themselves. It must come from God. God can do all things."

And yet there it is, still being harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.
So what do you think He meant?

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

You mean there might be translation mistakes in the bible???

 

[IndependntLogic]

And yet there it is, still being harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.
So what do you think He meant?

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

You mean there might be translation mistakes in the bible???

Tons. In this case, the difference between the word "Rope" and "Camel" was just a simple dot above a letter in rope. Now suppose there was a bug on a heavy scroll as it was being rolled up. Suppose it got squished just in the right place and looked like a dot above rope...

 

[konradv]

And yet there it is, still being harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.
So what do you think He meant?

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

Outstanding! And yes, it's "rope". They used to sew their clothes by pulling the threads from a rope. When they got distracted, the thread would tear and they would have to tie a new piece on. All those little knots made the fabric coarse.
It took tremendous discipline and focus on the task to sew a garment from a single thread!
When you're rich, the temptations come every day and in abundance. You have to stay focused or you end up another John Edwards or Newt Gingrich.

Great post!

Of course, our interpretation isn't the only one and a lot of people subscribe to either the animal or the Gate to Jeruselum interpretation. I'll be curious to see what else pops up.

That's not considered as a likely interpretation according to Wiki. That interpretation is backed up by the Koran, which also says "camel" and would not have the same problem with regard to the words for "camel" and "rope" being similar in Greek.

Eye of a needle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[chikenwing]

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

You mean there might be translation mistakes in the bible???

Tons. In this case, the difference between the word "Rope" and "Camel" was just a simple dot above a letter in rope. Now suppose there was a bug on a heavy scroll as it was being rolled up. Suppose it got squished just in the right place and looked like a dot above rope...

Some see it this way,They stand on the faith that God being GOD wouldn't allow his word to be corrupted with mistranslation.

 

[konradv]

BTW, my interpretation is simple, exaggeration to make a point, e.g. I told you a million times to...

 

[The Infidel]

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

You mean there might be translation mistakes in the bible???

Tons. In this case, the difference between the word "Rope" and "Camel" was just a simple dot above a letter in rope. Now suppose there was a bug on a heavy scroll as it was being rolled up. Suppose it got squished just in the right place and looked like a dot above rope...

Nice... I actually learned something from this thread. Thanks guys!

I believe if a pastor does not go back to original texts or meanings he is not worth his salt, and I will not sit in their congregation.

 

[Intense]

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So ain't no rich folk in heaven?

Did Jesus Say All Rich People Go To Hell?
No.

 

[IndependntLogic]

BTW, my interpretation is simple, exaggeration to make a point, e.g. I told you a million times to...

THAT is a great intepretation!
I'm personally still with rope though. It makes the most sense and is backed up by ancient Aramaic idiom - but that doesn't mean any disrespect for yours. Seriously, who KNOWS?

 

[percysunshine]

Did Jesus Say All Rich People Go To Hell?

No. That was Charlie Sheen. Which is kind of ironic.

 

[Ravi]

In biblical times, having wealth was seen as being blessed by God. Therefore, one cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven without God's grace. Wealth though, can distract from one's core purpose.... so the wealthy must be wary that they do not make assumptions that they are automatically blessed by God.... but, no, he was not saying no rich folks go to heaven.

There is a school of thought that says the word 'camel' should be 'cable' (or a thick rope).

Outstanding! And yes, it's "rope". They used to sew their clothes by pulling the threads from a rope. When they got distracted, the thread would tear and they would have to tie a new piece on. All those little knots made the fabric coarse.
It took tremendous discipline and focus on the task to sew a garment from a single thread!
When you're rich, the temptations come every day and in abundance. You have to stay focused or you end up another John Edwards or Newt Gingrich.

Great post!

Of course, our interpretation isn't the only one and a lot of people subscribe to either the animal or the Gate to Jeruselum interpretation. I'll be curious to see what else pops up.

That's not considered as a likely interpretation according to Wiki. That interpretation is backed up by the Koran, which also says "camel" and would not have the same problem with regard to the words for "camel" and "rope" being similar in Greek.

Eye of a needle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought the original gospels were written in Aramic?

Anyway, didn't the Koran get written about six hundred years later? I imagine it drew heavily on Christian and Jewish writings and legends.

 

[IndependntLogic]

Outstanding! And yes, it's "rope". They used to sew their clothes by pulling the threads from a rope. When they got distracted, the thread would tear and they would have to tie a new piece on. All those little knots made the fabric coarse.
It took tremendous discipline and focus on the task to sew a garment from a single thread!
When you're rich, the temptations come every day and in abundance. You have to stay focused or you end up another John Edwards or Newt Gingrich.

Great post!

Of course, our interpretation isn't the only one and a lot of people subscribe to either the animal or the Gate to Jeruselum interpretation. I'll be curious to see what else pops up.

That's not considered as a likely interpretation according to Wiki. That interpretation is backed up by the Koran, which also says "camel" and would not have the same problem with regard to the words for "camel" and "rope" being similar in Greek.

Eye of a needle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought the original gospels were written in Aramic?

Anyway, didn't the Koran get written about six hundred years later? I imagine it drew heavily on Christian and Jewish writings and legends.

originally, the whole danm thing was memorized. For hundreds of years. No room for error there!
Then it was written onto scrolls. Ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Then translated into more modern versions. Then Latin. And so on. But you know, nothing was ever lost in translation...

 

[konradv]

Outstanding! And yes, it's "rope". They used to sew their clothes by pulling the threads from a rope. When they got distracted, the thread would tear and they would have to tie a new piece on. All those little knots made the fabric coarse.
It took tremendous discipline and focus on the task to sew a garment from a single thread!
When you're rich, the temptations come every day and in abundance. You have to stay focused or you end up another John Edwards or Newt Gingrich.

Great post!

Of course, our interpretation isn't the only one and a lot of people subscribe to either the animal or the Gate to Jeruselum interpretation. I'll be curious to see what else pops up.

That's not considered as a likely interpretation according to Wiki. That interpretation is backed up by the Koran, which also says "camel" and would not have the same problem with regard to the words for "camel" and "rope" being similar in Greek.

Eye of a needle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought the original gospels were written in Aramic?

Anyway, didn't the Koran get written about six hundred years later? I imagine it drew heavily on Christian and Jewish writings and legends.

That is true that they may have heard the story, but would they have heard it in Greek, the language in question? While some writings may have been in Aramaic, most of the known scriptures are in Greek.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

So ain't no rich folk in heaven?

How did you go from A to Fail so quickly?

 

[Ravi]

That's not considered as a likely interpretation according to Wiki. That interpretation is backed up by the Koran, which also says "camel" and would not have the same problem with regard to the words for "camel" and "rope" being similar in Greek.

Eye of a needle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought the original gospels were written in Aramic?

Anyway, didn't the Koran get written about six hundred years later? I imagine it drew heavily on Christian and Jewish writings and legends.

That is true that they may have heard the story, but would they have heard it in Greek, the language in question? While some writings may have been in Aramaic, most of the known scriptures are in Greek.

Common language, prolly.

 

[Intense]

That's not considered as a likely interpretation according to Wiki. That interpretation is backed up by the Koran, which also says "camel" and would not have the same problem with regard to the words for "camel" and "rope" being similar in Greek.

Eye of a needle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought the original gospels were written in Aramic?

Anyway, didn't the Koran get written about six hundred years later? I imagine it drew heavily on Christian and Jewish writings and legends.

That is true that they may have heard the story, but would they have heard it in Greek, the language in question? While some writings may have been in Aramaic, most of the known scriptures are in Greek.

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