Democrats Attempt to Destroy America

[PoliticalChic]

11. "Vice President Joe Biden on Tuesday called the bombshell report on CIA interrogation tactics a “badge of honor” and said its public release would strengthen the United States.

“No, I think it’s a badge of honor,” Biden said when asked at POLITICO’s Women Rule Summit whether the sharply critical report by the Senate [Democrat] Intelligence Committee is a “black stain.”
Biden Release of torture report is badge of honor - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO




Recognize the name 'Biden'?
This Joe Biden:

12. "[C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators who voted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.

The sad reality is that a CIA operative with any hope of infiltrating a terrorist cell would need to demonstrate his bona fides in any number of reprehensible ways. These are unpleasant thoughts to contemplate, and they certainly do not fit our conception of the way the world ought to work. But America cannot have it both ways -- it cannot expect to deter an Osama bin Laden and keep its hands clean at the same time. Presidents need options short of war to handle this type of threat.

[Liberal Democrat] Congressional meddling is primarily responsible for this new CIA ethos, transforming it from an agency willing to take risks, and act at times in a Machiavellian manner, into just another sclerotic Washington bureaucracy. This cautious, legalistic attitude has crippled the agency’s effectiveness and will not change unless the oversight committees of Congress acknowledge the uniquely executive character of intelligence and covert operations, and start to dismantle the cumbersome oversight apparatus erected during the last twenty five years."
History News Network Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

A major reason why we were unable to detect the 9/11 attack!




a. "Here at home, the [Democrat] Obama administration has gravely impaired our capability to gather human intelligence by declassifying hundreds of pages of documents that explain our interrogation techniques—information that is now probably in al-Qaeda training manuals."
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=10



The anti-American axis: Feinstein-Biden-Obama

Just one small part of the Liberal/Progressive Democrat anti-America cabal.

 

[hipeter924]

The timing of this is obvious. they are trying to take the spotlight off of their massive congressional losses, Gruber, Obama's illegal amnesty EO, the failed obama economy, the IRS, VA, Benghazi, Ferguson,, and all the other democrat failures.

But its not working, Americans are not as dumb as the dems think they are.

The upcoming House and Senate will find its way to get dumped too, if the latest spending bill is any indication. Republicans will dislike the bill as it does nothing about immigration, and Democratic politicians who voted for will find themselves voted out too. What an interesting sideshow politics has come to be.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The timing of this is obvious. they are trying to take the spotlight off of their massive congressional losses, Gruber, Obama's illegal amnesty EO, the failed obama economy, the IRS, VA, Benghazi, Ferguson,, and all the other democrat failures.

But its not working, Americans are not as dumb as the dems think they are.

The upcoming House and Senate will find its way to get dumped too, if the latest spending bill is any indication. Republicans will dislike the bill as it does nothing about immigration, and Democratic politicians who voted for will find themselves voted out too. What an interesting sideshow politics has come to be.

Many of us on the Right feel like political orphans.
Boehner's recent actions have proven disheartening.

And this:
"GOP Rep: House Leaders Made False Promise to Get My Crucial Vote"
GOP Rep House Leaders Made False Promise to Get My Crucial Vote National Review Online

I foresee only the abyss.

 

[Flash]

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

You have to be careful pointig out the facts to the Libtards. They like to be in mode of blaming everything on Bush and actually get upset when you challenge them on it.

You are absolutely correct. The Democrat sponsored CRA caused the housing meltdown. When the Democrats took over Congress in 2006 their oversight (led by Barney Queerboy) did nothing to correct the avalanche of problems.

 

[BULLDOG]

You're absolutely right. I should have noted the Tokyo War Crimes Trials (1946-1948) instead of Nuremburg. Thanks for the correction. Were the Tokyo War Crimes Trials a liberal conspiracy?

Only a Liberal would pretend that the Japanese and the Americans used the same methods.




" When they waterboarded, they would cane the prisoner's belly while he was being waterboarded. This apparently increased the level of pain and panic exponentially. These are not--in kind or in degree--the same offenses that the Americans are charged with....agree. To be clear to everybody, what the Japanese were doing was like the Americans only in the sense that:
- folks were tied on a board
- there was water.

The basic Japanese approach was to force ingestion of large amounts of water, then beat your distended stomach, causing pain and rupture of organs.

It was not the mental panic approach that we call waterboarding today.




We waterboard those attending SERE training, using the exact same techniques used against KSM, and its not torture when we do it in SERE training. Now to all those saying that the waterboarding is identical to that done by the Japanese, do you think we would ever submit our troops to Japanese style waterboarding? ie filling their bellies with water and then jumping on them and rupturing their organs? Doens't the fact that that would NEVER happen distinguish the two procedures based on that fact alone?


"I was waterboarded at SERE, bamboo caged in stress positions, and slapped around.

Survivors of Swamp Phase of Ranger school note that the hard part is 9 days of sleep deprivation therapy


Above comments found here:
Althouse Americans think the Bush adminstration used torture.

That comment was made by some anonymous poster at another discussion board. Hardly a credible source, but in the same vain, Jessie Ventura, a person documented to have gone through SERE, said it is definitely torture. McCain also says it's torture. Your claims of those techniques not being torture are as believable as a 4 year old saying he didn't get any cake when he has chocolate on his face.

Democrats attempt to destroy America


The Democrats and other liberal fanatics aren't trying to destroy America.
They're trying to transform it into something they think is better.

They are unaware (or they refuse to believe) that the transformation they intend, will result in its deterioration, increasing poverty, less freedom, and its eventual destruction. Even though that has been the result when their "new ideas" have been tried on other large countries, nearly every time.

They believe that if they INTEND to transform it into something better, that's the only thing we need to consider when evaluating their schemes. Good intentions make for good programs, every time.

No proof is needed. Fortunately for them.

And unfortunately for the rest of the country.

"They're trying to transform it into something they think is better."

And it will be a worker's paradise!

And, a new anthem to go along with it:

Even you have to know that is just stupid.

Your ignorance of reality is not my responsibility.

Ok...I'll play along for a while longer. How exactly are you trying to link liberals to a Russian song? Has it been performed by any liberal group or referenced in any way? Which liberal, or which liberal group adopted that song? If you think just picking outa video and assigning it to an opponent is valid, then check out this republican classic

 

[PoliticalChic]

Only a Liberal would pretend that the Japanese and the Americans used the same methods.




" When they waterboarded, they would cane the prisoner's belly while he was being waterboarded. This apparently increased the level of pain and panic exponentially. These are not--in kind or in degree--the same offenses that the Americans are charged with....agree. To be clear to everybody, what the Japanese were doing was like the Americans only in the sense that:
- folks were tied on a board
- there was water.

The basic Japanese approach was to force ingestion of large amounts of water, then beat your distended stomach, causing pain and rupture of organs.

It was not the mental panic approach that we call waterboarding today.




We waterboard those attending SERE training, using the exact same techniques used against KSM, and its not torture when we do it in SERE training. Now to all those saying that the waterboarding is identical to that done by the Japanese, do you think we would ever submit our troops to Japanese style waterboarding? ie filling their bellies with water and then jumping on them and rupturing their organs? Doens't the fact that that would NEVER happen distinguish the two procedures based on that fact alone?


"I was waterboarded at SERE, bamboo caged in stress positions, and slapped around.

Survivors of Swamp Phase of Ranger school note that the hard part is 9 days of sleep deprivation therapy


Above comments found here:
Althouse Americans think the Bush adminstration used torture.

That comment was made by some anonymous poster at another discussion board. Hardly a credible source, but in the same vain, Jessie Ventura, a person documented to have gone through SERE, said it is definitely torture. McCain also says it's torture. Your claims of those techniques not being torture are as believable as a 4 year old saying he didn't get any cake when he has chocolate on his face.

Democrats attempt to destroy America


The Democrats and other liberal fanatics aren't trying to destroy America.
They're trying to transform it into something they think is better.

They are unaware (or they refuse to believe) that the transformation they intend, will result in its deterioration, increasing poverty, less freedom, and its eventual destruction. Even though that has been the result when their "new ideas" have been tried on other large countries, nearly every time.

They believe that if they INTEND to transform it into something better, that's the only thing we need to consider when evaluating their schemes. Good intentions make for good programs, every time.

No proof is needed. Fortunately for them.

And unfortunately for the rest of the country.

"They're trying to transform it into something they think is better."

And it will be a worker's paradise!

And, a new anthem to go along with it:

Even you have to know that is just stupid.

Your ignorance of reality is not my responsibility.

Ok...I'll play along for a while longer. How exactly are you trying to link liberals to a Russian song? Has it been performed by any liberal group or referenced in any way? Which liberal, or which liberal group adopted that song? If you think just picking outa video and assigning it to an opponent is valid, then check out this republican classic

These were the aims of the Communist Party of the United States as reported in Congress, 1963:

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."


9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


All are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

 

[hipeter924]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA)

 

[Flash]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

This was the platform of the American Communist Party.

 

[BULLDOG]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA)

Wow...If you actually believe all the shit you post, you must be the most scared person I have ever heard of. Do you sleep under your bed and keep the lights on in case the terrible liberals come to get you? Paranoia can be helped, but you need to seek help before anything good can happen.

 

[Plasmaball]

There are distinct groups one finds in the Nazi wannabes who are excusing the torture of prisoners by the United States. These traits have been seen in psychological studies of torture in the past.

In the first group are the deniers. Those who deny torture even took place.

In the second group are the ones who raise the standards for what constitutes torture. To these people, what used to be considered torture when done by those not of their kind is not considered torture when it is done by those of their kind. Thus waterboarding, slapping, and beating were torture when foreigners did it, and was prosecuted as torture, but is not torture when our guys do it.

In the third group are those who attempt to downplay or minimize the harm done by torture when it is done by our guys. If the same torture was done to an American, their outrage would be through the roof. But when the torture is done to a vilified enemy, then no harm no foul.


As you read the umpteen topics about the torture report, you will see these three types of apologists leaping out at you quite starkly.


People wonder how the German people were able to slide into madness so easily. Well, just take a look at the torture apologists you are seeing today and you will no longer wonder. The exact same phenomenon has been occurring in the United States since 9/11. Thus the Charles Mackay quote in my sig.

its funny how we tried Germans for the exact samething we are doing because we considered it torture.

 

[hipeter924]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA)

Ah. In which case that link was incorrect. In the real text, it is number 26. Number 8 pertains to keeping East and West Germany as separate states.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA)

Wow...If you actually believe all the shit you post, you must be the most scared person I have ever heard of. Do you sleep under your bed and keep the lights on in case the terrible liberals come to get you? Paranoia can be helped, but you need to seek help before anything good can happen.

You've never been exposed to actual facts, huh?
I notice that you haven't been able to deny anything I've posted....that should give you a hint about the sort of education you've accepted.


Waiting for a think tank to begin forming around you would be like waiting for a string of Jenny Craig's to open in Ethiopia.

 

[BULLDOG]

8 is wrong. The Soviet Union and Maoist China considered homosexuality illegal and punished people who committed homosexual acts. In fact the most vocal homophobes in Russia are communists.

Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA)

Wow...If you actually believe all the shit you post, you must be the most scared person I have ever heard of. Do you sleep under your bed and keep the lights on in case the terrible liberals come to get you? Paranoia can be helped, but you need to seek help before anything good can happen.

You've never been exposed to actual facts, huh?
I notice that you haven't been able to deny anything I've posted....that should give you a hint about the sort of education you've accepted.


Waiting for a think tank to begin forming around you would be like waiting for a string of Jenny Craig's to open in Ethiopia.

I've denied and disproven lots of shit you claim to be true. Just because you are crazy enough to believe all the really ridiculous things rush an Hannity tell you about liberals doesn't mean any of it is true. Keep your tinfoil hat close, and you should be all right, but don't expect any sane person to take you seriously.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. If one loves America, one must hate Liberalism/Progressivism, the Democrat Party.

No two ways about it.

Every day, in every way, they strike a blow against this great nation.




Make no mistake, this is not merely the unrealistic desires that they turn into laws and regulations, it is the outright attempts to weaken America!

In this thread, I will document the Democrat Party's associations with communism, and the efforts of the Democrat Party to emasculate the intelligence community that protects all of us.





2. What brought this into focus most recently is Democrat Frankenfeinstein's odious "CIA" report.
Yesterday (12/9), the Liberal/Progressive Democrat Party aimed their slash and burn tactics at the agency which is designed to anticipate and blunt future attacks on the nation.

"CIA Director John Brennan said on Thursday some agency officers used "abhorrent" methods on detainees captured following the Sept. 11 attacks and said it was "unknowable" whether harsh interrogation techniques yielded useful intelligence."

"Some captives were deprived of sleep for up to 180 hours, at times with their hands shackled above their heads, and the report recorded cases of simulated drowning, or "waterboarding," and sexual abuse, including "rectal feeding" or "rectal hydration" without any documented medical need.

"In a limited number of cases, agency officers used interrogation techniques that had not been authorized, were abhorrent and rightly should be repudiated by all. And we fell short when it came to holding some officers accountable for their mistakes," Brennan said."


CIA chief admits agency used abhorrent methods on detainees Reuters

 

[Plasmaball]

It should be obvious. They are attempting to be transparent as long as they are shining the light on something that happened during the Bush Administration. Is it any wonder that they were kicked to the curb last month?

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

well then, when do we get to strip you,toss cold water on you and leave you over night on a cold floor where you will most likely die?
OR grab you even though you are innocent and waterboard you..

because you know, fuck your rights.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

It should be obvious. They are attempting to be transparent as long as they are shining the light on something that happened during the Bush Administration. Is it any wonder that they were kicked to the curb last month?

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

well then, when do we get to strip you,toss cold water on you and leave you over night on a cold floor where you will most likely die?
OR grab you even though you are innocent and waterboard you..

because you know, fuck your rights.....

"well then, when do we get to blah, blah, blah..."

I'd beat you like a rented mule.

 

[Plasmaball]

It should be obvious. They are attempting to be transparent as long as they are shining the light on something that happened during the Bush Administration. Is it any wonder that they were kicked to the curb last month?

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

well then, when do we get to strip you,toss cold water on you and leave you over night on a cold floor where you will most likely die?
OR grab you even though you are innocent and waterboard you..

because you know, fuck your rights.....

"well then, when do we get to blah, blah, blah..."

I'd beat you like a rented mule.

i figured you wouldnt answer a direct question....i accept your surrender again...
now you are free to troll your own thread.

 

[PoliticalChic]

13. Another journey down the main corridor of the Liberal/Progressive Democrat Hall of Shame.


One more example of how low the Liberal/Progressive Democrats will sink in order to damage this nation: they reach out to, and work, with our enemies.

The famed "Liberal Lion of the Senate," murderer Ted Kennedy offered to work with the KGB against the President of the United States.


"In 1983, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy offered to help the Soviets mount a public-relations offensive in the United States. This propaganda attack would target President Reagan and his policies. These are the same policies that eventually ended the Cold War and reduced the possibility of nuclear annihilation. This charge was made by Paul Kengor in his book "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism."


This new book adds to research done by Herb Romerstein, Yevgenia Albats, Vladimir Bukovsky, Pavel Stroilov and others. They all indicate that Mr. Kennedy felt that any bad relations between the United States and the Soviet Union were the sole fault of Mr. Reagan and that talk of a Soviet military threat was nonsense. These articles seem to validate reports that were first published by Vasili Mitrokhin — the former KGB historian who secretly copied sensitive KGB files and released them after the fall of the Soviet Union.


.... Kennedy and the Democrats could get the ear of the general-secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.


Numerous articles also said that this anti-Reagan/anti-U.S. conspiracy was not a one-man operation by Mr. Kennedy. They indicate that former Sen. John V. Tunney, a California Democrat, went to Moscow and met with officials of the KGB on Mr. Kennedy's behalf. Additionally, in their book "The Sword And The Shield," Christopher Andrew and Vasili Metrokhin said that as early as 1975 the KGB began operations to penetrate the inner circles of a number of leading Democrats, including the likes of Mr. Kennedy and Ramsey Clark.


They also mentioned that a Democratic Party activist had been recruited by the KGB and had supplied the Soviets with information from a variety of Democratic leaders, including President Carter.


....Kennedy also worked against Mr. Carter in 1979. Mr. Burtis reported that Mr. Kennedy offered to help Moscow when Mr. Carter harshly criticized the Soviets for their invasion of Afghanistan. According to Charles Dunn, the dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University, these types of subversive activities were in "clear violation of the U.S. Constitution and at the expense of presidential authority."

.... Tunney said that he had indeed contacted the Soviets on behalf of several U.S. senators — not just Mr. Kennedy. So, the question is, did some of the Democratic Party leadership offer to work with the Soviet KGB against Mr. Reagan? If so, were they later blackmailed into working for the KGB and against the United States on other fronts? How many Democratic politicians were compromised and later blackmailed? Lastly, if they were controlled by the Soviets, are they now "influenced" by the Russians? Inquiring minds want to know.
John Smith is the pseudonym for a retired CIA analyst."
Ted Kennedy sides with Soviets. Traitor Archive - Georgia Outdoor News Forum

 

[PoliticalChic]

It should be obvious. They are attempting to be transparent as long as they are shining the light on something that happened during the Bush Administration. Is it any wonder that they were kicked to the curb last month?

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

well then, when do we get to strip you,toss cold water on you and leave you over night on a cold floor where you will most likely die?
OR grab you even though you are innocent and waterboard you..

because you know, fuck your rights.....

"well then, when do we get to blah, blah, blah..."

I'd beat you like a rented mule.

i figured you wouldnt answer a direct question....i accept your surrender again...
now you are free to troll your own thread.

You like answering questions?

Here's one: if you could have prevented 9/11 using the methods in question.....would you have done so?