Dick Armey to Tea People: Shhhhh... Don't Tell

[Mr. Shaman]

LOL, this thread is fuuuuuuuuny.

all the name calling put downs of people are so NORMAL.....

....Primarily, for Republicans.....​

 

[Tech_Esq]

Armey is absolutely right in what he says there.

Overbite's highest and best use is as a pinata. He should be abused as often as possible for both legitimately and illegitimately. It really is the only way to treat such a complete and utter idiot. So, I don't have any problem with that.

His critique of Rand Paul is accurate. His critique of MSLSD is accurate.

A brief Google search for the author Kenneth P. Vogel shows that for the past several years most of his articles could easily be called political hatchet jobs on the right side of the political spectrum for Politico (the left side of the political spectrum founded by members of the Washington Post)

Like these:

* Politico's Vogel discusses the legal implications of Fox figures raising money for the GOP

* Politico reports: "Right-wing talkers go for the gold"

* Politico devotes entire article to Beck announcement that he will announce "big plan" for 9-12 Project
* Sanford had trade mission rendez-vous

* Keeping Palin sequestered

* Mosque debate strains GOP, teaparty

So it seems that even though Politico officially describes Vogel's beat as:

tracks the confluence of money, politics and influence for POLITICO

Reporter Bio - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com

In actuality, he is just focused on GOP opposition research and "reporting" generally in the form of "kneecapping" if that's what passes for "journalism" on the left, I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...

By KENNETH P. VOGEL
Back To Story Page »
Republican candidates popular with tea party activists should refrain from self-identifying as tea party candidates — and also should stay off MSNBC, Dick Armey said Wednesday.

The former House majority leader, who has emerged as a leading figure within the tea party movement as head of the nonprofit group FreedomWorks told reporters at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, that candidates who call themselves tea party leaders are opening themselves up for more negative scrutiny from hostile media outlets, and he singled out MSNBC as a leading antagonist of the tea party movement and its favored candidates.

“Any legitimate newsperson would be embarrassed to see them pretending to be newspeople,” he said of MSNBC. “They’re not news people. They’re political hacks,” he said, specifically citing the network’s liberal hosts Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. “I’m sorry. I watch that network. I watch that Keith Olberby guy — cracks me up. I know very well he’s never gotten over the Americans beating the Russians in ’80. And he’s got this mean nasty side to him, and it’s entertaining, but don’t tell me he’s a newsperson. It’s a disrespect to the profession.”

Olbermann said Armey "is, as ever, perfectly, wonderfully tone deaf. I actually attended the USA upset of the USSR in Lake Placid in 1980 and it remains one of the most joyous memories of my life as a proud American. I also wonder about why Mr. Armey so happily took money to appear on my show during his days as a paid MSNBC contributor."

Armey’s criticism came after he was asked if he had any advice for tea party-backed candidates such as GOP Senate candidates Rand Paul of Kentucky, who took heat after stumbling under tough questioning from Maddow about whether he supports the Civil Rights Act, and Sharron Angle of Nevada, who has avoided taking questions from most mainstream media outlets.

“Rand Paul made an amateur mistake — a freshman mistake, a rookie mistake. He thought MSNBC was a legitimate news operation. Bless his heart,” Armey said. “If he had called me and said ‘should I go on that show?’ I would have said ‘no, they’re political hacks. They will abuse the truth purposefully for a political purpose.’”

Later, though, Armey said Paul’s “bigger mistake” came in his victory speech after securing the nomination, when he said “I have a message from the tea party. ... We've come to take our government back" and added: "This tea party movement is a message to Washington that we are unhappy and we want things done differently."

Armey said “I think that hurt him more than (the Civil Rights Act exchange), because the principles of liberty won that position and he won by adhering to them.” He quipped that Paul’s reasoning for positioning himself as a tea party leader might have been, “Alright, I don’t have a big enough target on my back. Since the left hates the tea party and they hate me, let’s see if we can get ‘em to double down on me by me claiming to be the leader of the tea party.”

“Don’t ask for more of what you really don’t want,” Armey said. Pointing out that Paul “ran as a Republican — he won the Republican primary,” Armey suggested that Paul and other tea party-backed candidates can remain true to the movement’s limited government principles without becoming targets by declaring themselves tea party leaders.

He recommended that tea party-backed candidates stick to local media outlets and Fox News, which is regarded as friendlier turf for conservatives.

“Fox News for many of us, we believe is more accurate and reliable than most news most of the time, and we are quite comfortable enjoy when we’ve given interviews there,” he said.

Still, he described a “a free, fair, professional press” as crucial to a functioning democracy and said “irrespective of the number of disappointments that you will have in the press — and you will have them, you must always be willing to take a chance on anybody who says ‘I am from the press and I am here to interview you,’ until you know for certain that this is one of the unreliable ones. You should all be thought to be reliable until proven otherwise.”

POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

The only thing Armey said that wasn't true was that Rand Paul declared himself a tea Party leader. I've never heard Rand say anything of the sort. As for the rest Armey was pretty much "spot on".

Don't forget his lie about Keith Olbermann.....and, his lying about Freedom Works.

Yeah.....he's a Man o' the people, alright......

​

 

[Tech_Esq]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...



POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

The only thing Armey said that wasn't true was that Rand Paul declared himself a tea Party leader. I've never heard Rand say anything of the sort. As for the rest Armey was pretty much "spot on".

Don't forget his lie about Keith Olbermann.....and, his lying about Freedom Works.

Yeah.....he's a Man o' the people, alright......

​

Keep quoting leftwing hacks.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This country has gone so far toward the left that we have to conduct "Operation Norman Thomas" in reverse, he said ""The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."

We need to take one or two steps right each time and think ...


"The American people will never knowingly adopt Constitutionalism . But under
the name of ' "Conservatism"they will adopt every fragment of the libertarian/constitutional
program, until one day America will be a Constitutional Republic again , without
knowing how it happened."

So says the David Duke supporter. lolol

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Like when Chris Matthews was so mean to Michelle M.

malkin is a vile, nasty little liar... she should be called on everything that comes out of her nasty mouth.

your point?

oh wait... you don't have one.

Malkin is a liar? Care to give some examples there counselor?

"Of course, there are a few problems with Malkin’s description of the story. For example, the fact that it’s not true at all."

​

 

[rightwinger]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...

By KENNETH P. VOGEL
Back To Story Page »
Republican candidates popular with tea party activists should refrain from self-identifying as tea party candidates — and also should stay off MSNBC, Dick Armey said Wednesday.

The former House majority leader, who has emerged as a leading figure within the tea party movement as head of the nonprofit group FreedomWorks told reporters at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, that candidates who call themselves tea party leaders are opening themselves up for more negative scrutiny from hostile media outlets, and he singled out MSNBC as a leading antagonist of the tea party movement and its favored candidates.

“Any legitimate newsperson would be embarrassed to see them pretending to be newspeople,” he said of MSNBC. “They’re not news people. They’re political hacks,” he said, specifically citing the network’s liberal hosts Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. “I’m sorry. I watch that network. I watch that Keith Olberby guy — cracks me up. I know very well he’s never gotten over the Americans beating the Russians in ’80. And he’s got this mean nasty side to him, and it’s entertaining, but don’t tell me he’s a newsperson. It’s a disrespect to the profession.”

Olbermann said Armey "is, as ever, perfectly, wonderfully tone deaf. I actually attended the USA upset of the USSR in Lake Placid in 1980 and it remains one of the most joyous memories of my life as a proud American. I also wonder about why Mr. Armey so happily took money to appear on my show during his days as a paid MSNBC contributor."

Armey’s criticism came after he was asked if he had any advice for tea party-backed candidates such as GOP Senate candidates Rand Paul of Kentucky, who took heat after stumbling under tough questioning from Maddow about whether he supports the Civil Rights Act, and Sharron Angle of Nevada, who has avoided taking questions from most mainstream media outlets.

“Rand Paul made an amateur mistake — a freshman mistake, a rookie mistake. He thought MSNBC was a legitimate news operation. Bless his heart,” Armey said. “If he had called me and said ‘should I go on that show?’ I would have said ‘no, they’re political hacks. They will abuse the truth purposefully for a political purpose.’”

Later, though, Armey said Paul’s “bigger mistake” came in his victory speech after securing the nomination, when he said “I have a message from the tea party. ... We've come to take our government back" and added: "This tea party movement is a message to Washington that we are unhappy and we want things done differently."

Armey said “I think that hurt him more than (the Civil Rights Act exchange), because the principles of liberty won that position and he won by adhering to them.” He quipped that Paul’s reasoning for positioning himself as a tea party leader might have been, “Alright, I don’t have a big enough target on my back. Since the left hates the tea party and they hate me, let’s see if we can get ‘em to double down on me by me claiming to be the leader of the tea party.”

“Don’t ask for more of what you really don’t want,” Armey said. Pointing out that Paul “ran as a Republican — he won the Republican primary,” Armey suggested that Paul and other tea party-backed candidates can remain true to the movement’s limited government principles without becoming targets by declaring themselves tea party leaders.

He recommended that tea party-backed candidates stick to local media outlets and Fox News, which is regarded as friendlier turf for conservatives.

“Fox News for many of us, we believe is more accurate and reliable than most news most of the time, and we are quite comfortable enjoy when we’ve given interviews there,” he said.

Still, he described a “a free, fair, professional press” as crucial to a functioning democracy and said “irrespective of the number of disappointments that you will have in the press — and you will have them, you must always be willing to take a chance on anybody who says ‘I am from the press and I am here to interview you,’ until you know for certain that this is one of the unreliable ones. You should all be thought to be reliable until proven otherwise.”

POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

Their biggest problem with the mean old liberal mainstream media is that they ask questions that have not been cleared in advance. They actually follow up on your responses and ask "What did you mean by that?"

Candidates like Rand Paul and Sharron Angle need to stick to Fox News where they can be sure the right questions are asked.

Not tough ones like "What newspapers do you read?" or "Can you name a Supreme Court decision other than Rowe vs Wade?"

 

[Tech_Esq]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...

By KENNETH P. VOGEL
Back To Story Page »
Republican candidates popular with tea party activists should refrain from self-identifying as tea party candidates — and also should stay off MSNBC, Dick Armey said Wednesday.

The former House majority leader, who has emerged as a leading figure within the tea party movement as head of the nonprofit group FreedomWorks told reporters at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, that candidates who call themselves tea party leaders are opening themselves up for more negative scrutiny from hostile media outlets, and he singled out MSNBC as a leading antagonist of the tea party movement and its favored candidates.

“Any legitimate newsperson would be embarrassed to see them pretending to be newspeople,” he said of MSNBC. “They’re not news people. They’re political hacks,” he said, specifically citing the network’s liberal hosts Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. “I’m sorry. I watch that network. I watch that Keith Olberby guy — cracks me up. I know very well he’s never gotten over the Americans beating the Russians in ’80. And he’s got this mean nasty side to him, and it’s entertaining, but don’t tell me he’s a newsperson. It’s a disrespect to the profession.”

Olbermann said Armey "is, as ever, perfectly, wonderfully tone deaf. I actually attended the USA upset of the USSR in Lake Placid in 1980 and it remains one of the most joyous memories of my life as a proud American. I also wonder about why Mr. Armey so happily took money to appear on my show during his days as a paid MSNBC contributor."

Armey’s criticism came after he was asked if he had any advice for tea party-backed candidates such as GOP Senate candidates Rand Paul of Kentucky, who took heat after stumbling under tough questioning from Maddow about whether he supports the Civil Rights Act, and Sharron Angle of Nevada, who has avoided taking questions from most mainstream media outlets.

“Rand Paul made an amateur mistake — a freshman mistake, a rookie mistake. He thought MSNBC was a legitimate news operation. Bless his heart,” Armey said. “If he had called me and said ‘should I go on that show?’ I would have said ‘no, they’re political hacks. They will abuse the truth purposefully for a political purpose.’”

Later, though, Armey said Paul’s “bigger mistake” came in his victory speech after securing the nomination, when he said “I have a message from the tea party. ... We've come to take our government back" and added: "This tea party movement is a message to Washington that we are unhappy and we want things done differently."

Armey said “I think that hurt him more than (the Civil Rights Act exchange), because the principles of liberty won that position and he won by adhering to them.” He quipped that Paul’s reasoning for positioning himself as a tea party leader might have been, “Alright, I don’t have a big enough target on my back. Since the left hates the tea party and they hate me, let’s see if we can get ‘em to double down on me by me claiming to be the leader of the tea party.”

“Don’t ask for more of what you really don’t want,” Armey said. Pointing out that Paul “ran as a Republican — he won the Republican primary,” Armey suggested that Paul and other tea party-backed candidates can remain true to the movement’s limited government principles without becoming targets by declaring themselves tea party leaders.

He recommended that tea party-backed candidates stick to local media outlets and Fox News, which is regarded as friendlier turf for conservatives.

“Fox News for many of us, we believe is more accurate and reliable than most news most of the time, and we are quite comfortable enjoy when we’ve given interviews there,” he said.

Still, he described a “a free, fair, professional press” as crucial to a functioning democracy and said “irrespective of the number of disappointments that you will have in the press — and you will have them, you must always be willing to take a chance on anybody who says ‘I am from the press and I am here to interview you,’ until you know for certain that this is one of the unreliable ones. You should all be thought to be reliable until proven otherwise.”

POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

Their biggest problem with the mean old liberal mainstream media is that they ask questions that have not been cleared in advance. They actually follow up on your responses and ask "What did you mean by that?"

Candidates like Rand Paul and Sharron Angle need to stick to Fox News where they can be sure the right questions are asked.

Not tough ones like "What newspapers do you read?" or "Can you name a Supreme Court decision other than Rowe vs Wade?"

Right.

It wouldn't be that they put on 6 liberal hacks to one sacrificial goat on every show they do.

It wouldn't be that they ONLY ask follow ups or even hard question of the opposition.

It wouldn't be that they are cheerleaders and help their liberal adherents to an extent that would make FOX blush.

It wouldn't be that their commentary on the news, during the "NEWS" is laced with ridicule for the other political side.

No, none of that would be pertinent.

Pulllllease.

 

[Truthmatters]

No surprise the left wing brainwashees here can't figure out what Armey is saying and can only read the headline.
He's absolutely right, of course. Armey is one of the smartest political operators since Lee Atwater.
And why anyone cares what that ugly dyke Rachel Maddow says is beyond me.

the majority of reality is beyond you

 

[Truthmatters]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...



POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

Their biggest problem with the mean old liberal mainstream media is that they ask questions that have not been cleared in advance. They actually follow up on your responses and ask "What did you mean by that?"

Candidates like Rand Paul and Sharron Angle need to stick to Fox News where they can be sure the right questions are asked.

Not tough ones like "What newspapers do you read?" or "Can you name a Supreme Court decision other than Rowe vs Wade?"

Right.

It wouldn't be that they put on 6 liberal hacks to one sacrificial goat on every show they do.

It wouldn't be that they ONLY ask follow ups or even hard question of the opposition.

It wouldn't be that they are cheerleaders and help their liberal adherents to an extent that would make FOX blush.

It wouldn't be that their commentary on the news, during the "NEWS" is laced with ridicule for the other political side.

No, none of that would be pertinent.

Pulllllease.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you are so in the Fox pocket you think the rest of the world is skewwed

 

[NYcarbineer]

Armey is demonstrating the allignment of media sources with political dogma that begat with national television news broadcasts, begat radio conservative talk shows, which begat MSNBC, which begat FNC...

The media has gotten out of control, and finding unbias reporting of news is almost becomming impossible.

None of you could bear watching BBC America, because there you will not find commentary, talking heads ready to attack an oppositional POV, or wild ravings.

As I've said for years, the commercial media doesn't give you the news,

they sell you the news.

You pay with your patronage (or potential patronage) of their advertisers. Their advertisers pay for viewers; raw news objectively presented, with depth and detail, according to its real importance in the real world, is not a great attractant of viewers.

So the news has become an accessory to the primary purpose of the cable 'news' channels -

the news is the straight man that sets up the rest of the act, i.e., the part that's supposed to get you to watch, the part that pays the bills.

 

[Sarah G]

Like when Chris Matthews was so mean to Michelle M.

malkin is a vile, nasty little liar... she should be called on everything that comes out of her nasty mouth.

your point?

oh wait... you don't have one.

Malkin is a disgusting little liar. I think the first time I ever saw her was when she was on Hardball lying about Kerry. Matthews did beat her up and it was really good!

 

[Tech_Esq]

Armey is demonstrating the allignment of media sources with political dogma that begat with national television news broadcasts, begat radio conservative talk shows, which begat MSNBC, which begat FNC...

The media has gotten out of control, and finding unbias reporting of news is almost becomming impossible.

None of you could bear watching BBC America, because there you will not find commentary, talking heads ready to attack an oppositional POV, or wild ravings.

As I've said for years, the commercial media doesn't give you the news,

they sell you the news.

You pay with your patronage (or potential patronage) of their advertisers. Their advertisers pay for viewers; raw news objectively presented, with depth and detail, according to its real importance in the real world, is not a great attractant of viewers.

So the news has become an accessory to the primary purpose of the cable 'news' channels -

the news is the straight man that sets up the rest of the act, i.e., the part that's supposed to get you to watch, the part that pays the bills.

I think what you say is true. But, I don't think it's new. There was a brief period when we were convinced the the reporters were dispassionate denominators of "objective truth," but in point of fact, we were probably only fooling ourselves by thinking so.

The reality is that throughout history even dating back before the founding of this country and in the colonial period back in England, the newspapers were one party or the other. They gave the news their adherents were interested in and in the manner they wanted to hear it.

So, now we have broadcast media that do the same. No great surprise.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

good to know he's the same disingenuous twit he's always been...



POLITICO Forumsolitics: Armey: Avoid 'tea party' label, MSNBC - POLITICO.com

the best part is the loon is still whining that rachel maddow was mean to poor rand paul. the nerve of her asking him questions and not tossing softballs like faux news.

The only thing Armey said that wasn't true was that Rand Paul declared himself a tea Party leader. I've never heard Rand say anything of the sort. As for the rest Armey was pretty much "spot on".

Don't forget his lie about Keith Olbermann.....and, his lying about Freedom Works.

Yeah.....he's a Man o' the people, alright......

​

What lies?

 

[Tech_Esq]

Like when Chris Matthews was so mean to Michelle M.

malkin is a vile, nasty little liar... she should be called on everything that comes out of her nasty mouth.

your point?

oh wait... you don't have one.

Malkin is a disgusting little liar. I think the first time I ever saw her was when she was on Hardball lying about Kerry. Matthews did beat her up and it was really good!

I tend to like her. Though I'm no expert on her. My wife follows her and her blog closely. But, just hear her tangentially. I don't find her to be a liar though when I have heard her.

Far from being disgusting, I think she's quite attractive, since you wanted to go there....

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Like when Chris Matthews was so mean to Michelle M.

malkin is a vile, nasty little liar... she should be called on everything that comes out of her nasty mouth.

your point?

oh wait... you don't have one.

Malkin is a disgusting little liar. I think the first time I ever saw her was when she was on Hardball lying about Kerry. Matthews did beat her up and it was really good!

At least she's TRYIN' to sound like a Republican!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6p4MJZBtc]YouTube - Michelle Malkin Worst Person in the World Oct 24 2007[/ame]​

 

[Tech_Esq]

The only thing Armey said that wasn't true was that Rand Paul declared himself a tea Party leader. I've never heard Rand say anything of the sort. As for the rest Armey was pretty much "spot on".

Don't forget his lie about Keith Olbermann.....and, his lying about Freedom Works.

Yeah.....he's a Man o' the people, alright......

​

What lies?

It doesn't matter. The point of this thread was a hatchet job on Armey. Notice there was no response from the other side when I posted the proof that the guy doing the hatchet job for Politico is a leftwing hatchet man whose job it is to write such article about various figures on the right.

Typical ridicule, no substance pieces. Basically, a political gossip column.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

malkin is a vile, nasty little liar... she should be called on everything that comes out of her nasty mouth.

your point?

oh wait... you don't have one.

Malkin is a liar? Care to give some examples there counselor?

"Of course, there are a few problems with Malkin’s description of the story. For example, the fact that it’s not true at all."

​

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Fact is dumbass Malkin reported the facts as she knew them at the time. It was later revealed that those facts weren't accurate. Nice try but oyu fail Sheman!!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Don't forget his lie about Keith Olbermann.....and, his lying about Freedom Works.

Yeah.....he's a Man o' the people, alright......

​

What lies?

It doesn't matter. The point of this thread was a hatchet job on Armey. Notice there was no response from the other side when I posted the proof that the guy doing the hatchet job for Politico is a leftwing hatchet man whose job it is to write such article about various figures on the right.

Typical ridicule, no substance pieces. Basically, a political gossip column.

Sure it matters you dumbfuck. If you're going to make accusations be prepared to support them or don't make them at all.

 

[Wry Catcher]

No surprise the left wing brainwashees here can't figure out what Armey is saying and can only read the headline.
He's absolutely right, of course. Armey is one of the smartest political operators since Lee Atwater.
And why anyone cares what that ugly dyke Rachel Maddow says is beyond me.

You really are an ignorant hateful asshole, rabbi. It's people like you who post on a forum read all over the world who believe Americans are the real evil empire. To them I say real Americans reject the hateful, willfully ignorant Right Wing neo-conservatives who post their scurrilous prejudices, half-truths and lies.