Debunking the Voting Fraud Conspiracy Theories

[pyetro]

First, in Wisconsin, the conspiracy theory that there was a big fraudulent dump for Biden in the middle of the night. This is false. The increase in votes overnight was due to how ballots are processed, counted and reported in Wisconsin.

The morning after Election Day, President Donald Trump took to Twitter and claimed that people were “finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.”​

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At a press conference in Philadelphia that afternoon, Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani repeated the deceptive claim. “In Wisconsin, mysteriously at 4 in the morning, 120,000 ballots appeared,” Giuliani said. “Here come these ballots. Well, we have no idea if they really are ballots.”​

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Across social media, supporters picked up the narrative. “Between 3:30-4:30AM, they ‘found’ 140,000 mail in ballots for Biden in Wisconsin,” tweeted Nick Adams, a staunch pro-Trump political commentator. He added, falsely: “All for Biden. None for Trump.” ...​

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For years, Wisconsin’s clerks have asked the Legislature for flexibility in counting absentee ballots. One bill last year proposed allowing clerks to start pre-processing absentee ballots the day before Election Day. Another proposed to at least allow in-person absentee voters to feed their ballots into tabulators.​

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Clerks said either measure would save them from the extraordinary stress of processing increasingly large numbers of absentee ballots on Election Day. Such flexibility became even more urgent as COVID-19’s spread made it clear that a record-breaking 1.8 million Wisconsinites could cast absentee ballots this election. ...​

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The viral firestorm of misinformation about absentee ballots is “precisely” the type of drama that clerks hoped to avoid, said Milwaukee Election Commission head Claire Woodall-Vogg. ...​

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Wisconsin is one of just four states where election workers are not allowed to pre-process absentee ballots until Election Day. Pre-processing could cover a range of tasks including slicing open envelopes, fixing damaged ballots and feeding them through tabulator machines. ...​

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Although the machines would be keeping a tally, the counts would not be known to clerks or disclosed to the public until after the polls closed on Election Day. ...​

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As a result, cities like Milwaukee and Green Bay that transport their ballots to a central location for counting did not finish tabulating absentee results until 2 to 4 a.m. And because many Democratic voters chose absentee voting this year, that meant the majority of votes processed at the end were for former Vice President Joe Biden.​

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For weeks, top officials and election experts have been telling the public to expect this pattern because absentee ballot results are often the last to be tabulated.​

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“The absentee ballots in MKE that were reported in the early morning hours were NOT a surprise," Assembly Majority Leader Jim Steineke, R-Kaukauna, wrote on Facebook on Wednesday. "We knew exactly how many were out there the entire day. Them being reported late is NOT an indication of fraud.” ...​

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A Journal Sentinel analysis of Associated Press data shows that between 3:26 a.m. and 3:44 a.m., Biden’s share of votes in Wisconsin jumped by 149,520 and Trump’s by 31,803. The vast majority of the new votes were due to Wisconsin’s largest city, Milwaukee, finishing its absentee count and reporting 143,124 votes for Biden and 23,642 votes for Trump.​

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Under the law, municipalities like Milwaukee that count ballots in a central facility instead of at the polling site must report their tallies in a lump sum. Woodall-Vogg said she asked the Wisconsin Elections Commission for permission to release a partial update of results at 8 p.m. specifically “to avoid this dramatic narrative that’s completely false.”​

Ballot clerks asked for help. Lawmakers didn't act. Disinformation followed.

The Legislature had a chance to head off the confusion and misinformation about Wisconsin's late-night ballot count. Lawmakers didn't take action.

www.jsonline.com

Be careful, moderators get triggered by news that fraud allegations are fake.
Your thread will be sent to the Cooking forum.
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[pyetro]

How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation

You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.

Simply because your media says don't look there
Doesn't make it not true.

But when a postal worker says something you believe it, even after he recants.
Rube.

 

[progressive hunter]

How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation

You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.

Simply because your media says don't look there
Doesn't make it not true.

But when a postal worker says something you believe it, even after he recants.
Rube.

he didnt recant,,,

 

[Toro]

“Wisconsin’s election was conducted according to law and in the open,” said Meagan Wolfe, Wisconsin’s chief election official. “While the results are still unofficial and are currently being triple checked as part of the canvass and certification process, we have not seen any credible information to cast any doubt on those unofficial results.”​

Wolfe further stated, “When issues are reported to our office, we take them very seriously. We look into each allegation and request evidence from parties involved. At this time, no evidence has been provided that supports allegations of systemic or widespread election issues.”​

“Unfortunately, we are seeing many concerns that result from this unsubstantiated misinformation. We want Wisconsin’s voters to know we hear their concerns and to provide facts on these processes to combat the rumors and misinformation,” Wolfe said.​

Every step of the election process is publicly observable and transparent, Wolfe said. This includes voting at the polls on Election Day and the counting of absentee ballots. It also includes the canvass and certification of the tally that is happening right now in counties across the state. Every ballot cast in Wisconsin has a paper audit trail. Voting equipment is randomly selected for audit after the presidential election and the paper trail is audited against the electronic vote totals; this process is conducted as part of a public meeting. If there is a recount, these materials will again be analyzed, as they were in 2016.​

“Election results in Wisconsin are triple-checked for accuracy before they are certified,” Wolfe said. “Your municipal and county clerks, and the staff of the Wisconsin Elections Commission are looking at everything to ensure the will of the voters is carried out and to affirm that only valid ballots were cast and counted.”​

Correcting Misinformation about Wisconsin’s Election | Wisconsin Elections Commission

MADISON, WI – In the week after the presidential election, misinformation has circulated on social media and political websites raising unfounded rumors about the integrity of Wisconsin’s election results. “Wisconsin’s election was conducted according to law and in the open,” said Meagan Wolfe...

elections.wi.gov

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

“Wisconsin’s election was conducted according to law and in the open,” said Meagan Wolfe, Wisconsin’s chief election official. “While the results are still unofficial and are currently being triple checked as part of the canvass and certification process, we have not seen any credible information to cast any doubt on those unofficial results.”​

Wolfe further stated, “When issues are reported to our office, we take them very seriously. We look into each allegation and request evidence from parties involved. At this time, no evidence has been provided that supports allegations of systemic or widespread election issues.”​

“Unfortunately, we are seeing many concerns that result from this unsubstantiated misinformation. We want Wisconsin’s voters to know we hear their concerns and to provide facts on these processes to combat the rumors and misinformation,” Wolfe said.​

Every step of the election process is publicly observable and transparent, Wolfe said. This includes voting at the polls on Election Day and the counting of absentee ballots. It also includes the canvass and certification of the tally that is happening right now in counties across the state. Every ballot cast in Wisconsin has a paper audit trail. Voting equipment is randomly selected for audit after the presidential election and the paper trail is audited against the electronic vote totals; this process is conducted as part of a public meeting. If there is a recount, these materials will again be analyzed, as they were in 2016.​

“Election results in Wisconsin are triple-checked for accuracy before they are certified,” Wolfe said. “Your municipal and county clerks, and the staff of the Wisconsin Elections Commission are looking at everything to ensure the will of the voters is carried out and to affirm that only valid ballots were cast and counted.”​

Correcting Misinformation about Wisconsin’s Election | Wisconsin Elections Commission

MADISON, WI – In the week after the presidential election, misinformation has circulated on social media and political websites raising unfounded rumors about the integrity of Wisconsin’s election results. “Wisconsin’s election was conducted according to law and in the open,” said Meagan Wolfe...

elections.wi.gov

Thank you again Toro for the excellent research.

Wisconsin’s chief election officer, Meagan Wolfe, quoted in the report above, was selected in a bipartisan process, took office under the previous Republican Governor’s administration and her appointment was approved unanimously by a Republican-controlled State Senate:

State Senate Confirms Meagan Wolfe As Elections Leader

 

[Toro]

This is a good article about how Trump's lawsuits state by state have been baseless or are inconsequential.

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“WATCH FOR MASSIVE BALLOT COUNTING ABUSE,” Trump tweeted Tuesday, the latest in a series of missives in which he has made misleading claims about the vote. Trump’s campaign has encouraged donors to contribute to a legal-defense fund so he can fight the cases in court.​

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But in the lawsuits themselves, even Trump’s campaign and allies do not allege widespread fraud or an election-changing conspiracy.​

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Instead, GOP groups for the most part have focused on smaller-bore complaints in an effort to delay the counting of ballots or claims that would affect a small fraction of votes, at best.​

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And, even then, they have largely lost in court.​

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The reason: Judges have said the Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay. Or in one case, hearsay written on a sticky note.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-irregularities-claims/2020/11/08/8f704e6c-2141-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

 

[Toro]

More on the so-called 9,000 fraudulent votes in NV

Matt Schlapp’s baseless claim about Nevada mail ballots

As supporters of President Donald Trump ramp up their efforts to delegitimize the election with unsubstantiated allegati

www.politifact.com

 

[Lesh]

Give it up Trumpers.

You got nothing

You look like shit here

 

[Toro]

AZ AG says that the number of votes affected by legitimate complaints is 200.

And he expects Biden to win the state.

 

[Toro]

On Wednesday, President Trump’s campaign asked a federal judge to take a drastic step: block the state of Michigan from certifying the results of its presidential election. President-elect Joe Biden now leads Trump by about 148,000 votes there. To back up that lawsuit, Trump’s campaign had promised “shocking” evidence of misconduct.

Instead, the campaign produced 238 pages of affidavits from Republican poll watchers across Michigan containing no evidence of significant fraud but rather allegations about ballot-counting procedures that state workers have already debunked — and in some cases, complaints about rude behavior or unpleasant looks from poll workers or Democratic poll watchers. ...

But when The Washington Post reviewed the affidavits Wednesday, they appeared to be a grab bag of statements from GOP poll watchers all over the state. The poll watchers were Republicans who received some brief training — one woman estimated it took 20 minutes — and then were allowed to observe Detroit election workers processing and tabulating mail-in ballots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michigan--poll-watcher-affidavits/2020/11/11/4d073d7a-2447-11eb-a688-5298ad5d580a_story.html

 

[Toro]

No, Nancy Pelosi's husband is not a majority shareholder in Dominion Voting Systems.

Bartiromo also made false claims about Dominion during her interview with Powell. While Bartiromo correctly notes that a former chief of staff to Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Nadeam Elshami, is now a lobbyist for Dominion (and fails to mention that a number of Republican staffers are as well), there is also no evidence to support Bartiromo’s claim that “Richard Blum, Senator Feinstein’s husband, [is] a significant shareholder of [Dominion].” The claims have also been made on social media and in articles from websites like DJHJ Media.​

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Dominion Vice President of Government Affairs Kay Stimson told The Dispatch Fact Check that “this is a false claim spread on social media. The company has no financial relationship with Mr. Blum.”​

Fact Check: Explaining the False Allegations About Dominion Voting Systems

The vote-counting software has been the subject of conspiracy theories about Democrats ‘stealing the election.’

factcheck.thedispatch.com

 

[Toro]

re: 2.7 million votes were switched from Biden to Trump buy Dominion Voting Systems

“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” says a statement emailed to reporters Thursday by the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency, a federal agency that oversees U.S. election security. “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history.” ...​

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There is also “no factual basis” for Trump’s claims that 221,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden in Pennsylvania, Ellen Lyon, spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Department of State, said in an email.​

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The “report” Trump mentions in his tweet was aired on the conservative television network One America News Network, which promoted a theory posted to a pro-Trump blog that claimed that millions of votes were switched or deleted in Biden’s favor. The TV network did not immediately respond to a request for comment.​

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The anonymous commenter who posted the theory claimed the findings are supported by data from the polling firm Edison Research. Yet the company has not produced such a report, said Larry Rosin, the president of Edison Research.​

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“We have no evidence of any voter fraud,” Rosin said in an email.​

AP FACT CHECK: Trump tweets a tall tale of 'deleted' votes

President Donald Trump falsely claimed on Twitter that an election technology firm “deleted” large numbers of his votes or “switched” them to count for Joe Biden — the latest in a series of baseless theories suggesting vote counting problems that the president has been promoting.

apnews.com

 

[L.K.Eder]

re: 2.7 million votes were switched from Biden to Trump buy Dominion Voting Systems

“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” says a statement emailed to reporters Thursday by the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency, a federal agency that oversees U.S. election security. “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history.” ...​

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There is also “no factual basis” for Trump’s claims that 221,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden in Pennsylvania, Ellen Lyon, spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Department of State, said in an email.​

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The “report” Trump mentions in his tweet was aired on the conservative television network One America News Network, which promoted a theory posted to a pro-Trump blog that claimed that millions of votes were switched or deleted in Biden’s favor. The TV network did not immediately respond to a request for comment.​

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The anonymous commenter who posted the theory claimed the findings are supported by data from the polling firm Edison Research. Yet the company has not produced such a report, said Larry Rosin, the president of Edison Research.​

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“We have no evidence of any voter fraud,” Rosin said in an email.​

AP FACT CHECK: Trump tweets a tall tale of 'deleted' votes

President Donald Trump falsely claimed on Twitter that an election technology firm “deleted” large numbers of his votes or “switched” them to count for Joe Biden — the latest in a series of baseless theories suggesting vote counting problems that the president has been promoting.

apnews.com

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[Uncensored2008]

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[Dante Reawakened]

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[Lesh]

you are yucking it up there, marxist.

in real alternative life, i can report a massive US troop movement in southern germany. they have attacked, taken down the illegal server hub operated by soros and hillary in frankfrucht, and found proof that trump has been reelected with 97.8% of all legal votes.

Q Lives

 

[Uncensored2008]

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[Dante Reawakened]

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[Dante Reawakened]

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Bob Dole

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