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If being smart, means being as conceited and pompous as you, I would just as soon, remain stupid, so I can at least go out in the rain, and not drown.Everything can and should be questioned. And that's the whole point. I question that your messiah even exists and so I resist the notion that I should live my life with him as my example and standard.
Yes. The question is seeking an answer. Do your research.
Almost all scholars agree that Jesus is a real historical figure.
I simply know that not to be true. A great many historians are highly skeptical of his existence.
It's not the quantity of the scholars, but the quality of the scholars.
I agree, I do argue that same point against Christians when they say that there are more of them than there are atheists so I'd be a hypocrite not to agree with that statement. Now the challenge is to honestly determine which scholars are more accomplished,.
Heheh you do realize I don't prejudge works. When looking at a work from an expert in their field, one should not consider the reputation of the expert, but the work itself. Look at the validity of their ideas and how they arrived at their conclusions.
What premise did they use? What evidence do they give? What about counter arguments to their ideas?
Are they misleading others by use of logical fallacies?
Anyways, I have never seen any arguments against I AM that holds up under my scrutiny.
What always ends up happening is that either the arguments uses logical fallacies, or its premise is wrong, or too much presupposition and guessing, terms being redefined, and so on.
What always ends up happening is that I break down the argument and exposes fatal flaw. After that, the come back most of the time is either denial, anger, or the use of the "there is no such thing as objective truth being that all truths are subjective".
Then I groan because they simple won't have the mental capacity to understand the impossibility of, " Being that all truths are subjective, there is no such thing as objective truth, except for the objective truth that there is no such thing as objective truth since all truths are subjective."
I feel sympathy for them because I know it's not their fault that they can't understand. They simply do not have high enough mental capacity to be able to process that level of complexity in thought.
However, it is those people that thinks they are smart and pretend to have knowledge of the subject they are talking about, yet to me they are mediocre at best and love to wallows in their own willful ignorance.
For example, recently I was reading the writings of Karl Marx's and his theories and I was very surprised at how inane and stupid they are. He drones on and on about shit that appear to be smart but in reality is meaningless.
For instance, he talked about helping convert the "fake happiness of people in their current society into the real happiness of Communist society". [Paraphrased].
WTF? That's stupid as shit. What is fake happiness vs. real happiness in society. How can people tell the difference between the two? He never bothered to explain it because he can't explain why happy is not happy.
So stupid the other shits he wrote too.
I have no problem telling people, I aint that smart. I study the Bible, and things related to the Bible, and other religious texts, I have no desire to study anything else, unless I need to use it in some real world application.
I only ever claimed to be strong as an ox, and almost as smart.
A perfect example of how the study of religious dogma to strengthen your faith can come at the loss of studying academics to strengthen your intelligence.
What does that even mean?
It means, your nose is so high up in the air, that if you get caught in a sudden downpour, then you will drown.
In other words, you come off as a snob, and you think you are better than everyone else.
There's no evidence other than Church tradition that Paul was martyred.
But by that logic. Did David Koresh die for a lie? Did Jim Jones die for a lie?
Jim Jones and David Koresh were nut cases that committed suicide. Furthermore, they were to much of cowards to die on their own so they murdered many people with them. Big difference.
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So Paul gave up his life for a lie, eh?
There's no evidence other than Church tradition that Paul was martyred.
But by that logic. Did David Koresh die for a lie? Did Jim Jones die for a lie?
The Death of Apostle Paul Apostle Paul
The Bible does not cover the death of Paul. But experts generally agree that he most likely met the fate of other Christians under Nero in Rome. Even if this were not the case, he was willing to put his life on the line and be thrown to the lions along side he Christian brothers, which is certainly a historical truth.
by what they said?......Since there were no gospels written at the time Nero was "persecuting" the Christians, how could he have told a Christian from a Jew at that point?
So Paul gave up his life for a lie, eh?
Greek Mythology...Spooky demons and spirits.
Very Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
Now let me see that withered hand and Diver's Disease.
I believe he was a real person but that he was just an ordinary person, nothing special about him at all.
Real world here, guy.
Nero didn't persecute the Christians. This is some shit later Christians made up when they were slaughtering their fellow Christians (Arians, Monophysites) for not beleiving the right stuff about the Magic Sky Man.
Since there were no gospels written at the time Nero was "persecuting" the Christians, how could he have told a Christian from a Jew at that point?
The concept of Jesus being "gone" is a line in a musical that directly contadicts dogma."Surely you're not saying we have the resources to save the poor from their lot. There will be poor always pathetically struggling, look at the good things you've got. Think while you still have me, move while you still need me. You'll be lost and you'll be sorry when I'm gone!" - Jesus
The concept of Jesus being "gone" is a line in a musical that directly contadicts dogma."Surely you're not saying we have the resources to save the poor from their lot. There will be poor always pathetically struggling, look at the good things you've got. Think while you still have me, move while you still need me. You'll be lost and you'll be sorry when I'm gone!" - Jesus
It's just that I'm fully aware of how you regard the poor.The concept of Jesus being "gone" is a line in a musical that directly contadicts dogma."Surely you're not saying we have the resources to save the poor from their lot. There will be poor always pathetically struggling, look at the good things you've got. Think while you still have me, move while you still need me. You'll be lost and you'll be sorry when I'm gone!" - Jesus
The oil light is flashing red on your Sense of Humor indicator.
Have it checked
It's just that I'm fully aware of how you regard the poor.The concept of Jesus being "gone" is a line in a musical that directly contadicts dogma."Surely you're not saying we have the resources to save the poor from their lot. There will be poor always pathetically struggling, look at the good things you've got. Think while you still have me, move while you still need me. You'll be lost and you'll be sorry when I'm gone!" - Jesus
The oil light is flashing red on your Sense of Humor indicator.
Have it checked
Um, isn't the whole argument you guys make for "Jesus is Lord" that his followers wouldn't "Die for Lie?"
You know where Jones and Koresh got their crazy ideas that their followers should happily die for them?
From Satan.
Are you willing to take a guess what book they got that idea from?
Source: WikipediaIn a 1976 phone conversation with John Maher, Jones alternately stated that he was an agnostic and an atheist.[41] Despite the Temple's fear that the IRS was investigating its religious tax exemption, Marceline Jones admitted in a 1977 New York Times interview that Jones was trying to promote Marxism in the United States by mobilizing people through religion, citing Mao Zedong as his inspiration.[37] She stated that, "Jim used religion to try to get some people out of the opiate of religion," and had slammed the Bible on the table yelling "I've got to destroy this paper idol!"[37] In one sermon, Jones said that, "You're gonna help yourself, or you'll get no help! There's only one hope of glory; that's within you! Nobody's gonna come out of the sky! There's no heaven up there! We'll have to make heaven down here!"
Source: Trees For Lunch Was Jim Jones a Christian"I’m uh, you know, an agnostic. We have a— some emphasis on the terms of paranormal, because uh, it brings results, uh, there is something to therapeutic healing, all medical science has proven, but we don’t link that with any kind of causative factor of a loving God. Off the record, I don’t believe in any loving God. Our people, I would say, are ninety percent atheist. Uh, we— we think Jesus Christ was a swinger. He taught some pretty damn good things at feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, uh, maybe a little paternalistic, but it’s still uh— all the emphasis of the judgment of character— the only time he ever mentioned judgment at all was in Matthew 25, and it had to do totally with what you were doing for other people, so we— we emphasize the teachings of Christ, but um, we’re a— we are as um— we’re the most unusual church I’ve ever run into.."
1) The Gospels were written years after his supposed life, and they contradict each other on key points.
2) He is not mentioned by a lot of contemporary writers who should have noticed him.
3) He shares a lot of traits with other mythological figures.
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Das Kapital? perhaps?
Well, dang, I always thought Jones was just a communist that used some chicken liver pranks to swindle peoples money. Now I find out that he was actually a self proclaimed Bible hating atheist that used Christianity for tax purposes. You learn new things each day.
Satan has murdered every person that has ever died, period.[
Das Kapital? perhaps?
Well, dang, I always thought Jones was just a communist that used some chicken liver pranks to swindle peoples money. Now I find out that he was actually a self proclaimed Bible hating atheist that used Christianity for tax purposes. You learn new things each day.
Oh, no, it's the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
I deleted your bible thumping diarrhea because it wasn't worth repeating.
The problem with the bible is I have a hard time figuring out which one was the bad guy.
God murders millions of people, while Satan only murders 10 on a bet with God, and Satan is the bad guy? Really?
Satan has murdered every person that has ever died, period.[
Das Kapital? perhaps?
Well, dang, I always thought Jones was just a communist that used some chicken liver pranks to swindle peoples money. Now I find out that he was actually a self proclaimed Bible hating atheist that used Christianity for tax purposes. You learn new things each day.
Oh, no, it's the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
I deleted your bible thumping diarrhea because it wasn't worth repeating.
The problem with the bible is I have a hard time figuring out which one was the bad guy.
God murders millions of people, while Satan only murders 10 on a bet with God, and Satan is the bad guy? Really?
If the serpent had not temped Eve, then sin would not have entered the world, and death would not have entered the world either. Some believe the serpent to be satan, others think satan indwelt the serpent, doesn't matter, either way, satan had a hand in it.
As for you joeb, is the b for blow? joe blow, yeah, that's fits you, so joeblow, what do you know? and be specific, oh wait, you have nothing of interest to say. Go away joeblow.
Every religion, born of Abraham, disagrees with that statement. So, let's see, yep, a lot more people believe there is a satan, than don't believe in him. A whole lot more people!Satan has murdered every person that has ever died, period.[
Das Kapital? perhaps?
Well, dang, I always thought Jones was just a communist that used some chicken liver pranks to swindle peoples money. Now I find out that he was actually a self proclaimed Bible hating atheist that used Christianity for tax purposes. You learn new things each day.
Oh, no, it's the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
I deleted your bible thumping diarrhea because it wasn't worth repeating.
The problem with the bible is I have a hard time figuring out which one was the bad guy.
God murders millions of people, while Satan only murders 10 on a bet with God, and Satan is the bad guy? Really?
If the serpent had not temped Eve, then sin would not have entered the world, and death would not have entered the world either. Some believe the serpent to be satan, others think satan indwelt the serpent, doesn't matter, either way, satan had a hand in it.
As for you joeb, is the b for blow? joe blow, yeah, that's fits you, so joeblow, what do you know? and be specific, oh wait, you have nothing of interest to say. Go away joeblow.
There is no Satan. Period.
