Destroying the Constitution

It was CONSERVATIVES who attacked our Capitol to try to overturn our Democracy
People who demonstrated at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, were not trying to overturn our democracy. They wanted to hold off on the vote of electors until we determined if all votes counted in the 2020 election were valid votes. There was (and still is) reason to believe that fraud was committed on election day and later. Unmanned ballot drop boxes are an open invitation to fraud.
 
People who demonstrated at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, were not trying to overturn our democracy. They wanted to hold off on the vote of electors until we determined if all votes counted in the 2020 election were valid votes. There was (and still is) reason to believe that fraud was committed on election day and later. Unmanned ballot drop boxes are an open invitation to fraud.

50 States had already certified their election as fair and legal

Trump tried to get Pence to overturn the Constitutional rights of the states
 
No, actually it was those protesting police brutality

The Capitol was attacked under a TRUMP banner
Our Constitution allows for "peaceable assembly to protest".

Such does not include riots, looting, vandalism, arsons, assaults, murders, attacks upon police stations and Federal buildings. Nor suspension of local and state laws. Declaring such areas as occupation and/or autonomous zones is also another form of insurrection and rebellion. This under the banners of AntiFa and BLM, and other anti-USA organizations.

We are also comparing what happened over several months in scores of cities, versus a couple hours of one day in one building. And an event which might have been a false flag instigated by the Left.

As for "police brutality", that was a subjective and unsupported position and in no way justified months of excess on scale of hundreds of times more crime and violence.

Like most criminals, you Leftist always claim you are innocent and didn't do the harm you did.

You have no credibility.
 
Our Constitution allows for "peaceable assembly to protest".

Such does not include riots, looting, vandalism, arsons, assaults, murders, attacks upon police stations and Federal buildings. Nor suspension of local and state laws. Declaring such areas as occupation and/or autonomous zones is also another form of insurrection and rebellion. This under the banners of AntiFa and BLM, and other anti-USA organizations.

We are also comparing what happened over several months in scores of cities, versus a couple hours of one day in one building. And an event which might have been a false flag instigated by the Left.

As for "police brutality", that was a subjective and unsupported position and in no way justified months of excess on scale of hundreds of times more crime and violence.

Like most criminals, you Leftist always claim you are innocent and didn't do the harm you did.

You have no credibility.
No, we are talking about an assault on our Democracy by a Crybaby Loser
 
No, we are talking about an assault on our Democracy by a Crybaby Loser
That's how you Lefty Liars present such while scrambling to cover your crimes.

Yet just a few years earlier you all were the Crybaby Losers because your queen lost an election, which you all said wasn't authentic and the result of "Russian Interference". When that didn't get enough traction you all then resorted to kangaroo courts of false charges to attempt an impeachment of a legally elected POTUS.

Sorry, but it's you on the Left whom are the scum and villainy that threaten our Republic and are trying to overturn the Constitution.
 
No, we are talking about an assault on our Democracy by a Crybaby Loser
Summer of 2020 was before the election which you traitorous Left rigged. Was no "Crybaby Loser" at the time on the Conservative side of the equation.
There were a lot of you Leftist Insurrectionists trying to overturn current legal systems and government during that Summer of Luv in 2020.
 
No, actually it was those protesting police brutality

The Capitol was attacked under a TRUMP banner
Partly so in the riot's and mayhem based upon the alledged police brutality in question, but ohhhh how you love to ignore the attachments to the activism, otherwise like statue destruction, and every other excuse (1619 project/CRT etc), that is piled on to a crisis being used by the political activist who pounce at the opportunity to attack the whole ball of wax.

You know something, why don't you just quit and squirm back into your hole while the adult's are discussing.
 
Partly so in the riot's and mayhem based upon the alledged police brutality in question, but ohhhh how you love to ignore the attachments to the activism, otherwise like statue destruction, and every other excuse (1619 project/CRT etc), that is piled on to a crisis being used by the political activist who pounce at the opportunity to attack the whole ball of wax.

You know something, why don't you just quit and squirm back into your hole while the adult's are discussing.
Trying to equate the Trump led attack on Democracy to a protest against police brutality just doesn’t cut it
 
Which never actually proves any illegitimate votes
You wouldn't know an illegitimate vote if it punched you in the face!
When more ballots come back then went out, when the dead vote, when some vote more than once, etc., then there is very high probability of something illegitimate occurring.
Once a ballot is out of the mail-in envelope and cast into the ballot box, it is (in theory) untraceable. The only way to prove an illegitimate ballot(vote) is before it is cast.
 
Trying to equate the Trump led attack on Democracy to a protest against police brutality just doesn’t cut it
There was no attack on "Democracy" nor were events of the couple of hours on Jan. 6, 2021 "Trump led". Your post repeats two of the many lies constant streamed from you loonie Left.

You are right, partially, in that a couple hours on one day do not compare to months of insurrection in scores of cities. Not by a long shot even. Your so-called (and mislabeled) "protests" were a Summer long Insurrection, aided and abetted by the Democrats whom pulled a successful, to date, coup to undermine our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and our Republic form of government.

The Democrats and their Leftist puppet masters are playing a dangerous game of dancing close to the edge of Treason and risk plunging this nation into a Civil War. Were things to go that far, it will not be to the benefit of the Left and could be their severe purging from our body politic.
 
None of them. The thing you fail to keep in mind is there are limits to these "rights". Which is what people argue over. There are some who believe the Constitution was meant to be living, breathing document that changed with the times. But its basic tenants would hold. For example, you bray about liberty and freedom. But what you really mean is liberty and freedom..for some. Only those "some" you deem worthy. Not those "different" people.

The only thing I want to see crushed here is the right wing in this country.
Oh, and I'd like to see real conservatives rise up and kick the riff-raff out of their movement.
Other side of that coin is that we real Conservatives would like to see the socialist/communist insurrectionists of the Left-wing in this country crushed and defanged.

And we'd like to see real liberals rise up and kick the riff-raff "AntiFa" and BLMers out of their movement.

As for the first part of your screed, it is not Right which blocks speakers from being on campus or at public forums, it is not the Right which forces one-sided biased history and racial lies and disinformation into our education system, it is not the Right which is trying to steal from the productive to give to the non-productive and deadwood of society. Nor is it the Right which is blocking the pursuit of Prosperity which is essential to sustaining Life and Liberty.

All dangers, real and present within our nation are coming from the Insurrectionist Left and psuedo-liberal~Democrats.
 
None of them. The thing you fail to keep in mind is there are limits to these "rights". Which is what people argue over. There are some who believe the Constitution was meant to be living, breathing document that changed with the times. But its basic tenants would hold. For example, you bray about liberty and freedom. But what you really mean is liberty and freedom..for some. Only those "some" you deem worthy. Not those "different" people.

The only thing I want to see crushed here is the right wing in this country.
Oh, and I'd like to see real conservatives rise up and kick the riff-raff out of their movement.
JONT sez: "The only thing I want to see crushed here is the right wing in this country."

So you want no right to life for conservatives? How would you buy a house if no conservatives set aside money so people could borrow a large sum for say a home or a boat that has a bedroom below so one could travel for a few months to see the world's ports o' call? Face it. If you don't own a home and a yard, you're a renter. If you do, you can invite your friends over for a card game and your kids can have birthday parties to have fun with friends and a nice plate of cake and ice cream, too? Conservatives frequently over save, and to avoid paying taxes :biggrin: one of them might donate a couple of hundred per quarter to the local library to buy kids books, foreign language courses, a computer for public use, comfortable reading chairs, insulated quiet study rooms for a college kid who has to pass a test tomorrow to cram and jam a semester of facts in a given course that could help her or him become a doctor, a teacher, a lawyer, a financial adviser, and a banker who can loan new businesses a start of an idea someone has to improve the lives of other people with, sheeze, life would be boring if from the time the colonists arrived till today, people would still have to pay high taxes to someone far, far away who is too high and mighty to find out if people can afford the taxes. It would be more boring than having to pay $150 to fill up your farm's truck that used to cost $30., so you could deliver your eggs, milk, and livestock to market and to return with turkey chicks to raise and sell as Thanksgiving and the holidays roll around. If you earned money by doing in-home services, somebody else would be getting your profit, and trust me, once you get rid of gas stations, you're going to have to pay an electricity company that has to use fossil fuels times 4 to get you the energy you need for everything that makes life easier and points on the map close enough to travel to, and I promise you that instead of paying $200 a month to drive, run air conditioners, heaters, stoves, garage and workshop equipment, home appliances, computers, tvs, and radios, you'll be paying $1000 a month for electricity only, and your lawn mower will have a cord that could get you electrocuted when the dew falls and you slipped.

Not having a choice would be hell for ya, dude. Freedom is deciding which choice is best for you. Oligarches have a way of forcing people to knock themselves out to make the few rich and the most poor. Communists have a way of pampering the big buffoons and despising the truly poor who likely live in the next thin-walled apartment and granny hates noise, but she doesn't have anywhere else to go.

Maybe if you're top drawer and you don't like ordinary people, you can go live in the oligarchy of your choice worldwide. That way you won't have to watch sports that wind up crippling someone for life or movies about boring oligarchs 7 days a week watching someone else's "good for you" shows. Oh, are we there yet? Well, we will be with no conservatives to be jealous about and their boring prosperity.
 
THis might be the reason they want to destroy the constitution.

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