Debt solution.....Cuts vs Tax increases?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Grampa Murked U, Jul 12, 2011.

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Should taxe increases be included in the new debt ceiling?

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  2. NO

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    You lefties keep insisting on new taxes to help lower our debt. Problem is tax increases have NEVER been used to lower the amount we have to borrow. In fact even with tax increases we always deficit spend in the end anyways. Why should we trust washington now to do whats right? Do you all enjoy being taken advantage of year after year?

    Fact is a lot of americans are already taxed as a total between 50 & 60% of their income. That is the very type of opressive taxiation we escaped when we fought and founded this great country. Yet now we have no problem putting the boot on our own cicizens necks while robbing them of THEIR money, in the name of "paying your share". Meanwhile nearly 50% of this country is able to escape the larger share. But we'll save that for another discussion.

    Lets look a bit deeper,

    The left succeded in getting 770 billion of new taxes in the healthcare bill
    Weekly Political Review: Surprise! New CBO Report: Repealing ObamaCare Will Reduce Spending By $540B, Taxes By $770B

    When the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire the average american family will see an increase of 2500 to 5500
    How Much More Will 2011 Taxes Cost You – Bush Tax Cuts vs Democratic Plan | Money and Risk

    Just those two issues alone are going to be a huge burdon to this struggling economy not to mention devastating to alot of families. AND NOW YOU WANT MORE?

    The republicans are doing the right thing by insisting on NO NEW TAXES :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
     
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    no opinions eh?
     
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    You are factually wrong by a mile.

    We raised taxes to pay for the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam (and maybe a few wars back then I'm leaving out).
     
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    You need to read a book, Gramps.
     
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    LMAO.........even Obama said in 2009........no way you raise taxes in a recession. America is on the cusp of another as we speak. The only people who think its a good idea to raise taxes are the folks on the fringe left. Its that simple.

    But dont forget..........these same people advocating for rasing taxes are the same people who would be just fine with the economy going further into the shitter. Thats a win-win for the k00k left..........anything closer to a state takeover of the system is where they want things in a perfect world. A majority of people dont understand that. These people seek collapse.
     
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    NO. There is no need to raise taxes until every penny of unConstitional and extra-Constitutional spending has been removed from the budget, until all US Military and Governmental personnel are withdrawn from foreign nations, and until we stop propping up foreign countries with the monies already raised from US Taxpayers. Until then, NO TAXES should be raised, period.
     
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    What does a book have to do with a total combined tax burden?
     
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    What am I factually wrong about? I wasnt saying anything about raising taxes for war or because of war.
     
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    Whenever I look at this thread title, I see Cubs vs Tex.
     
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    Why the fuck do we have to borrow?

    What happened to the Social Security Trust Fund?

    If the politicians are fucking nuts why should I care, let the mo'fo's pay the debt themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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