Deplorable

[beautress]

Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Send 'em back. Problem solved.

Yep

Yep? You want to know why there weren't adequate accommodations? There was no funding granted by Nancy Pelosi and her high-and-mighty majority of Congress, elected on false narratives. Several Republicans did not come back because a Democrat operative opened fire on them one day after hours when they were trying to stay fit playing an innocent baseball workout. The shooter asked several bystanders if those on the field were Congressional Republicans. Nobody knew that he would try to kill them all with his arsenal. Some of those who left the Congress did not want to be targets of criminals who will never have to face justice and are taken out by police agents who become national heroes thereafter. We didn't know if Steve Scalise would survive his life-threatening injuries.

The upcoming election was a field day for AOC types who scream at anybody who opposes her ill-thought narratives and just plain filthy-ugly attitude of superiority.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Idiot. The Border Patrol is not equipped to house people for more than 2 or 3 days. After that they go to a DHS shelter.

ANNNNNNNND why aren't they going to shelters? You may want a life line on this one.

Dumbass. This is a manufactured crisis. The Democrats have deliberately engineered this. They've lured thousands of migrants here specifically to overwhelm our border facilities so they can circumvent our immigration laws. And the more suffering that occurs, the better in their minds. Because they want to build enough public pressure to just release these people. Thanks to Trump. We've finally got a President with the backbone to stand up to this bullshit.

BIDDABLE: "Easily led, meekly and ready to accept and follow instructions." That defines perfectly Cosmos and the inebriated cat lover.

 

[Correll]

Lm dvzrj

Trumpists: a group that supports abusing children for political purposes.

There is no other explanation for not treating children well. These people care more for unborn zygotes then they do for children already born and suffering.

I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

1. They leave behind the supposed push factors, but keeping moving, even at the risk of their own lives and the lives of their children. That disproves the push theory.

2. The border crisis has been festering for decades. Trump did not encourage more children to come. That was people like you.

 

[FA_Q2]

Lm dvzrj

Trumpists: a group that supports abusing children for political purposes.

There is no other explanation for not treating children well. These people care more for unborn zygotes then they do for children already born and suffering.

I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

Because we have never had as many kids crossing before. This is not the imiigration problem of 10 years ago.

This has been pointed out and linked already. Why ignore that fact other than it does not fit the narrative?

 

[WEATHER53]

The kids are pawns and libbies falling for it while trying to gin up some more.

 

[Anathema]

Just curious - would you even be mildly annoyed if someone called you a "Nazi"?

Mildly. I believe my version of Ultra-Conservative Authoritarianism is somewhat different than Hitler’s Social-Nationalist Party; but there are obvious similarities as well.

 

[Coyote]

Lm dvzrj

I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

That's probably the crux of it. Trump's admin doesn't want the kids here who even have relatives to take them in.

There's a reason for that, bendog. It's Congress' job to furnish funding for extreme problems that fall to the President in protecting our borders from not "illegal aliens," but drug pushers who are causing 300 American people between the ages of 14-30 to die of their drug sales slipped over here using caravans to conceal their heinous horror. 52 weeks of losing 300 people each = 15,600 annual deaths of Americans. That excludes the aliens who come over here to collaborate with terrorists, create societal chaos, and who forever hate the USA.

Most drugs don't cross the border that way.

How does that excuse the way these children are being treated?

 

[Coyote]

Amazing that people here regard toddlers as criminals worthy of this treatment.

Obama has the kids shrink wrapped, easier to sell them to the traffickers.

Flashback: Obama Administration placed border children with human smugglers

Obama isn't president. You own this mess and these policies. What are going to do besides blame everyone else for your incompetent and abusive policies?

I didn't hear you make a SINGLE FUCKING PEEP about these stolen kids when your Messiah was President.

And now that we learn that 1 in 3 DO NOT MATCH THE DNA OF THEIR "PARENTS" you still DO NOT MAKE A SINGLE FUCKING PEEP ABOUT THE TRAFFICKED CHILDREN!!

What the fuck is wrong with you?

1 in 3. Of what. All immigrant kids? Or those border officers had reason to to BELIEVE were trafficked? (And when there is a strongsuspician I have no issue with seperatuon) Does this justify your Mezzoah's picy of child abuse at the border?

but you don't blame the parents or the coyotes bringing them in. Why?

you seem to believe we owe them something. nope!!!

how are they our burden?

Because we have them under incarceration. They've become our burden.

We are in control of what happens to them while they are detained.

So yes. It's our responsibility.

Is child abuse ok then, in your view? Are you fine with how they are treated? Let's see if you can answer that directly with out dodging or answering with a question.

 

[Coyote]

Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.

Not so much. but the difference was when Obama couldn't get congress to act in a bipartisan manner to overhaul immigration, and "deterrence" didn't work, the admin shifted to building facilities for temporary housing and moving the children to foster care.

The republicans appear to prefer locking them up indefinitely.

Neither approach is the best we should be able to do, but

Lm dvzrj

I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

You're right. When Obama faced a similar issue, we opted for basically assimilating the kids. For the Gop, placing them in jails is preferable.
President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

Trump would also prefer simply having refugee camps on the southern side of Mexico's border with Guatemala.

But as we've discussed the only solution is a combination of revamping our immigration and assisting central American countries in having functioning societies.

As we've discussed, the only real solution would be

maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.

You lot are such liars. You are just as dishonest as the left when they used pictures of those kids in cages during Obama's tenure and claim they are Trumps.

Here is what you leave out. Those pictures are kids held in temporary 24 hour max detention. Not weeks. Not months. I don't recall conditions like this, do you? Clearly not because you have to bring up the same old canard...you don't have anything else.

 

[Coyote]

Going back to the poll at the start...can anyone explain how a toddler is a criminal who deserves to be treated like that?

 

[Coyote]

Lm dvzrj

Trumpists: a group that supports abusing children for political purposes.

There is no other explanation for not treating children well. These people care more for unborn zygotes then they do for children already born and suffering.

I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

Because we have never had as many kids crossing before. This is not the imiigration problem of 10 years ago.

This has been pointed out and linked already. Why ignore that fact other than it does not fit the narrative?

Yes...we have...we had a huge influx of unaccompanied minors under Obama - and it WAS a crisis. It was much larger than now.

What is the difference between now and then?

A policy of 100 % incarceration.
A policy of 100 % family separation.
A policy that makes it extremely risky for family members to sponsor kids because they fear deportation.

You have more family units crossing the border but guess what -
the number of unaccompanied children crossing the border is much lower than it was in 2014 and 2016.

It would not be as much of a crisis if those policies hadn't been enacted. It is the combination of numbers and deplorable policies, followed by a blatant refusal to do anything about it, and a readiness to excuse it.

Well it's not excusable. They are in our hands, under our control, and like it or not we are responsible for the conditions they are in.

 

[Coyote]

Lm dvzrj

Trumpists: a group that supports abusing children for political purposes.

There is no other explanation for not treating children well. These people care more for unborn zygotes then they do for children already born and suffering.

I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

1. They leave behind the supposed push factors, but keeping moving, even at the risk of their own lives and the lives of their children. That disproves the push theory.

2. The border crisis has been festering for decades. Trump did not encourage more children to come. That was people like you.

That is like saying people like are encouraging child abuse.

 

[jc456]

Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.

Not so much. but the difference was when Obama couldn't get congress to act in a bipartisan manner to overhaul immigration, and "deterrence" didn't work, the admin shifted to building facilities for temporary housing and moving the children to foster care.

The republicans appear to prefer locking them up indefinitely.

Neither approach is the best we should be able to do, but

Lm dvzrj

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

You're right. When Obama faced a similar issue, we opted for basically assimilating the kids. For the Gop, placing them in jails is preferable.
President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

Trump would also prefer simply having refugee camps on the southern side of Mexico's border with Guatemala.

But as we've discussed the only solution is a combination of revamping our immigration and assisting central American countries in having functioning societies.

As we've discussed, the only real solution would be

maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.

You lot are such liars. You are just as dishonest as the left when they used pictures of those kids in cages during Obama's tenure and claim they are Trumps.

Here is what you leave out. Those pictures are kids held in temporary 24 hour max detention. Not weeks. Not months. I don't recall conditions like this, do you? Clearly not because you have to bring up the same old canard...you don't have anything else.

Oh bullsnot

 

[Coyote]

Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.

Not so much. but the difference was when Obama couldn't get congress to act in a bipartisan manner to overhaul immigration, and "deterrence" didn't work, the admin shifted to building facilities for temporary housing and moving the children to foster care.

The republicans appear to prefer locking them up indefinitely.

Neither approach is the best we should be able to do, but

Lm dvzrj

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

You're right. When Obama faced a similar issue, we opted for basically assimilating the kids. For the Gop, placing them in jails is preferable.
President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

Trump would also prefer simply having refugee camps on the southern side of Mexico's border with Guatemala.

But as we've discussed the only solution is a combination of revamping our immigration and assisting central American countries in having functioning societies.

As we've discussed, the only real solution would be

maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.

You lot are such liars. You are just as dishonest as the left when they used pictures of those kids in cages during Obama's tenure and claim they are Trumps.

Here is what you leave out. Those pictures are kids held in temporary 24 hour max detention. Not weeks. Not months. I don't recall conditions like this, do you? Clearly not because you have to bring up the same old canard...you don't have anything else.

Oh bullsnot

Prove I am wrong then.

 

[jc456]

Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.

Not so much. but the difference was when Obama couldn't get congress to act in a bipartisan manner to overhaul immigration, and "deterrence" didn't work, the admin shifted to building facilities for temporary housing and moving the children to foster care.

The republicans appear to prefer locking them up indefinitely.

Neither approach is the best we should be able to do, but

Lm dvzrj
1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

You're right. When Obama faced a similar issue, we opted for basically assimilating the kids. For the Gop, placing them in jails is preferable.
President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

Trump would also prefer simply having refugee camps on the southern side of Mexico's border with Guatemala.

But as we've discussed the only solution is a combination of revamping our immigration and assisting central American countries in having functioning societies.

As we've discussed, the only real solution would be

maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.

You lot are such liars. You are just as dishonest as the left when they used pictures of those kids in cages during Obama's tenure and claim they are Trumps.

Here is what you leave out. Those pictures are kids held in temporary 24 hour max detention. Not weeks. Not months. I don't recall conditions like this, do you? Clearly not because you have to bring up the same old canard...you don't have anything else.

Oh bullsnot

Prove I am wrong then.

Prove they were there that long. Without that, you’re wrong

 

[Coyote]

Not so much. but the difference was when Obama couldn't get congress to act in a bipartisan manner to overhaul immigration, and "deterrence" didn't work, the admin shifted to building facilities for temporary housing and moving the children to foster care.

The republicans appear to prefer locking them up indefinitely.

Neither approach is the best we should be able to do, but
You're right. When Obama faced a similar issue, we opted for basically assimilating the kids. For the Gop, placing them in jails is preferable.
President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

Trump would also prefer simply having refugee camps on the southern side of Mexico's border with Guatemala.

But as we've discussed the only solution is a combination of revamping our immigration and assisting central American countries in having functioning societies.

As we've discussed, the only real solution would be

maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.

You lot are such liars. You are just as dishonest as the left when they used pictures of those kids in cages during Obama's tenure and claim they are Trumps.

Here is what you leave out. Those pictures are kids held in temporary 24 hour max detention. Not weeks. Not months. I don't recall conditions like this, do you? Clearly not because you have to bring up the same old canard...you don't have anything else.

Oh bullsnot

Prove I am wrong then.

Prove they were there that long. Without that, you’re wrong

Typical. You dodge the question.

 

[Olde Europe]

Just curious - would you even be mildly annoyed if someone called you a "Nazi"?

Mildly. I believe my version of Ultra-Conservative Authoritarianism is somewhat different than Hitler’s Social-Nationalist Party; but there are obvious similarities as well.

Yep, thought so. And yet, Ultra-Conservative Authoritarianism is what Nazism was at its core. Add your callous disregard for the well-being and the very life of every Other, in conjunction with a penchant for violent national self-assertion pursuant a perennial national fight for survival, along with social Darwinism as underlying philosophy, and you are right there. But then, you're at least forthright and honest about it, while many more of your ilk on here are not, and that demonstrates at least some weird kind of integrity.

 

[Ambivalent1]

maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.

You lot are such liars. You are just as dishonest as the left when they used pictures of those kids in cages during Obama's tenure and claim they are Trumps.

Here is what you leave out. Those pictures are kids held in temporary 24 hour max detention. Not weeks. Not months. I don't recall conditions like this, do you? Clearly not because you have to bring up the same old canard...you don't have anything else.

Oh bullsnot

Prove I am wrong then.

Prove they were there that long. Without that, you’re wrong

Typical. You dodge the question.

So you want someone else to prove a negative, how bright of you.

 

[Correll]

Lm dvzrj

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

That's probably the crux of it. Trump's admin doesn't want the kids here who even have relatives to take them in.

There's a reason for that, bendog. It's Congress' job to furnish funding for extreme problems that fall to the President in protecting our borders from not "illegal aliens," but drug pushers who are causing 300 American people between the ages of 14-30 to die of their drug sales slipped over here using caravans to conceal their heinous horror. 52 weeks of losing 300 people each = 15,600 annual deaths of Americans. That excludes the aliens who come over here to collaborate with terrorists, create societal chaos, and who forever hate the USA.

Most drugs don't cross the border that way.

How does that excuse the way these children are being treated?

Quite a lot of drugs do, and both issues are a slam dunk reason to seal the border, separately, let along considered together.

 

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I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.

What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.

1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

1. They leave behind the supposed push factors, but keeping moving, even at the risk of their own lives and the lives of their children. That disproves the push theory.

2. The border crisis has been festering for decades. Trump did not encourage more children to come. That was people like you.

That is like saying people like are encouraging child abuse.

People like me want to build a Wall to keep these people out of our country, not in camps.

That status quo is what you support.