Dem Congressman takes apart tea party whiner

[SFC Ollie]

the GOP cherry-picked witness, unsurprisingly had Jay Seculow as council lol. Could they be any more transparent?

4 min clip:

C-SPAN | Democrat owns TeaParty vote suppressor (sp.)

Sorry, have to wait till I get on a Windows box. C-SPAN messed up their site sooo bad. Why can't they just run their videos through YouTube or something. Geez. How did they manage to program a Flash video so badly?

I noticed they just changed their site because I haven't been there in months. Yeah, the vids are bigger. Anyway, heres the ranking memeber Elijah Cummings (D-MD) chiding rw groups for disenfranchising voters

C-SPAN | Ranking member on voting rights

How very strange, Most people i know would agree with Mr Cummings that everyone should have one vote.

 

[Dot Com]

well that was a GOP, dog & pony show if there ever was one. GOP doing what they do best- trying to score cheap political points w/ cherry-picked witnesses in their witch hunt hearings :zzz:

 

[Stephanie]

The reason the NSA is spying on everyone is for this purpose. Anyone who protests government abuse becomes a target of the FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF, the list goes on. Brownshirters with badges.

YEP, and when you have sheep like the op and others who cheers this type of behavior from the government, they will just roll over us..just makes me sick

I was just reading this:
SNIP:



Ben Carson: Obama officials 'acting like Gestapo'

'We're dealing with an extremely corrupt administration'





WASHINGTON – Dr. Ben Carson, the brain surgeon turned popular political analyst, told WND Obama administration officials are “acting like the Gestapo” with the Justice Department indictment of Dinesh D’Souza coupled with the Internal Revenue Service’s political targeting of the administration’s critics.


“I believe we are dealing with an extremely corrupt administration,” he said.

Dr. Carson himself became the subject of an IRS audit after criticizing Barack Obama’s policies at the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington last year.

ALL of it here
Read more at Ben Carson: Obama officials ?acting like Gestapo?

 

[Wry Catcher]

I don't even have to watch it to know its bull shit. Just the fact that two if the biggest left wing hacks agree on it, tells me it didn't happen that way.

Not even a nice try morons.

IMO this ^^^ post goes far beyond an example of willful ignorance, it is just plain stupid.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Love it! Dumbass teabagger probably didn't know what hit him.

He was a she, and she said that OSHA showed up without warning and started interviewing employees without management's knowledge, looking for dirt on a woman who applied for a tax-free status in another organization. One government agency after another showing up to look for violations just because she was a conservative. She never had this problem before over her 20 plus years in operation up until the last 3 years. Looks like a clear case of political harassment to me.

The dickwad (Democrat) asking the questions wouldn't allow her to answer the questions. It was total Bullshit. Every one of the issues the representative mentioned could all be corrected by PPE, Personal Protective Equipment. This is the most common form of safety involved in a work environment.

Of course it would look like harassment to you and others ruled by emotion and biases. However, others (Reasonable people) know that cause-and-effect reasoning is a valid form of rational logic, but only if the causal relationship is established.

It is very easy to find that two things vary together and assume cause-and-effect, but this only proves correlation. It may be, for example, that both are effects of a prior common cause. For example, that the Bush Administration failed in their duty to regulate and the Obama Administration follows the law.

 

[eagle1462010]

Love it! Dumbass teabagger probably didn't know what hit him.

He was a she, and she said that OSHA showed up without warning and started interviewing employees without management's knowledge, looking for dirt on a woman who applied for a tax-free status in another organization. One government agency after another showing up to look for violations just because she was a conservative. She never had this problem before over her 20 plus years in operation up until the last 3 years. Looks like a clear case of political harassment to me.

The dickwad (Democrat) asking the questions wouldn't allow her to answer the questions. It was total Bullshit. Every one of the issues the representative mentioned could all be corrected by PPE, Personal Protective Equipment. This is the most common form of safety involved in a work environment.

Of course it would look like harassment to you and others ruled by emotion and biases. However, others (Reasonable people) know that cause-and-effect reasoning is a valid form of rational logic, but only if the causal relationship is established.

It is very easy to find that two things vary together and assume cause-and-effect, but this only proves correlation. It may be, for example, that both are effects of a prior common cause. For example, that the Bush Administration failed in their duty to regulate and the Obama Administration follows the law.

How quaint..................

The IRS openly attacks conservative groups under 501 status and then gets inspections and audits after 20 years without having any audits or inspections and SUDDENLY it's because the Obama Administration follows the law...............

Were you dropped on your head at birth or something.

 

[RandomVariable]

The reason the NSA is spying on everyone is for this purpose. Anyone who protests government abuse becomes a target of the FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF, the list goes on. Brownshirters with badges.

Let's see, you don't like the NSA, FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF. You left off someone in particular. I wonder why.

 

[eagle1462010]

This isn't done yet people............

Those organizations are now suing the IRS, and congressional ethics committees as a result of this ongoing investigation...............

They have proof they were targeted.

We have apologies from the IRS and investigations that have shown they abused their power.

And we have the Dems in full damage control over it.

 

[eagle1462010]

The reason the NSA is spying on everyone is for this purpose. Anyone who protests government abuse becomes a target of the FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF, the list goes on. Brownshirters with badges.

Let's see, you don't like the NSA, FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF. You left off someone in particular. I wonder why.

LOL

How would you like them crawling up your butt for just trying to start a TEA PARTY GROUP ..............................

They have functions that are needed...........Not the targeting of political group...........They believe they are the law and above it.................Not all of them, but those who participated on direct targeting of groups who don't agree with the current administration.

 

[Dot Com]

This isn't done yet people............

Those organizations are now suing the IRS, and congressional ethics committees as a result of this ongoing investigation...............

They have proof they were targeted.

We have apologies from the IRS and investigations that have shown they abused their power.

And we have the Dems in full damage control over it.

that would explain your link in the above post. Oops!!! My bad. you didn't supply any

 

[eagle1462010]

This isn't done yet people............

Those organizations are now suing the IRS, and congressional ethics committees as a result of this ongoing investigation...............

They have proof they were targeted.

We have apologies from the IRS and investigations that have shown they abused their power.

And we have the Dems in full damage control over it.

that would explain your link in the above post. Oops!!! My bad. you didn't supply any

LOL

Take a look at the evidence from the hearings of those targeted...........

Oops,,,,,,,,,,,,,it doesn't support your Cherry Picked talking points.

 

[paperview]

How would you like them crawling up your butt for just trying to start a TEA PARTY GROUP ..............................

....

They weren't.

You are purposefully and willfully ignoring the information as to WHY they received inspections, not the least of which involves Englebrecht Manufacturing having a Class 7 Federal Firearms License they procured in 2009.

You have a problem with ATF doing compliance inspections of manufacturers who are licensed to make gun parts?

You have a problem with OSHA making a once in 20 year inspection that was part of a multi-state machine-parts compliance issue? There also was a complaint about their metal filings being dumped. Hey, why the fuck should Texans care about safety anyway?

KABOOM! is more their style. (then ask FEMA afterwards to hep them.)

It has nothing to do with their cray cray we-be-t-bags-so-we-be-targerts-imaginings.

There's more...and it's been shown in the thread -- never mind the fact a Texas judge has already ruled that Englebrecht's organizations are political and should not be granted tax exempt status.

If this were a dem pulling this shit, you'd be screaming tax fraud.

 

[eagle1462010]

How would you like them crawling up your butt for just trying to start a TEA PARTY GROUP ..............................

....

They weren't.

You are purposefully and willfully ignoring the information as to WHY they received inspections, not the least of which involves Englebrecht Manufacturing having a Class 7 Federal Firearms License they procured in 2009.

You have a problem with ATF doing compliance inspections of manufacturers who are licensed to make gun parts?

You have a problem with OSHA making a once in 20 year inspection that was part of a multi-state machine-parts compliance issue? There also was a complaint about their metal filings being dumped. Hey, why the fuck should Texans care about safety anyway?

KABOOM! is more their style. (then ask FEMA afterwards to hep them.)

It has nothing to do with their cray cray we-be-t-bags-so-we-be-targerts-imaginings.

There's more...and it's been shown in the thread -- never mind the fact a Texas judge has already ruled that Englebrecht's organizations are political and should not be granted tax exempt status.

If this were a dem pulling this shit, you'd be screaming tax fraud.

LOL

Union orgs get tax free status and play the same damn thing as well...........funding attack ads and promoting candidates that are PURELY POLITICAL............

How many of them had the IRS CRAWLING up their butts........................

 

[RandomVariable]

The reason the NSA is spying on everyone is for this purpose. Anyone who protests government abuse becomes a target of the FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF, the list goes on. Brownshirters with badges.

Let's see, you don't like the NSA, FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF. You left off someone in particular. I wonder why.

LOL

How would you like them crawling up your butt for just trying to start a TEA PARTY GROUP ..............................

They have functions that are needed...........Not the targeting of political group...........They believe they are the law and above it.................Not all of them, but those who participated on direct targeting of groups who don't agree with the current administration.

Is the '.' button stuck on your keyboard? There's this spray you can buy, CRC. Works great for that kind of thing.

 

[eagle1462010]

Let's see, you don't like the NSA, FBI, IRS, OSHA, EPA, FDA, ATF. You left off someone in particular. I wonder why.

LOL

How would you like them crawling up your butt for just trying to start a TEA PARTY GROUP ..............................

They have functions that are needed...........Not the targeting of political group...........They believe they are the law and above it.................Not all of them, but those who participated on direct targeting of groups who don't agree with the current administration.

Is the '.' button stuck on your keyboard? There's this spray you can buy, CRC. Works great for that kind of thing.

I have posted that way for a long time.............If it offends you or if you are sensitive to this......................................................I suggest you call the spelling and grammar police to issue me a ticket.......................................................k.......................

 

[Sallow]

This isn't done yet people............

Those organizations are now suing the IRS, and congressional ethics committees as a result of this ongoing investigation...............

They have proof they were targeted.

We have apologies from the IRS and investigations that have shown they abused their power.

And we have the Dems in full damage control over it.

that would explain your link in the above post. Oops!!! My bad. you didn't supply any

LOL

Take a look at the evidence from the hearings of those targeted...........

Oops,,,,,,,,,,,,,it doesn't support your Cherry Picked talking points.

You should be able to link some of these organizations.

 

[paperview]

For the newcomers who might have missed it:

Poor baby. Waaaa. OSHA visited us only once in 20 years, found serious violations, and even allowed us to negotiate down the fine.

Waaaaaa!

Oh, and lookie here - the big bajingle about getting visted by the FBI?

FBI officials said Engelbrecht was not under investigation.

"Pursuant to FBI policy, it would not be appropriate to comment on the nature of routine contacts made in the course of FBI business. I would caution you from assuming there would be an investigation simply because contact is alleged. Our agents talk with hundreds of people each week in the course of our work. Often, the contact may be as simple as a phone call. We routinely and pro-actively engage the public, and more importantly, have an obligation to do so in matters of mutual interest," FBI Special Agent Shauna Dunlap wrote in a response to Local 2 Investigates.


So she wasn't investigated, she was contacted. Hmmm. Ms. Fishy Fish...what up next?


Oh the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms contacted you you say. MY! That's curious. Now why would they do that?


Let's see....hmmmm....

In addition to the FBI contacts, the Engelbrecht's business was also inspected twice by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Once in 2012 and again in 2013.



Engelbrecht said she and her husband were considering diversifying the business and in 2009 the company secured a federal license to manufacture gun parts. However, Engelbrecht said the company has not yet begun manufacturing those parts.


An ATF spokesperson told Local 2 since the business received its license in 2009, the Bureau needed to conduct an inspection within a three year period, as is routine for other similar businesses.

While prohibited from discussing the specifics of an inspection, an ATF spokesperson said the 2013 inspection was either a separate inspection or a follow-up to the first inspection because deficiencies were noted. However, the ATF said a follow-up inspection would be of an "educational, not punitive" nature.

Houston-area couple questions federal, state scrutiny | News - Home

Engelbrecht = big fat lying pile of duplicitous goo.

 

[paperview]

Some more background links on these dinks:

Rob Richie: True the Vote Presents False Findings

The Ballot Cops - Mariah Blake - The Atlantic

 

[eagle1462010]

Houston-area couple questions federal, state scrutiny | News - Home

4 years and thousands of documents submitted with no final answer to tax free status.

Exactly why does it take 3 years to determine this status.....................

Exactly what IRS regulation requires 1,000's of documents...................

Well...................The IRS has blatantly refused to answer these questions over the years........and now suddenly the libs on this board can answer it for them.

 

[paperview]

More:

"Engelbrecht is trying to connect True the Vote to the IRS improperly singling-out Tea Party groups for review based exclusively on their names or political views.
But the comparison is not accurate.


For one, in contrast with the Tea Party groups seeking 501(c)(4) nonprofit status, True the Vote is seeking 501(c)(3) "charity" status, according to its website and news reports.



The former can engage in some political activity, but the latter has an absolute bar against any campaign or electoral intervention.

Part of the reason for this restriction is that unlike donations to (c)(4)s, contributions to 501(c)(3) organizations can be written-off as a charitable tax deduction -- and Congress long ago decided that wealthy donors should not get a tax break for influencing elections.


In the case of the 501(c)(4) Tea Party groups, the IRS erred by singling-out some groups based exclusively on their names or political views, rather than evidence they engaged in potentially excessive political activity.


But for the 501(c)(3) True the Vote, the IRS may properly scrutinize its application if there is evidence of any campaign or political intervention. And indeed, there is significant evidence -- and True the Vote likely knows this."


"True the Vote," the Victim? Voter Vigilante Group Says IRS Targeted Its "Verify the Recall" Effort in Wisconsin | PR Watch


You hear that? They want to be known as a tax-deductible CHARITY.