Dick Armey to Tea People: Shhhhh... Don't Tell

[The Rabbi]

No surprise the left wing brainwashees here can't figure out what Armey is saying and can only read the headline.
He's absolutely right, of course. Armey is one of the smartest political operators since Lee Atwater.
And why anyone cares what that ugly dyke Rachel Maddow says is beyond me.

You really are an ignorant hateful asshole, rabbi. It's people like you who post on a forum read all over the world who believe Americans are the real evil empire. To them I say real Americans reject the hateful, willfully ignorant Right Wing neo-conservatives who post their scurrilous prejudices, half-truths and lies.

IOW, you don't get it either.

 

[johnrocks]

This country has gone so far toward the left that we have to conduct "Operation Norman Thomas" in reverse, he said ""The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."

We need to take one or two steps right each time and think ...


"The American people will never knowingly adopt Constitutionalism . But under
the name of ' "Conservatism"they will adopt every fragment of the libertarian/constitutional
program, until one day America will be a Constitutional Republic again , without
knowing how it happened."

That sounds an awful-lot like BUSHCO's reheating of that ol' Tried & True pro-War hustle!!

*

Since I am very libertarian in my beliefs, I want to assure you that there was nothing "BUSHCO" or "pro-War hustle" in my intent, that, I'll leave to the liberals and the social/neo cons that both support that failed nightmarish clusterfuck we call our foreign policy .

 

[johnrocks]

This country has gone so far toward the left that we have to conduct "Operation Norman Thomas" in reverse, he said ""The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."

We need to take one or two steps right each time and think ...


"The American people will never knowingly adopt Constitutionalism . But under
the name of ' "Conservatism"they will adopt every fragment of the libertarian/constitutional
program, until one day America will be a Constitutional Republic again , without
knowing how it happened."

So says the David Duke supporter. lolol

Beats being a Rev. Wright supporter or supporting centralized government by a mile.

 

[rightwinger]

No surprise the left wing brainwashees here can't figure out what Armey is saying and can only read the headline.
He's absolutely right, of course. Armey is one of the smartest political operators since Lee Atwater.
And why anyone cares what that ugly dyke Rachel Maddow says is beyond me.

You really are an ignorant hateful asshole, rabbi. It's people like you who post on a forum read all over the world who believe Americans are the real evil empire. To them I say real Americans reject the hateful, willfully ignorant Right Wing neo-conservatives who post their scurrilous prejudices, half-truths and lies.

IOW, you don't get it either.

Quite obviously, he does get it

 

[Wry Catcher]

Libertarianism has some appeal, but of course it was tried under another name - The Articles of Confederation. I suggest those who support the Tea 'Party' and consider themselve or register as Libertarians read the arguments presented in the first five or so issues of the Federalist Papers.

 

[Tech_Esq]

What lies?

It doesn't matter. The point of this thread was a hatchet job on Armey. Notice there was no response from the other side when I posted the proof that the guy doing the hatchet job for Politico is a leftwing hatchet man whose job it is to write such article about various figures on the right.

Typical ridicule, no substance pieces. Basically, a political gossip column.

Sure it matters you dumbfuck. If you're going to make accusations be prepared to support them or don't make them at all.

Well, I might not be a dumbfuck.

The point is that the entire thing is a baseless hatchet job for the point of taking down a right wing stalwart. So, of course they can't back it up. They've already shown that.

 

[uscitizen]

Paul also put his foot in his mouth talking about cutting farm subsidies.
Most farmers in KY get subsidies and most are right wingers.

He did some fast backtrackinig on that

 

[Lonestar_logic]

It doesn't matter. The point of this thread was a hatchet job on Armey. Notice there was no response from the other side when I posted the proof that the guy doing the hatchet job for Politico is a leftwing hatchet man whose job it is to write such article about various figures on the right.

Typical ridicule, no substance pieces. Basically, a political gossip column.

Sure it matters you dumbfuck. If you're going to make accusations be prepared to support them or don't make them at all.

Well, I might not be a dumbfuck.

The point is that the entire thing is a baseless hatchet job for the point of taking down a right wing stalwart. So, of course they can't back it up. They've already shown that.

My bad, you MIGHT not be such a dumbfuck, but Sheman most certainly is. I just get tired of those leftwing idiots accusing people of lying and then running away when challenged on it.

You're point is well taken.

 

[The Rabbi]

You really are an ignorant hateful asshole, rabbi. It's people like you who post on a forum read all over the world who believe Americans are the real evil empire. To them I say real Americans reject the hateful, willfully ignorant Right Wing neo-conservatives who post their scurrilous prejudices, half-truths and lies.

IOW, you don't get it either.

Quite obviously, he does get it

If you say so, it is proof absolute that he does not. Neither do you.

 

[The Rabbi]

Libertarianism has some appeal, but of course it was tried under another name - The Articles of Confederation. I suggest those who support the Tea 'Party' and consider themselve or register as Libertarians read the arguments presented in the first five or so issues of the Federalist Papers.

The Tea Party is not necessarily a Libertarian movement.
There is no difference between libertarians and progressives.

 

[johnrocks]

Paul also put his foot in his mouth talking about cutting farm subsidies.
Most farmers in KY get subsidies and most are right wingers.

This country is obsessed with handouts; from farm subsidies to subsidizing insurance companies with Medicare Part D and Obamacare to Foreign Aid, he's walking a political tightrope as the son of Ron Paul in that State,lol. I hope he succeeds but the public isn't ready for the whole ideology yet, they are all for cutting your "sacred cow"...just leave theirs alone.

 

[johnrocks]

Libertarianism has some appeal, but of course it was tried under another name - The Articles of Confederation. I suggest those who support the Tea 'Party' and consider themselve or register as Libertarians read the arguments presented in the first five or so issues of the Federalist Papers.

The Tea Party is not necessarily a Libertarian movement.
There is no difference between libertarians and progressives.

Please,lol. Libertarianism is the heart and soul of conservatism or at least that's what Reagan said.

 

[uscitizen]

One note: I am I think the only one on here who can vote for or against Rand Paul.

Bribes accepted.

 

[Paulie]

There is no difference between libertarians and progressives.

You must be kidding me

I haven't met the libertarian who thinks the constitution is a living, breathing document to be interpreted however is convenient.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The quote below is from Wikipedia:

"In 2009, FreedomWorks launched a campaign against health care reform proposals, accusing the Obama administration of attempting to "socialize medicine".[17] Referencing a piece entitled "On Private Conference Call, Tea Party Organizers Say No Reform At All is Goal" on Greg Sargent's liberal blog The Plum Line, [18] Rachel Maddow argued in her investigative report entitled "TRMS Investigates FreedomWorks" [19] that the right's strategy was to disrupt and shut down the August 2009 town hall congressional meetings on health care reform[19] by “scaring real Americans with increasingly paranoid and kooky lies about health care and then providing a script for how to express that fear.”[20] At many of the town halls Democratic "members of Congress have been shouted down, hanged in effigy and taunted by crowds" [21] in an apparent organized effort to rattle the congresspeople presiding over the meetings rather than to seek a compromise solution to health care reform.

The phone conversation cited by Sargent in "On Private Conference Call . . ." was moderated by The Tea Party Patriots, a national co-partner of Dick Armey's FreedomWorks, according to FreedomWorks itself. The Tea Party Patriots website later called for Patriots to begin making calls to melt Congress' phone lines and to weigh in on the health care debate actively, aggressively, and with big numbers. [22] In addition to being the chair of FreedomWorks, Dick Armey was a senior policy adviser for DC-based lobbying firm DLA Piper, whose recent and/or current clients include "pharmaceutical maker Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, ... health care provider Metropolitan Health Networks, and the pharmaceutical firm Medicines Company," [19] all entities that might benefit financially from seeing health care reform defeated. Dick Armey's concurrent posts with both FreedomWorks and DLA Piper became particularly controversial in light of the $1,290,000 DLA Piper received in 2009 from the pharmaceutical company Medicines Co.[23] In the report cited above, Maddow also cited the example of The American Council of Life Insurers, which paid DLA Piper $100,000 shortly before FreedomWorks lobbied to deregulate life insurance, as one instance of a possible conflict of interest involving Armey and the two organizations."

To read the entire article, goggle "Dick Armey". For Rabbi and others who choose to be ignorant, have a blissful day.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The quote below is from Wikipedia:

"In 2009, FreedomWorks launched a campaign against health care reform proposals, accusing the Obama administration of attempting to "socialize medicine".[17] Referencing a piece entitled "On Private Conference Call, Tea Party Organizers Say No Reform At All is Goal" on Greg Sargent's liberal blog The Plum Line, [18] Rachel Maddow argued in her investigative report entitled "TRMS Investigates FreedomWorks" [19] that the right's strategy was to disrupt and shut down the August 2009 town hall congressional meetings on health care reform[19] by “scaring real Americans with increasingly paranoid and kooky lies about health care and then providing a script for how to express that fear.”[20] At many of the town halls Democratic "members of Congress have been shouted down, hanged in effigy and taunted by crowds" [21] in an apparent organized effort to rattle the congresspeople presiding over the meetings rather than to seek a compromise solution to health care reform.

The phone conversation cited by Sargent in "On Private Conference Call . . ." was moderated by The Tea Party Patriots, a national co-partner of Dick Armey's FreedomWorks, according to FreedomWorks itself. The Tea Party Patriots website later called for Patriots to begin making calls to melt Congress' phone lines and to weigh in on the health care debate actively, aggressively, and with big numbers. [22] In addition to being the chair of FreedomWorks, Dick Armey was a senior policy adviser for DC-based lobbying firm DLA Piper, whose recent and/or current clients include "pharmaceutical maker Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, ... health care provider Metropolitan Health Networks, and the pharmaceutical firm Medicines Company," [19] all entities that might benefit financially from seeing health care reform defeated. Dick Armey's concurrent posts with both FreedomWorks and DLA Piper became particularly controversial in light of the $1,290,000 DLA Piper received in 2009 from the pharmaceutical company Medicines Co.[23] In the report cited above, Maddow also cited the example of The American Council of Life Insurers, which paid DLA Piper $100,000 shortly before FreedomWorks lobbied to deregulate life insurance, as one instance of a possible conflict of interest involving Armey and the two organizations."

To read the entire article, goggle "Dick Armey". For Rabbi and others who choose to be ignorant, have a blissful day.

I don't trust Wikipedia. I do use it when arguing with idiots because they don't know any better.

 

[rdean]

The Republican Party is 90% white. When they say, "We want OUR country back", what they mean is we want that "black" guy out of the "WHITE" House.

 

[Paulie]

The Republican Party is 90% white. When they say, "We want OUR country back", what they mean is we want that "black" guy out of the "WHITE" House.

Shut the fuck up.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...

By KENNETH P. VOGEL
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Republican candidates popular with tea party activists should refrain from self-identifying as tea party candidates — and also should stay off MSNBC, Dick Armey said Wednesday.

The former House majority leader, who has emerged as a leading figure within the tea party movement as head of the nonprofit group FreedomWorks told reporters at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, that candidates who call themselves tea party leaders are opening themselves up for more negative scrutiny from hostile media outlets, and he singled out MSNBC as a leading antagonist of the tea party movement and its favored candidates.

“Any legitimate newsperson would be embarrassed to see them pretending to be newspeople,” he said of MSNBC. “They’re not news people. They’re political hacks,” he said, specifically citing the network’s liberal hosts Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. “I’m sorry. I watch that network. I watch that Keith Olberby guy — cracks me up. I know very well he’s never gotten over the Americans beating the Russians in ’80. And he’s got this mean nasty side to him, and it’s entertaining, but don’t tell me he’s a newsperson. It’s a disrespect to the profession.”

Olbermann said Armey "is, as ever, perfectly, wonderfully tone deaf. I actually attended the USA upset of the USSR in Lake Placid in 1980 and it remains one of the most joyous memories of my life as a proud American. I also wonder about why Mr. Armey so happily took money to appear on my show during his days as a paid MSNBC contributor."

Armey’s criticism came after he was asked if he had any advice for tea party-backed candidates such as GOP Senate candidates Rand Paul of Kentucky, who took heat after stumbling under tough questioning from Maddow about whether he supports the Civil Rights Act, and Sharron Angle of Nevada, who has avoided taking questions from most mainstream media outlets.

“Rand Paul made an amateur mistake — a freshman mistake, a rookie mistake. He thought MSNBC was a legitimate news operation. Bless his heart,” Armey said. “If he had called me and said ‘should I go on that show?’ I would have said ‘no, they’re political hacks. They will abuse the truth purposefully for a political purpose.’”

Later, though, Armey said Paul’s “bigger mistake” came in his victory speech after securing the nomination, when he said “I have a message from the tea party. ... We've come to take our government back" and added: "This tea party movement is a message to Washington that we are unhappy and we want things done differently."

Armey said “I think that hurt him more than (the Civil Rights Act exchange), because the principles of liberty won that position and he won by adhering to them.” He quipped that Paul’s reasoning for positioning himself as a tea party leader might have been, “Alright, I don’t have a big enough target on my back. Since the left hates the tea party and they hate me, let’s see if we can get ‘em to double down on me by me claiming to be the leader of the tea party.”

“Don’t ask for more of what you really don’t want,” Armey said. Pointing out that Paul “ran as a Republican — he won the Republican primary,” Armey suggested that Paul and other tea party-backed candidates can remain true to the movement’s limited government principles without becoming targets by declaring themselves tea party leaders.

He recommended that tea party-backed candidates stick to local media outlets and Fox News, which is regarded as friendlier turf for conservatives.

“Fox News for many of us, we believe is more accurate and reliable than most news most of the time, and we are quite comfortable enjoy when we’ve given interviews there,” he said.

Still, he described a “a free, fair, professional press” as crucial to a functioning democracy and said “irrespective of the number of disappointments that you will have in the press — and you will have them, you must always be willing to take a chance on anybody who says ‘I am from the press and I am here to interview you,’ until you know for certain that this is one of the unreliable ones. You should all be thought to be reliable until proven otherwise.”

POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

While his comments/opinion on MSNBC's handling of things tea party related is true and accurate his decision to "Avoid" them is as pathetic as the obama administration's calling out fox news as not being a real news network.

 

[johnrocks]

The Republican Party is 90% white. When they say, "We want OUR country back", what they mean is we want that "black" guy out of the "WHITE" House.

I'd be willing to bet a $100 that most here who your charging that with would support a black like Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell in a heartbeat, it matters not if big government comes in vanilla,chocolate or turkey turd tan....I ain't supportin it.