Debt Apocalypse, our economy will collapse within a decade.What’s your specific solution? Numbers.

[ColonelAngus]

We are roughly $22 trillion in debt and adding about $1 trillion per year.

My solution is to cut SPENDING BY 20% across the board immediately.

2020 budget is $4.7 trillion. For 2021, it should be $3.8 trillion. Then 10% reduction for 2 years. 2022: $3.4 trillion, 2023: $3 trillion. Then hold, it at $3 trillion until the debt is paid off.

Also, 20% flat tax on every dime earned over $20,000 in America, period. No deductions.

If we don’t get this shit handled, it’s going to crash and these wussy millennials and Igens will be eating out of garbage cans.

This is an INEVITABILITY. IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH NOW.

This is much more dangerous to our economy than cow farts.

So, what is your solution?

If you are an NPC leftist that is just going to post, “Orange Man Bad!”, don’t waste your time.

Give specific number or get lost.

Yes, I am mad at Trump ford signing the past 2 budgets. He should have fired ALL NON ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS.

SOLUTIONS:

$15 MANDATORY MINIMUM WAGE

ELIMINATE THE LAW THAT MAKES CROSSING INTO THE US ILLEGALLY A CRIME

ELIMINATION OF ICE

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, ECDUCATION, FOOD, ETC... TO ILLEGALS

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' COLLEGE TUITION TO EVERYONE

'THE GREEN NEW DEAL'
- UPGRADE / REBUILD EVERY BUILDING IN THE US
- SOLAR-POWERED HIGH-SPEED RAIL ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AIR TRAVEL
- OUTLAWING FOSSIL FUEL / NUCLEAR ENERGY USE
- OUTLAWING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
- WINNING THE WAR AGAINST BOVINE FLATULENCE

MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MAKE FUN OF DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS

PAYING EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN OVER THE GAE OF 18 $1,000 PER MONTH

ELIMINATING THE 2ND AMENDMENT

MAKING IT LEGAL TO KILL NEWBORN BABIES

OFFICIALLY NAMING 'WHITE SUPREMACISTS' AS TERRORISTS....BUT NOT DOING THE SAME FOR ANTIFA, WHO TOOK MONEY FROM THE RUSSIANS TO SPREAD RACIAL DIVISION AND VIOLENCE, WHO INITIATED VIOLENCE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, BURNED BALTIMORE, BEAT DOWN A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST, ATTACKED A US GOVT FEDERAL DETENTION FACILITY, AND COMMITTED A MASS SHOOTING IN OHIO....

What's the solution? ALL of THIS....according to Democrats / snowflakes......

Yes, those are solutions to crush the economy and become a fascist socialist nation with no private property rights.

Its amazing how bad liberal policies are.

Trump policy been great at adding debt.

Like Barry's wasn't....?

The Democrats have held the House - they own the budget, the purse strings, the spending.....What are they doing about it...besides still trying to 'un-do' the 2016 election?

How stupid are you? I said vote them out, that means deficit Donald too.

I agree with you that Trump was WRONG.

See what I did there? I disagreed with Trump/

Trump should have not signed the budget the Dimm controlled house submitted to him.

He should have SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND FIRED ALL “NON-ESSENTIAL” personnel.

That being said, it doesn’t make me wish Hillary was in office and it won’t make me vote for Biden

 

[Brain357]

SOLUTIONS:

$15 MANDATORY MINIMUM WAGE

ELIMINATE THE LAW THAT MAKES CROSSING INTO THE US ILLEGALLY A CRIME

ELIMINATION OF ICE

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, ECDUCATION, FOOD, ETC... TO ILLEGALS

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' COLLEGE TUITION TO EVERYONE

'THE GREEN NEW DEAL'
- UPGRADE / REBUILD EVERY BUILDING IN THE US
- SOLAR-POWERED HIGH-SPEED RAIL ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AIR TRAVEL
- OUTLAWING FOSSIL FUEL / NUCLEAR ENERGY USE
- OUTLAWING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
- WINNING THE WAR AGAINST BOVINE FLATULENCE

MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MAKE FUN OF DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS

PAYING EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN OVER THE GAE OF 18 $1,000 PER MONTH

ELIMINATING THE 2ND AMENDMENT

MAKING IT LEGAL TO KILL NEWBORN BABIES

OFFICIALLY NAMING 'WHITE SUPREMACISTS' AS TERRORISTS....BUT NOT DOING THE SAME FOR ANTIFA, WHO TOOK MONEY FROM THE RUSSIANS TO SPREAD RACIAL DIVISION AND VIOLENCE, WHO INITIATED VIOLENCE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, BURNED BALTIMORE, BEAT DOWN A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST, ATTACKED A US GOVT FEDERAL DETENTION FACILITY, AND COMMITTED A MASS SHOOTING IN OHIO....

What's the solution? ALL of THIS....according to Democrats / snowflakes......

Yes, those are solutions to crush the economy and become a fascist socialist nation with no private property rights.

Its amazing how bad liberal policies are.

Trump policy been great at adding debt.

Like Barry's wasn't....?

The Democrats have held the House - they own the budget, the purse strings, the spending.....What are they doing about it...besides still trying to 'un-do' the 2016 election?

How stupid are you? I said vote them out, that means deficit Donald too.

I agree with you that Trump was WRONG.

See what I did there? I disagreed with Trump/

Trump should have not signed the budget the Dimm controlled house submitted to him.

He should have SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND FIRED ALL “NON-ESSENTIAL” personnel.

That being said, it doesn’t make me wish Hillary was in office and it won’t make me vote for Biden

So trump can count on your vote, nothing will change. He has no incentive to change and you won’t vote him out.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Lefties are so predictable.

So full of garbage. All platitudes and no real ideas.

No principles, values, morals, or ideals. Just parrots of talking points.

 

[Brain357]

Lefties are so predictable.

So full of garbage. All platitudes and no real ideas.

No principles, values, morals, or ideals. Just parrots of talking points.

You pretend to care, but not enough to actually vote out the spenders. Look in the mirror.

 

[easyt65]

We need to make it clear politicians who spend lose elections. Until then it doesn’t matter. Trump added tons of debt and can still count on your vote.

$15 MANDATORY MINIMUM WAGE

ELIMINATE THE LAW THAT MAKES CROSSING INTO THE US ILLEGALLY A CRIME

ELIMINATION OF ICE

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, ECDUCATION, FOOD, ETC... TO ILLEGALS

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' COLLEGE TUITION TO EVERYONE

'THE GREEN NEW DEAL'
- UPGRADE / REBUILD EVERY BUILDING IN THE US
- SOLAR-POWERED HIGH-SPEED RAIL ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AIR TRAVEL
- OUTLAWING FOSSIL FUEL / NUCLEAR ENERGY USE
- OUTLAWING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
- WINNING THE WAR AGAINST BOVINE FLATULENCE

MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MAKE FUN OF DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS

PAYING EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN OVER THE AGE OF 18 $1,000 PER MONTH

ELIMINATING THE 2ND AMENDMENT

MAKING IT LEGAL TO KILL NEWBORN BABIES

OFFICIALLY NAMING 'WHITE SUPREMACISTS' AS TERRORISTS....BUT NOT DOING THE SAME FOR ANTIFA, WHO TOOK MONEY FROM THE RUSSIANS TO SPREAD RACIAL DIVISION AND VIOLENCE, WHO INITIATED VIOLENCE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, BURNED BALTIMORE, BEAT DOWN A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST, ATTACKED A US GOVT FEDERAL DETENTION FACILITY, AND COMMITTED A MASS SHOOTING IN OHIO....

THIS is the Democrats' plan...straight from the Socialists' mouths. This is not a 'SOLUTION' - this is expediting the collapse of the United States. This is pouring gasoline on the fire. AOC even admitted that before her 'Green New Deal' could ever be implemented the US would financially collapse because of it.

If 'we need to make it clear politicians who spend lose elections' then you need to let the Socialist Democrat Party's nominees they have already lost if this is their platform.

 

[Brain357]

We need to make it clear politicians who spend lose elections. Until then it doesn’t matter. Trump added tons of debt and can still count on your vote.

$15 MANDATORY MINIMUM WAGE

ELIMINATE THE LAW THAT MAKES CROSSING INTO THE US ILLEGALLY A CRIME

ELIMINATION OF ICE

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, ECDUCATION, FOOD, ETC... TO ILLEGALS

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' COLLEGE TUITION TO EVERYONE

'THE GREEN NEW DEAL'
- UPGRADE / REBUILD EVERY BUILDING IN THE US
- SOLAR-POWERED HIGH-SPEED RAIL ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AIR TRAVEL
- OUTLAWING FOSSIL FUEL / NUCLEAR ENERGY USE
- OUTLAWING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
- WINNING THE WAR AGAINST BOVINE FLATULENCE

MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MAKE FUN OF DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS

PAYING EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN OVER THE AGE OF 18 $1,000 PER MONTH

ELIMINATING THE 2ND AMENDMENT

MAKING IT LEGAL TO KILL NEWBORN BABIES

OFFICIALLY NAMING 'WHITE SUPREMACISTS' AS TERRORISTS....BUT NOT DOING THE SAME FOR ANTIFA, WHO TOOK MONEY FROM THE RUSSIANS TO SPREAD RACIAL DIVISION AND VIOLENCE, WHO INITIATED VIOLENCE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, BURNED BALTIMORE, BEAT DOWN A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST, ATTACKED A US GOVT FEDERAL DETENTION FACILITY, AND COMMITTED A MASS SHOOTING IN OHIO....

THIS is the Democrats' plan...straight from the Socialists' mouths. This is not a 'SOLUTION' - this is expediting the collapse of the United States. This is pouring gasoline on the fire. AOC even admitted that before her 'Green New Deal' could ever be implemented the US would financially collapse because of it.

If 'we need to make it clear politicians who spend lose elections' then you need to let the Socialist Democrat Party's nominees they have already lost if this is their platform.

Yeah keep voting for the guy who really increased deficits drastically.

 

[easyt65]

How stupid are you? I said vote them out, that means deficit Donald too.

There is no alternative / better option right now.

 

[jwoodie]

Freeze the federal budget with no COLAs until we grow/inflate our way out of deficits. (This may require a Constitutional Amendment to enforce.)

Drastic cuts are unrealistic as they would cause severe economic and political disruption.

 

[bendog]

For the first liberal who actually walks through a schedule to get out of debt, PM me and I will send you $10 through Vimeo or pay pal.

You have to actually post numbers and years. You have to be specific.

So, you blame "the liberals." How unsurprising from a partisan reactionary.

 

[easyt65]

Yeah keep voting for the guy who really increased deficits drastically.

I never voted for Barry, and he's gone any way....

 

[DOTR]

Why did the Dems take over the house and then increase the deficit?
?

Are you serious? You may as well ask "why is water wet". Its what they do.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Freeze the federal budget with no COLAs until we grow/inflate our way out of deficits. (This may require a Constitutional Amendment to enforce.)

Drastic cuts are unrealistic as they would cause severe economic and political disruption.

I know that no one has the balls to cut spending, but it needs to be done.

It’s only unrealistic because our elected officials want money and power and don’t truly care about the health of the nation.

 

[easyt65]

So, you blame "the liberals." How unsurprising from a partisan reactionary.

Democrats controlled the House / Congress - the budget, spending, the purse strings, the economy...the last 2 years of the Bush administration and the 1st 2 years of Barry's....and now Democrats - the same traitors who have been attempting to 'undo' the 2016 election for 3 years - have controlled it for the last year....what have they done about it? Their solution is to 'pour gas on the fire', which is not an option......

 

[bendog]

It’s so odd that lefties don’t care about the debt.

You guys are really misguided and really stupid.

It’s simple math. Our economy will crash at this pace within a decade. We won’t make our debt payments and interest rates will skyrocket because we will have to pay higher interest rates on T bills because we will be riskyz.

Keep worrying about transgendered rights.

Deficits were decreasing until we had 2 years of repubs in full control. Who doesn’t care?

Deficits may have been decreasing, but the debt was still growing.

Why are we spending more than we take it period?

Why did the Dems take over the house and then increase the deficit?

What is your specific solution?

It matters when deficits decrease, or at least stay relatively steady, is because the reason we fact a debt debacle is our gnp may not be large enough to pay the interest on the total debt.

us debt to gdp historical chart - Yahoo Image Search Results

It's not totally unlike a mortgage that you don't plan to pay off in your lifetime. So long as your income rises gradually, and your monthly payments of principle+interest stay the same, the actual burden of the mortgage lessens over time.

 

[DOTR]

We are roughly $22 trillion in debt and adding about $1 trillion per year.

My solution is to cut SPENDING BY 20% across the board immediately.

2020 budget is $4.7 trillion. For 2021, it should be $3.8 trillion. Then 10% reduction for 2 years. 2022: $3.4 trillion, 2023: $3 trillion. Then hold, it at $3 trillion until the debt is paid off.

Also, 20% flat tax on every dime earned over $20,000 in America, period. No deductions.

If we don’t get this shit handled, it’s going to crash and these wussy millennials and Igens will be eating out of garbage cans.

This is an INEVITABILITY. IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH NOW.

This is much more dangerous to our economy than cow farts.

So, what is your solution?

If you are an NPC leftist that is just going to post, “Orange Man Bad!”, don’t waste your time.

Give specific number or get lost.

Yes, I am mad at Trump ford signing the past 2 budgets. He should have fired ALL NON ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS.

SOLUTIONS:

$15 MANDATORY MINIMUM WAGE

ELIMINATE THE LAW THAT MAKES CROSSING INTO THE US ILLEGALLY A CRIME

ELIMINATION OF ICE

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, ECDUCATION, FOOD, ETC... TO ILLEGALS

PROVIDING MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYER / DEFICIT-FUNDED 'FREE' COLLEGE TUITION TO EVERYONE

'THE GREEN NEW DEAL'
- UPGRADE / REBUILD EVERY BUILDING IN THE US
- SOLAR-POWERED HIGH-SPEED RAIL ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AIR TRAVEL
- OUTLAWING FOSSIL FUEL / NUCLEAR ENERGY USE
- OUTLAWING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
- WINNING THE WAR AGAINST BOVINE FLATULENCE

MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MAKE FUN OF DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS

PAYING EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN OVER THE GAE OF 18 $1,000 PER MONTH

ELIMINATING THE 2ND AMENDMENT

MAKING IT LEGAL TO KILL NEWBORN BABIES

OFFICIALLY NAMING 'WHITE SUPREMACISTS' AS TERRORISTS....BUT NOT DOING THE SAME FOR ANTIFA, WHO TOOK MONEY FROM THE RUSSIANS TO SPREAD RACIAL DIVISION AND VIOLENCE, WHO INITIATED VIOLENCE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, BURNED BALTIMORE, BEAT DOWN A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST, ATTACKED A US GOVT FEDERAL DETENTION FACILITY, AND COMMITTED A MASS SHOOTING IN OHIO....

What's the solution? ALL of THIS....according to Democrats / snowflakes......

Yes, those are solutions to crush the economy and become a fascist socialist nation with no private property rights.

Its amazing how bad liberal policies are.

Trump policy been great at adding debt.

Lay out your specific plan to eliminate the debt.

Give us numbers.

This is why the debt is where it is now. The thought that the Federal government can be controlled somehow. Remember Gramm-Rudman? How about the Debt Ceiling? Which one do you want to revisit?

So I wont give you numbers. Ill give you principles.

Break the coalition between the wealthy elites and the underclass.
Tie voting to tax payments.
Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.
Close the border.

 

[Siete]

like I said on another thread - two or three more 4 trillion dollar budgets from Trump will be great for us ---

 

[DOTR]

I know that no one has the balls to cut spending, but it needs to be done.

It’s only unrealistic because our elected officials want money and power and don’t truly care about the health of the nation.

Now I can agree with you there. So...having understood that...whats the solution? If the one that comes to mind isnt pleasant then you got it right.

 

[bendog]

like I said on another thread - two or three more 4 trillion dollar budgets from Trump will be great for us ---

the left may achieve their goal of ending US military dominance in the world, and we can return to 1910

 

[DOTR]

It’s so odd that lefties don’t care about the debt.

You guys are really misguided and really stupid.

It’s simple math. Our economy will crash at this pace within a decade. We won’t make our debt payments and interest rates will skyrocket because we will have to pay higher interest rates on T bills because we will be riskyz.

Keep worrying about transgendered rights.

Deficits were decreasing until we had 2 years of repubs in full control. Who doesn’t care?

Deficits may have been decreasing, but the debt was still growing.

Why are we spending more than we take it period?

Why did the Dems take over the house and then increase the deficit?

What is your specific solution?

It matters when deficits decrease, or at least stay relatively steady, is because the reason we fact a debt debacle is our gnp may not be large enough to pay the interest on the total debt.

us debt to gdp historical chart - Yahoo Image Search Results

It's not totally unlike a mortgage that you don't plan to pay off in your lifetime. So long as your income rises gradually, and your monthly payments of principle+interest stay the same, the actual burden of the mortgage lessens over time.

Interesting. So we are in some kind of crisis akin to WWII? Or did something change in America since WWII? The Civil War didnt cause this much debt and that was with Americans killing each other and tearing up railroads and burning cities to the ground.

So whats really going on?

 

[Fang]

We are roughly $22 trillion in debt and adding about $1 trillion per year.

My solution is to cut SPENDING BY 20% across the board immediately.

2020 budget is $4.7 trillion. For 2021, it should be $3.8 trillion. Then 10% reduction for 2 years. 2022: $3.4 trillion, 2023: $3 trillion. Then hold, it at $3 trillion until the debt is paid off.

Also, 20% flat tax on every dime earned over $20,000 in America, period. No deductions.

If we don’t get this shit handled, it’s going to crash and these wussy millennials and Igens will be eating out of garbage cans.

This is an INEVITABILITY. IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH NOW.

This is much more dangerous to our economy than cow farts.

So, what is your solution?

If you are an NPC leftist that is just going to post, “Orange Man Bad!”, don’t waste your time.

Give specific number or get lost.

Yes, I am mad at Trump ford signing the past 2 budgets. He should have fired ALL NON ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS.

This is never getting solved until both sides agree it's a priority and agree on a plan of action. This means candidates can't campaign on giving you tons of free shit or major tax cuts if it doesn't fit the plan agreed on by both sides.There can't be an advantage on the campaign trail by promising something for the sake of votes that puts us further into debt. Right now both sides sit back while the other party is in office and is more than happy to say, "See, they added to the debt". Neither will help the other side and neither wants to be the bad guy taking shit away.