Democrats Hound Biden To Pack The Supreme Court, Establish Term Limits After More Decisions They Don’t Like

[Independent thinker]

Throughout the most of the 20th century the court system was used by the left to push through what were unpopular agendas at their time that they could never get done through Congress. Yet, at no point, when their agenda was being forced on the country via judicial fiat did they call the courts illegitimate, did they demand increasing the size and packing the Supreme Court with sympathetic judges, or adding term limits. In fact, they only time they did this was when they didn't get their way. FDR was famous for bullying the courts. He threatened the Court regularly, especially after striking down his New Deal package. He went so far as to advocate for a mandatory retirement age which would result in new court appointments he would be able to make, but even members of his own party were too skittish to move forward with that. His threats were enough, however, to get Justice Owen Roberts to flip his initial rulings and side with the leftists on the court to allow these new programs through.

Probably, the most egregious case of judicial activism was in 1973 when Roe v Wade was decided by the Berger Court, completely fabricated a right to privacy, that never existed in the 14th Amendment, so that they could push their own will on the American people. Many people, including abortion activists, were upset with how this decision was derived, but again, no demands for court packing by the Democratic Party. This has been followed by plenty of other poorly made decisions over the years, such as Kelo v New London and the upholding of ObamaCare, both of which greatly expanded the role of government. Yet again, no demands for changes to the court by the Democratic Party.

Fast forward to a point when a more conservative court is now shifting back towards originalism and the left is up to their old antics again, screeching about their legitimacy, warning us about how the Court is a "threat" to democracy. The Supreme Court only seems to be a threat to the American way of life when the left doesn't get their way. Congressman Ro Khanna seems to be taking a page from FDR in advising that Biden run for reelection by adding SCOTUS term limits to his platform.



The danger in this, of course, is that this will kick off a permanent politicization (moreso than it already is) of the Court for years, even decades, to come. We're already seeing this initial creep with the presidential impeachment process. There is another problem with Khanna's comments. It's not the job of SCOTUS to have "understanding of modern American life." Their job is to enforce the Constitution as written. We have an amendment process to keep up with the changing times, but it's rarely used. Instead, the courts have been hijacked over the years with activist jurists to fast track policy changes the public aren't necessarily ready for and we've seen the result of that. Every election year of my life and every federal high court appointment has been a bloody fight between pro-choice and pro-life advocates. This could have been avoided if the Berger court had simply done their job, ruled against Roe and said this was a job for Congress, not the courts, and let things play out over time. We shouldn't have a politicized court. If the justices on the Court are doing their jobs we should have more 9-0 decisions and less 5-4. Judges who can't understand their role, shouldn't be there.

It shows how they continue wanting to abuse their power in any way that they can and accomplish a political coup of the government.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Constitution is organic, created to be changed by Amendment and court decisions over the years.

That will continue to happen.

 

[MagicMike]

Throughout the most of the 20th century the court system was used by the left to push through what were unpopular agendas at their time that they could never get done through Congress. Yet, at no point, when their agenda was being forced on the country via judicial fiat did they call the courts illegitimate, did they demand increasing the size and packing the Supreme Court with sympathetic judges, or adding term limits. In fact, they only time they did this was when they didn't get their way. FDR was famous for bullying the courts. He threatened the Court regularly, especially after striking down his New Deal package. He went so far as to advocate for a mandatory retirement age which would result in new court appointments he would be able to make, but even members of his own party were too skittish to move forward with that. His threats were enough, however, to get Justice Owen Roberts to flip his initial rulings and side with the leftists on the court to allow these new programs through.

Probably, the most egregious case of judicial activism was in 1973 when Roe v Wade was decided by the Berger Court, completely fabricated a right to privacy, that never existed in the 14th Amendment, so that they could push their own will on the American people. Many people, including abortion activists, were upset with how this decision was derived, but again, no demands for court packing by the Democratic Party. This has been followed by plenty of other poorly made decisions over the years, such as Kelo v New London and the upholding of ObamaCare, both of which greatly expanded the role of government. Yet again, no demands for changes to the court by the Democratic Party.

Fast forward to a point when a more conservative court is now shifting back towards originalism and the left is up to their old antics again, screeching about their legitimacy, warning us about how the Court is a "threat" to democracy. The Supreme Court only seems to be a threat to the American way of life when the left doesn't get their way. Congressman Ro Khanna seems to be taking a page from FDR in advising that Biden run for reelection by adding SCOTUS term limits to his platform.



The danger in this, of course, is that this will kick off a permanent politicization (moreso than it already is) of the Court for years, even decades, to come. We're already seeing this initial creep with the presidential impeachment process. There is another problem with Khanna's comments. It's not the job of SCOTUS to have "understanding of modern American life." Their job is to enforce the Constitution as written. We have an amendment process to keep up with the changing times, but it's rarely used. Instead, the courts have been hijacked over the years with activist jurists to fast track policy changes the public aren't necessarily ready for and we've seen the result of that. Every election year of my life and every federal high court appointment has been a bloody fight between pro-choice and pro-life advocates. This could have been avoided if the Berger court had simply done their job, ruled against Roe and said this was a job for Congress, not the courts, and let things play out over time. We shouldn't have a politicized court. If the justices on the Court are doing their jobs we should have more 9-0 decisions and less 5-4. Judges who can't understand their role, shouldn't be there.

Mitch McConnel successfully "packed" the court when he refused to allow a vote on Merrick Garland, Obama's nominee to replace Scalia....citing "too close to the election." "This close to the General Election the voters should decide," McConnel said. That was in March 2016, eight months before the 2016 election. Of course McConnel then turned around in the fricking FALL of 2020, in October, ONE MONTH before The General Election, and not only allowed a vote but rushed through the confirmation of Amy
Coney Barrett, Trumps third judge.
Lying sack of shit!

So PULEEESE!
You Trumptard MAGAts need to get a new gig and stop pretending you actually give a shit about any "integrity" of The SCOTUS....or The U.S. Constitution for that matter.
If you really gave a shit about either you would have been up in arms demanding McConnel's impeachment back in 2016 for derilection of his constitutional duty when he refused to hold a vote on the current POTUS' SCOTUS nomination.
But where were you?
Crickets.

 

[MagicMike]

It shows how they continue wanting to abuse their power in any way that they can and accomplish a political coup of the government.

See post #43

 

[Toro]

Throughout the most of the 20th century the court system was used by the left to push through what were unpopular agendas at their time that they could never get done through Congress. Yet, at no point, when their agenda was being forced on the country via judicial fiat did they call the courts illegitimate, did they demand increasing the size and packing the Supreme Court with sympathetic judges, or adding term limits. In fact, they only time they did this was when they didn't get their way. FDR was famous for bullying the courts. He threatened the Court regularly, especially after striking down his New Deal package. He went so far as to advocate for a mandatory retirement age which would result in new court appointments he would be able to make, but even members of his own party were too skittish to move forward with that. His threats were enough, however, to get Justice Owen Roberts to flip his initial rulings and side with the leftists on the court to allow these new programs through.

Probably, the most egregious case of judicial activism was in 1973 when Roe v Wade was decided by the Berger Court, completely fabricated a right to privacy, that never existed in the 14th Amendment, so that they could push their own will on the American people. Many people, including abortion activists, were upset with how this decision was derived, but again, no demands for court packing by the Democratic Party. This has been followed by plenty of other poorly made decisions over the years, such as Kelo v New London and the upholding of ObamaCare, both of which greatly expanded the role of government. Yet again, no demands for changes to the court by the Democratic Party.

Fast forward to a point when a more conservative court is now shifting back towards originalism and the left is up to their old antics again, screeching about their legitimacy, warning us about how the Court is a "threat" to democracy. The Supreme Court only seems to be a threat to the American way of life when the left doesn't get their way. Congressman Ro Khanna seems to be taking a page from FDR in advising that Biden run for reelection by adding SCOTUS term limits to his platform.



The danger in this, of course, is that this will kick off a permanent politicization (moreso than it already is) of the Court for years, even decades, to come. We're already seeing this initial creep with the presidential impeachment process. There is another problem with Khanna's comments. It's not the job of SCOTUS to have "understanding of modern American life." Their job is to enforce the Constitution as written. We have an amendment process to keep up with the changing times, but it's rarely used. Instead, the courts have been hijacked over the years with activist jurists to fast track policy changes the public aren't necessarily ready for and we've seen the result of that. Every election year of my life and every federal high court appointment has been a bloody fight between pro-choice and pro-life advocates. This could have been avoided if the Berger court had simply done their job, ruled against Roe and said this was a job for Congress, not the courts, and let things play out over time. We shouldn't have a politicized court. If the justices on the Court are doing their jobs we should have more 9-0 decisions and less 5-4. Judges who can't understand their role, shouldn't be there.

I don't agree with this.

However, I do agree with term limiting SCOTUS Justices. I think this is the only nation in the Western world that allows its Justices to serve until death.

I think each Justice should be appointed to an 18 year-term, with all terms staggered two years apart so that a new Justice is picked every two years.

 

[Billiejeens]

Republicans used every means possible to build this activist right wing Court.

They have ruled against decades of progress...removed rights for the first time ever in the SC.

Yes...it's time to expand the Court

None of that is actually true.

 

[hadit]

Republicans used every means possible to build this activist right wing Court.

They have ruled against decades of progress...removed rights for the first time ever in the SC.

Yes...it's time to expand the Court

Where did you get your law degree?

 

[Billiejeens]

~~~~~~
I partially agree with you.
Before term limits for the Judiciary, Let's impose term limits on both Congress and the Senate.

No chance

 

[hadit]

Abortion was a RIGHT...until Dobbs

That's just the most obvious

You don't have the court create a brand new right with no grounding in the Constitution. That's why Roe was overturned, it was simply bad law.

 

[MagicMike]

None of that is actually true.

Actually all of it is true.
Unless of course you just like to re-write history.
Or if you happen to be one of those odd folks Mark Twain warned about who habitually mistake a short memory for a clean conscience.

 

[dblack]

They won elections.. like your big eared POTUS said.... elections have consequences

And that was one of the worst thing Obama said. Sad to see Republicans agreeing with him.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Mitch McConnel successfully "packed" the court when he refused to allow a vote on Merrick Garland, Obama's nominee to replace Scalia....citing "too close to the election." "This close to the General Election the voters should decide," McConnel said. That was in March 2016, eight months before the 2016 election. Of course McConnel then turned around in the fricking FALL of 2020, in October, ONE MONTH before The General Election, and not only allowed a vote but rushed through the confirmation of Amy
Coney Barrett, Trumps third judge.
Lying sack of shit!

So PULEEESE!
You Trumptard MAGAts need to get a new gig and stop pretending you actually give a shit about any "integrity" of The SCOTUS....or The U.S. Constitution for that matter.
If you really gave a shit about either you would have been up in arms demanding McConnel's impeachment back in 2016 for derilection of his constitutional duty when he refused to hold a vote on the current POTUS' SCOTUS nomination.
But where were you?
Crickets.

First off, Senators don’t get impeached, so stop using words you don’t understand.

Second, the job of the Senate is to advise and consent when a judge is nominated. They chose to advise and consent until after the election. There is no established timeframe that it has to be completed by and McConnell did absolutely nothing illegal by waiting. Was it unethical and a dirty trick? Yeah, maybe, but there was nothing illegal done, so you can stop hyperventilating like a hormonal 14 year old.

 

[MagicMike]

First off, Senators don’t get impeached, so stop using words you don’t understand.

Second, the job of the Senate is to advise and consent when a judge is nominated. They chose to advise and consent until after the election. There is no established timeframe that it has to be completed by and McConnell did absolutely nothing illegal by waiting. Was it unethical and a dirty trick? Yeah, maybe, but there was nothing illegal done, so you can stop hyperventilating like a hormonal 14 year old.

So you are saying you really don't give a shit about the integrity of the court....or upholding The U.S. Constitution....as long as "technically" no laws were broken in subverting it?

 

[blackhawk]

Sure what could go wrong with packing the court other than it becomes and endless ti for tat battle with each side packing it over and over until the court becomes irrelevant.

 

[CowboyTed]

Packing the court, no. We'll end up with 151 fucking justices.

Term limits? Sure. No one deserves a lifetime appointment.

The court was meant to reflect the number of Circuit courts... There are now 13...

Of course there should be term limits, I would suggest that ideally a justice should be appointed once every two years (odd Years) and thus your term is 26 years.. It means each election would be for two justices...

 

[Billiejeens]

Actually all of it is true.
Unless of course you just like to re-write history.
Or if you happen to be one of those odd folks Mark Twain warned about who habitually mistake a short memory for a clean conscience.

Still no.

 

[Billiejeens]

And that was one of the worst thing Obama said. Sad to see Republicans agreeing with him.

But, they do.

 

[Votto]

AOC Says Impeachment Must Be on the Table for Supreme Court Justices: Court ‘Has Not Been Receiving Adequate Oversight’ (Video)


The witch hunt we saw Donald Trump go through, and is going through, will now be used to go after SCOTUS.


Now that Roe vs. Wade has been overturned, along with other pet court cases like Affirmative Action being overturned, the Left is bound and determined to destroy them at any cost.


First, we saw Chuck Schumer threaten the lives of SCOTUS if they dared mess with Roe vs. Wade


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...ments-n1150036


Then we saw them try to destroy the nomination of one of the justices, but claiming he raped a woman 30 years ago in one of the ugliest proceedings in US history. Even before the allegations, a Leftist protester smeared herself with blood from her own menses, thinking that the police would hesitate physically removing her because they would not want to touch or smell her.


I tried finding articles on this, but the Left has taken them all down. All that remains is conversations about the links that no longer exist.


Protester Smears Menstrual Bloody Mess in Kavanaugh Hearing - 24hourcampfire


Then the Left gives out the addresses of only conservatives on SCOTUS, as well as addresses of the schools their children attend so that lunatics might attack and murder them.


Activists Post SCOTUS Justices' Addresses After Roe v. Wade Overturned


Sure enough, one showed up to assassinate justice Kavanaugh.


FBI says man accused of attempting to kill Brett Kavanaugh said he was 'shooting for 3' justices | CNN Politics


Inexplicably, however, not one prominent member of the Democratic party denounced the attempted assassination of a Supreme Court justice.


Biden remains silent on attempted Kavanaugh assassination | Fox News


This was the first time I can remember that one party did not denounce the attempted assassination of high ranking government officials. I cannot think of a time when the GOP did not denounce such an attack, even on member of the opposing party. It is as if their silence was their support for such behavior. This was a new low for politics and for the country.


However, the Left was not done, because they are never done. When protestors showed up to protest outside the homes of SCOTUS, which is illegal to do, Merick Garland refused to stop it.


https://nypost.com/2022/07/11/ag-gar...tors-ted-cruz/


For you see, Merick Garland wanted them murdered along with every Leftist in the United States, because that is how they roll. Not doing his job was enough to impeach him, but I digress.


But none of the other high ranking democrats wanted to protect SCOTUS and their families either, as they opposed legislation to help protect members of SCOTUS who had almost been assassinated.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...ourt-families/


All the Democrats in Congress wanted them murdered along with Merick Garland, and no, not one word of condemnation for the crazy cult members of the DNC, like the one who tried to assassinate Kavanaugh.


And now this, AOC said she will investigate the members of SCOTUS she does not like, the ones she wants murdered as well, till they find something to impeach them for.


I've FUCKING had it!! The Democrat party is a murderous, hateful, terrorist organization that must be destroyed, or they will destroy the country

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Insurrectionists!!!!!

-

 

[dblack]

But, they do.

Partisans, in general, do. It's the fundamental flaw of plurality voting, of the two-party system. Neither side seeks consensus. They just want to "own" the other side.