Democrats are not very civil

[Truthmatters]

You are very confused

 

[daveman]

You are very confused

Not at all. I deal in reality. You deal in ideology.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You are very confused

If you were only "very confused".

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You are very confused

I'm still waiting on your proof that I am wrong. Not your opion but something he founders would have said.

 

[Truthmatters]

It's not the people's work that was getting obstructed -- it was Democrats'.

Oh I see , its only the peoples work when the Republicans are voted into office by the American people BUT When the American people vote in a democratic majority that is not the peoples work.


Do you even understand how partisan you are?

I suggest you look in a mirror.

What I say is true, and is backed up by poll after poll, as well as last November's elections. The people do not want what the Democrats have been forcing on them.

the democrats you are complaining about were elected too.


They had the country pissed at them because with a majority they could not seem to get anything done.

Guess who tried to keep them from gettting anything done?


The world is not as you see it.

Go look at the recent polls

 

[Truthmatters]

Poll: Most Back Public Health Care Option - CBS News

72 % backed the public option.

Your party forced it off the table.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Oh I see , its only the peoples work when the Republicans are voted into office by the American people BUT When the American people vote in a democratic majority that is not the peoples work.


Do you even understand how partisan you are?

I suggest you look in a mirror.

What I say is true, and is backed up by poll after poll, as well as last November's elections. The people do not want what the Democrats have been forcing on them.

the democrats you are complaining about were elected too.


They had the country pissed at them because with a majority they could not seem to get anything done.

Guess who tried to keep them from gettting anything done?


The world is not as you see it.

Go look at the recent polls

Just exactly how did the minority stop the majority? Oh and the majority in the house in 2011 got something done where is the out cry from the people for voting to repeal obamacare?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Poll: Most Back Public Health Care Option - CBS News

72 % backed the public option.

Your party forced it off the table.

If your poll was true then the majority should not have had a problem passing it. Now where is the outcry about the Republican controlled house because they voted to repeal obamacare?

 

[Truthmatters]

AP-GfK Poll: Opposition to health care law eases - Yahoo! News


it is NOT what the people want.

Stop pretending it is




The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

As for repeal, only about one in four say they want to do away with the law completely. Among Republicans support for repeal has dropped sharply, from 61 percent after the elections to 49 percent now.

Also, 43 percent say they want the law changed so it does more to re-engineer the health care system. Fewer than one in five say it should be left as it is.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Excuse me but this entire "civility" bullshit is enough to make one throw up violently.

Fuck made-up "civility", this is politics not checkers.

Civility only comes to play when the other guy is now in power .. who cries out for a civility they never showed when they weren't in power.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AP-GfK Poll: Opposition to health care law eases - Yahoo! News


it is NOT what the people want.

Stop pretending it is




The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

As for repeal, only about one in four say they want to do away with the law completely. Among Republicans support for repeal has dropped sharply, from 61 percent after the elections to 49 percent now.

Also, 43 percent say they want the law changed so it does more to re-engineer the health care system. Fewer than one in five say it should be left as it is.

Again if the majority of the people want government healthcare then the super majority democrat held government should not have had a problem for getting passed what they did. You poll does not hold water to the truth. Now what about that repeal of obamacare? WHERE IS THE OUTCRY FOM THE PEOPLE?

 

[Sallow]

To understand Conservatives, you must understand the nature of the Right wing. They believe in a Nexus of a powerful one party government coupled with corporations and religion to force the people into the mold of society they feel is best. Take some examples of when right wing ideology blossoms into a far right ideology:

The many monarchies in Europe, Fascist Italy, Saudi Arabia, and of course, the NAZI Party of Germany. Hitler being one of the most religious conservative corporatists of all.

To their extreme, the right is extremely militant, brutal, controlling. They must be, as that is the only way to bring about total power to elites they believe get their power from a supreme being, which is the goal of modern Conservatism. Total supremacy of those they deem superior can't be achieved without overwhelming force or threat of. It's why drill instructors yell so much.

Hitler believed in and experimented with the occult and satanism.

You lefties fail so badly. You can't even rip conservatism well.

Ok. I'll do it for you. Conservatism, in full far right bloom, would lead to the complete absense or powerless government, right?

What places on Earth is the government totally powerless, or just pure absent? Where the most powerful private citizens rule? Lets see....Mexico, Yemen, Afghanistan, parts of Compton and Detroit? If you libs had any skill in debate at all, you'd see that the far right of smaller government results in lawlessness and chaos.

Damn. Come on guy, at least put up a fight.

The wonderful thing about Hitler..is he spoke in public and wrote a book. As they use to say "Let's go to the Video Tape!":

"We demand freedom for all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or conflict with the customs and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession...."


- Article 20 of the program of the German Workers' Party (later named the National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP)

I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 1

As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 3

And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

Hitler, like Conservatives, demonized people for their faith, political beliefs, race and ethnicity. He hated Liberals, Socialists, Gays, Jews and anything not German.

One country, one party, one god and one people.

The mantra of Conservatives.

 

[Truthmatters]

You know why and its the subject of this thread.

The republicans obstructed the work of the people getting done for years.

They voted against their own bills and had people screaming at town halls so the people could not hear what their elected officails had to say.

The republicans did everything they could to throw lies into the debate and even voted against their own bills to stop the process.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

To understand Conservatives, you must understand the nature of the Right wing. They believe in a Nexus of a powerful one party government coupled with corporations and religion to force the people into the mold of society they feel is best. Take some examples of when right wing ideology blossoms into a far right ideology:

The many monarchies in Europe, Fascist Italy, Saudi Arabia, and of course, the NAZI Party of Germany. Hitler being one of the most religious conservative corporatists of all.

To their extreme, the right is extremely militant, brutal, controlling. They must be, as that is the only way to bring about total power to elites they believe get their power from a supreme being, which is the goal of modern Conservatism. Total supremacy of those they deem superior can't be achieved without overwhelming force or threat of. It's why drill instructors yell so much.

Hitler believed in and experimented with the occult and satanism.

You lefties fail so badly. You can't even rip conservatism well.

Ok. I'll do it for you. Conservatism, in full far right bloom, would lead to the complete absense or powerless government, right?

What places on Earth is the government totally powerless, or just pure absent? Where the most powerful private citizens rule? Lets see....Mexico, Yemen, Afghanistan, parts of Compton and Detroit? If you libs had any skill in debate at all, you'd see that the far right of smaller government results in lawlessness and chaos.

Damn. Come on guy, at least put up a fight.

The wonderful thing about Hitler..is he spoke in public and wrote a book. As they use to say "Let's go to the Video Tape!":

As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 3

And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

Hitler, like Conservatives, demonized people for their faith.

He used Jews.

Your feelings about Muslims are??

Hitler, like Conservatives, demonized people for their faith.

He used Jews.

Your feelings about Muslims are??:

Do you really want to go there? Do you have a problem with short term memory lose?
Obama hold to their bible and guns

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You know why and its the subject of this thread.

The republicans obstructed the work of the people getting done for years.

They voted against their own bills and had people screaming at town halls so the people could not hear what their elected officails had to say.

The republicans did everything they could to throw lies into the debate and even voted against their own bills to stop the process.

How did the minority obstructed the majority? Do you have a video showing this?

 

[Bfgrn]

You know why and its the subject of this thread.

The republicans obstructed the work of the people getting done for years.

They voted against their own bills and had people screaming at town halls so the people could not hear what their elected officails had to say.

The republicans did everything they could to throw lies into the debate and even voted against their own bills to stop the process.

They won't even believe a former Bush II speechwriter who was fired by the American Enterprise Institute for this op-ed.

Waterloo | FrumForum

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."

 

[Truthmatters]

How is it someone like BR doesnt even know what his own party did just a few months ago?

 

[daveman]

Oh I see , its only the peoples work when the Republicans are voted into office by the American people BUT When the American people vote in a democratic majority that is not the peoples work.


Do you even understand how partisan you are?

I suggest you look in a mirror.

What I say is true, and is backed up by poll after poll, as well as last November's elections. The people do not want what the Democrats have been forcing on them.

the democrats you are complaining about were elected too.


They had the country pissed at them because with a majority they could not seem to get anything done.

Guess who tried to keep them from gettting anything done?


The world is not as you see it.

Go look at the recent polls

Yes, the people elected Democrats. The Democrats thus elected saw it as a blank check to ramrod through whatever they wanted. November showed them the error of their ways.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Just as did the Bushies from 2001 to 2006. Get over yourself, reactionary.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How is it someone like BR doesnt even know what his own party did just a few months ago?

if your poll was correct then it would suggest that the people would be out raged at the republicans for voting to repeal obamacare? Where is the voice of the people now? Why aren't there any protest against what the republicans are doing?