Democrats want you to believe that they care about the middle class. Lie.

[Jarhead]

Why do you hate the government our founders left us?

They left us a Constitutional Republic, it's hard for you to comprehend this.
Must be a publik skool drop out.

Oh so now you are going to pretend I did not have to TEACH you that is also a democracy huh?

You see this is why we have problems in this country, assholes like you cant debate with the facts so you pretend you know something.

This isnt about how big your balls are fuckwit its about sound policy for our country.

Grow the fuck up or leave the real world to the adults .

why are you not willing to debate policy. It is OK to be poassionate baout your stance on policy, but you are not responding to anything about the validity of alternative policy.

Do you believe that the premise of "fear of failure is a great motivator" is not valid?

Are you able to say and prove with fact that there are children AND adults in this country that are involuntarily dying of starvation? Can you show me valid examples where, in the past 40 years, this has happened?

Are you not aware that Americans are a very giving people and have taken care of the pooor for years WITHOUT some politician getting credit for it?

 

[Capitalist]

Malnutrition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Effects
See also: child mortality and iodine deficiency
[edit] Mortality
According to Jean Ziegler (the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food for 2000 to March 2008), mortality due to malnutrition accounted for 58% of the total mortality in 2006: "In the world, approximately 62 million people, all causes of death combined, die each year. One in twelve people worldwide is malnourished.[12] In 2006, more than 36 million died of hunger or diseases due to deficiencies in micronutrients"[13].

According to the World Health Organization, malnutrition is by far the biggest contributor to child mortality, present in half of all cases.[3] Underweight births and inter-uterine growth restrictions cause 2.2 million child deaths a year. Poor or non-existent breastfeeding causes another 1.4 million. Other deficiencies, such as lack of vitamin A or zinc, for example, account for 1 million. According to The Lancet, malnutrition in the first two years is irreversible. Malnourished children grow up with worse health and lower educational achievements. Their own children also tend to be smaller. Malnutrition was previously seen as something that exacerbates the problems of diseases as measles, pneumonia and diarrhea. But malnutrition actually causes diseases as well, and can be fatal in its own right.[3]

[edit] Illness
Malnutrition increases the risk of infection and infectious disease; for example, it is a major risk factor in the onset of active tuberculosis.[14] In communities or areas that lack access to safe drinking water, these additional health risks present a critical problem. Lower energy and impaired function of the brain also represent the downward spiral of malnutrition as victims are less able to perform the tasks they need to in order to acquire food, earn an income, or gain an education.

Nutrients Deficiency Excess
Food energy Starvation, Marasmus Obesity, diabetes mellitus, Cardiovascular disease
Simple carbohydrates none diabetes mellitus, Obesity
Complex carbohydrates none Obesity
Saturated fat low sex hormone levels [15] Cardiovascular disease
Trans fat none Cardiovascular Disease
Unsaturated fat none Obesity
Fat Malabsorption of Fat-soluble vitamins, Rabbit Starvation (If protein intake is high) Cardiovascular Disease (claimed by some)
Omega 3 Fats Cardiovascular Disease Bleeding, Haemorrhages
Omega 6 Fats none Cardiovascular Disease, Cancer
Cholesterol none Cardiovascular disease
Protein kwashiorkor Rabbit starvation
Sodium hyponatremia Hypernatremia, hypertension
Iron Anemia Cirrhosis, heart disease
Iodine Goiter, hypothyroidism Iodine Toxicity (goiter, hypothyroidism)
Vitamin A Xerophthalmia and Night Blindness, low testosterone levels Hypervitaminosis A (cirrhosis, hair loss)
Vitamin B1 Beri-Beri
Vitamin B2 Cracking of skin and Corneal Ulceration
Vitamin B3 (Niacin) Pellagra dyspepsia, cardiac arrhythmias, birth defects
Vitamin B12 Pernicious anemia
Vitamin C Scurvy diarrhea causing dehydration
Vitamin D Rickets Hypervitaminosis D (dehydration, vomiting, constipation)
Vitamin E nervous disorders Hypervitaminosis E (anticoagulant: excessive bleeding)
Vitamin K Haemorrhage
Calcium Osteoporosis, tetany, carpopedal spasm, laryngospasm, cardiac arrhythmias Fatigue, depression, confusion, anorexia, nausea, vomiting, constipation, pancreatitis, increased urination
Magnesium Hypertension Weakness, nausea, vomiting, impaired breathing, and hypotension
Potassium Hypokalemia, cardiac arrhythmias Hyperkalemia, palpitations

[edit] Psychological
According to the Lancet, Malnutrition, in the form of iodine deficiency, is "the most common preventable cause of mental impairment worldwide."[16] Even moderate iodine deficiency, especially in pregnant women and infants, lowers intelligence by 10 to 15 I.Q. points, shaving incalculable potential off a nation’s development.[16] The most visible and severe effects — disabling goiters, cretinism and dwarfism — affect a tiny minority, usually in mountain villages. But 16 percent of the world’s people have at least mild goiter, a swollen thyroid gland in the neck.[16]

Research indicates that improving the awareness of nutritious meal choices and establishing long-term habits of healthy eating has a positive effect on a cognitive and spatial memory capacity, potentially increasing a student's potential to process and retain academic information.

Some organizations have begun working with teachers, policymakers, and managed foodservice contractors to mandate improved nutritional content and increased nutritional resources in school cafeterias from primary to university level institutions. Health and nutrition have been proven to have close links with overall educational success.[17] Currently less than 10% of American college students report that they eat the recommended five servings of fruit and vegetables daily.[18] Better nutrition has been shown to have an impact on both cognitive and spatial memory performance; a study showed those with higher blood sugar levels performed better on certain memory tests.[19] In another study, those who consumed yogurt performed better on thinking tasks when compared to those who consumed caffeine free diet soda or confections.[20] Nutritional deficiencies have been shown to have a negative effect on learning behavior in mice as far back as 1951.[21]

"Better learning performance is associated with diet induced effects on learning and memory ability".[22]
The "nutrition-learning nexus" demonstrates the correlation between diet and learning and has application in a higher education setting.

"We find that better nourished children perform significantly better in school, partly because they enter school earlier and thus have more time to learn but mostly because of greater learning productivity per year of schooling."[23]
91% of college students feel that they are in good health while only 7% eat their recommended daily allowance of fruits and vegetables.[18]
Nutritional education is an effective and workable model in a higher education setting.[24][25]
More "engaged" learning models that encompass nutrition is an idea that is picking up steam at all levels of the learning cycle.[26]
There is limited research available that directly links a student's Grade Point Average (G.P.A.) to their overall nutritional health. Additional substantive data is needed to prove that overall intellectual health is closely linked to a person's diet, rather than just another correlation fallacy.

Nutritional supplement treatment may be appropriate for major depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and obsessive compulsive disorder, the four most common mental disorders in developed countries.[27] Supplements that have been studied most for mood elevation and stabilization include eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid (each of which are an omega-3 fatty acid contained in fish oil, but not in flaxseed oil), vitamin B12, folic acid, and inositol.

[edit] Cancer
Cancer is now common in developing countries. According a study by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, "In the developing world, cancers of the liver, stomach and esophagus were more common, often linked to consumption of carcinogenic preserved foods, such as smoked or salted food, and parasitic infections that attack organs." Lung cancer rates are rising rapidly in poorer nations because of increased use of tobacco. Developed countries "tended to have cancers linked to affluence or a 'Western lifestyle' — cancers of the colon, rectum, breast and prostate — that can be caused by obesity, lack of exercise, diet and age."[28]

[edit] Metabolic syndrome
Several lines of evidence indicate lifestyle-induced hyperinsulinemia and reduced insulin function (i.e. insulin resistance) as a decisive factor in many disease states. For example, hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance are strongly linked to chronic inflammation, which in turn is strongly linked to a variety of adverse developments such as arterial microinjuries and clot formation (i.e. heart disease) and exaggerated cell division (i.e. cancer). Hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance (the so-called metabolic syndrome) are characterized by a combination of abdominal obesity, elevated blood sugar, elevated blood pressure, elevated blood triglycerides, and reduced HDL cholesterol. The negative impact of hyperinsulinemia on prostaglandin PGE1/PGE2 balance may be significant.

The state of obesity clearly contributes to insulin resistance, which in turn can cause type 2 diabetes. Virtually all obese and most type 2 diabetic individuals have marked insulin resistance. Although the association between overweight and insulin resistance is clear, the exact (likely multifarious) causes of insulin resistance remain less clear. Importantly, it has been demonstrated that appropriate exercise, more regular food intake and reducing glycemic load (see below) all can reverse insulin resistance in overweight individuals (and thereby lower blood sugar levels in those who have type 2 diabetes).

Obesity can unfavourably alter hormonal and metabolic status via resistance to the hormone leptin, and a vicious cycle may occur in which insulin/leptin resistance and obesity aggravate one another. The vicious cycle is putatively fuelled by continuously high insulin/leptin stimulation and fat storage, as a result of high intake of strongly insulin/leptin stimulating foods and energy. Both insulin and leptin normally function as satiety signals to the hypothalamus in the brain; however, insulin/leptin resistance may reduce this signal and therefore allow continued overfeeding despite large body fat stores. In addition, reduced leptin signalling to the brain may reduce leptin's normal effect to maintain an appropriately high metabolic rate.

There is a debate about how and to what extent different dietary factors— such as intake of processed carbohydrates, total protein, fat, and carbohydrate intake, intake of saturated and trans fatty acids, and low intake of vitamins/minerals—contribute to the development of insulin and leptin resistance. In any case, analogous to the way modern man-made pollution may potentially overwhelm the environment's ability to maintain homeostasis, the recent explosive introduction of high glycemic index and processed foods into the human diet may potentially overwhelm the body's ability to maintain homeostasis and health (as evidenced by the metabolic syndrome epidemic).

[edit] Hyponatremia
Excess water intake, without replenishment of sodium and potassium salts, leads to hyponatremia, which can further lead to water intoxication at more dangerous levels. A well-publicized case occurred in 2007, when Jennifer Strange died while participating in a water-drinking contest.[29] More usually, the condition occurs in long-distance endurance events (such as marathon or triathlon competition and training) and causes gradual mental dulling, headache, drowsiness, weakness, and confusion; extreme cases may result in coma, convulsions, and death. The primary damage comes from swelling of the brain, caused by increased osmosis as blood salinity decreases. Effective fluid replacement techniques include Water aid stations during running/cycling races, trainers providing water during team games such as Soccer and devices such as Camel Baks which can provide water for a person without making it too hard to drink the water.

So this is the excuse for trampling peoples rights?
How about global warming, oh wait that was last week.
We should all be willing to sacrifice for the communal good, I see your point.

 

[Vanquish]

Why don't you understand that sometimes people NEED help that they can't get for themselves?

Not every problem or situation is one that someone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Not all help is evul. Learn that.

So people that need help, will be helped by destroying the rights of others.
Wow.........

Where the HELL did you get that idea? 1) I didnt say it 2) you didnt prove that applies to any part of the current government and 3) who the fuck would advocate that.

The idea that helping others via the government somehow inherently MUST hurt other people shows your ignorance. You need to define the word help...then you might get some actual traction with what you're saying.

I bet you're one of those people that misuses the word socialist and communist, aren't you?

 

[Capitalist]

Ummm Jarhead , did you not read all my posts on malnutrition and feeding our future workers for the bernifit of all Americans?

You speak about people like they are ants or bees.

 

[mdn2000]

I am a liberal and what he claimed I believe is not what I believe.

He doesnt get to deside what I believe huh?

So you DONT want to give the poor free fish everyday?
And yes, "fish" is a metaphore....
But you are NOT interested in feeding the poor?

I want to give proper nutrition to anyone who needs it.

I want the cost savings involved with having a society in which people are not suffering the lifetime ills of malnutrition.

You see its very simple you can be a decent society and help your bottom line with a policy that reinsures the workers of tomarrow can compete in a world market keeping this country on top.

Its a win win unless you are a brick brained con who just follows party line with their brain switched off.

There is no world market, only corporations dumping toxic waste outside the Law of the Western world.

 

[Capitalist]

Why do you hate the government our founders left us?

They left us a Constitutional Republic, it's hard for you to comprehend this.
Must be a publik skool drop out.

Oh so now you are going to pretend I did not have to TEACH you that is also a democracy huh?

You see this is why we have problems in this country, assholes like you cant debate with the facts so you pretend you know something.

This isnt about how big your balls are fuckwit its about sound policy for our country.

Grow the fuck up or leave the real world to the adults .

Invective aside, you are wrong.

 

[Truthmatters]

Hes a reactionary idiot who wants something to be mad at.


I have given him GREAT reasons to feed the poor that have nothing to do with being a decent person ( because he hates that one) and he just ignores the posts.


He doesnt want answers that make sense he wants to piss and moan and pretend hes smarter than everyone else.

Typical con.

 

[Capitalist]

Why don't you understand that sometimes people NEED help that they can't get for themselves?

Not every problem or situation is one that someone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Not all help is evul. Learn that.

So people that need help, will be helped by destroying the rights of others.
Wow.........

Where the HELL did you get that idea? 1) I didnt say it 2) you didnt prove that applies to any part of the current government and 3) who the fuck would advocate that.

The idea that helping others via the government somehow inherently MUST hurt other people shows your ignorance. You need to define the word help...then you might get some actual traction with what you're saying.

I bet you're one of those people that misuses the word socialist and communist, aren't you?

How does gov. get the money to help.

 

[Capitalist]

Hes a reactionary idiot who wants something to be mad at.


I have given him GREAT reasons to feed the poor that have nothing to do with being a decent person ( because he hates that one) and he just ignores the posts.


He doesnt want answers that make sense he wants to piss and moan and pretend hes smarter than everyone else.

Typical con.

Nice spin...............

 

[Truthmatters]

They left us a Constitutional Republic, it's hard for you to comprehend this.
Must be a publik skool drop out.

Oh so now you are going to pretend I did not have to TEACH you that is also a democracy huh?

You see this is why we have problems in this country, assholes like you cant debate with the facts so you pretend you know something.

This isnt about how big your balls are fuckwit its about sound policy for our country.

Grow the fuck up or leave the real world to the adults .

Invective aside, you are wrong.

listen twinkletwat, Malnutrition and its effects on a society are reason enough to bare the costs of feeding the indigent.

You refuse to comment on those posts huh?

You dont want thoughtful solutions to our problems you just want partisan bullshit to sling.

 

[Jarhead]

Ummm Jarhead , did you not read all my posts on malnutrition and feeding our future workers for the bernifit of all Americans?

I read several paragraphgs and then I realized it was an opinion piece, so I stopped.
Have you ignored my posts about the facts of involuntary starvation and how it does not exist in the US?

Are you aware that obesity is the bigger issue and that is a result of poor eating habits and lack of exercise...and if anything, a direct conflict with involuntary starvation?

 

[Truthmatters]

Science is not an opinion piece.

Malnutrition is real and has real effects.

I'm so sick of the right denying science.

You redefine words for politcal purposes , rewrite history to fit your failed ideas, spew hate on higher education and refuse cold hard court documented facts.


Malnutrition is fucking real you fool.

 

[California Girl]

There are 4,000,000 people on welfare.

Most of them are children.

Do grow up.

People should not have children they cannot afford.

Are there no work houses?

I really don't care about work houses. I just care that I don't have to pay for other people's kids.

 

[Jarhead]

Why don't you understand that sometimes people NEED help that they can't get for themselves?

Not every problem or situation is one that someone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Not all help is evul. Learn that.

So people that need help, will be helped by destroying the rights of others.
Wow.........

Where the HELL did you get that idea? 1) I didnt say it 2) you didnt prove that applies to any part of the current government and 3) who the fuck would advocate that.

The idea that helping others via the government somehow inherently MUST hurt other people shows your ignorance. You need to define the word help...then you might get some actual traction with what you're saying.

I bet you're one of those people that misuses the word socialist and communist, aren't you?

Are you so sure that it doesnt hurt people when the government dsecides to help a certain income group?

Make some calls to NY medical coding schools.

If you were middle class last year, and unemployed this year...tough luck...you must pay full tiution and you must go on a waiting list that is a mile long if you want to learn the new trade.

If you are unemployed this year and poor last year, you get tuition for free (paid for by the government) and the government will ALSO pay the school a subsidy to overenroll for you....no one on the government tuition list is rejected.

And yes, that person goes ahead of the waiting list.

 

[Jarhead]

Science is not an opinion piece.

Malnutrition is real and has real effects.

I'm so sick of the right denying science.

You redefine words for politcal purposes , rewrite history to fit your failed ideas, spew hate on higher education and refuse cold hard court documented facts.


Malnutrition is fucking real you fool.

In the US we have people mal nourished due to being poor?

Please cite an example.

 

[California Girl]

Why don't you understand that sometimes people NEED help that they can't get for themselves?

Not every problem or situation is one that someone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Not all help is evul. Learn that.

I understand it. I help them. Not just by taxes - I do what you liberals should do. I get up off my conservative ass, and I volunteer. I teach them skills to help them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. See, that's what conservatives do.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Seems to me that a little anger towards the oppression of successful people is unsettling to your righteously tender sensibilities. Standing against those that would destroy a mans rights makes one a, "callous conservative". Hahahahaha........

Rabbi may rightfully express his anger in anyway he pleases, as I can express my disdain for avarice and the hate and fear perveyors of which he is a proud representative. A callous conservative defines a specific type of conservative.
Most understand who and what a social conservative supports (and that ain't freedom); and what a fiscal conservative supports (and that ain't someone who lets fixed assets rot); then their is the Conservative Chic, those who follow the latest fad, ever fearful of being different from the herd.
Finally, the callous conservative, s/he who lives by this motto: "I've got mine, fuck the rest of you". And, let us not forget the Neo- Conservative, the latest iteration who believe that might makes right and the ends are justified by the means crowd.
btw, thanks for sharing.

Makes me kind of happy that I'm a Jeffersonian Liberal.

Thanks for sharing. I'd never stand in the way of someone enjoying bliss.

 

[California Girl]

Science is not an opinion piece.

Malnutrition is real and has real effects.

I'm so sick of the right denying science.

You redefine words for politcal purposes , rewrite history to fit your failed ideas, spew hate on higher education and refuse cold hard court documented facts.


Malnutrition is fucking real you fool.

Let me 'splain it this way. Science is fact.... how you interpret the data, how you present it and how you spin it.... those are not facts.... and actually is opinion. That's not denying science - it's refusing to be fooled in the name of 'science'. You may be sick of the right denying science - which am sure you are convinced we do... even though that is bullshit.... but equally, I am probably not the only person on the right who is sick and tired of the left manipulating science for political outcomes.... and I'm kinda sick of you lying.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Why don't you understand that sometimes people NEED help that they can't get for themselves?

Not every problem or situation is one that someone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Not all help is evul. Learn that.

I understand it. I help them. Not just by taxes - I do what you liberals should do. I get up off my conservative ass, and I volunteer. I teach them skills to help them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. See, that's what conservatives do.

So, I should infer that from your post that no liberals help the needy, and all conservatives help the needy? That all needy people simply are an instruction away from becoming productive, debt free, healthy and happy.
I luv simple solutions.

 

[Jarhead]

Let me clarify TM

Fact: No one inviluntarily dies of starvation in AMerica. You are hungry and need food, there are many venues to get it.

Fact: If anything, Obesity is an issue amongst the poor as well as the US in general

Fact: No one ever died outside the hospital becuase the ER would not accept them due to lack of insurance

Fact: There has never been proof of an epidemic of pediatricians taking out tonsils to pad their pockets.

Fact: Before the governemnt intervened, Americans always helped Americans. It is the American way of life.