Danish paper rejected Jesus cartoons

[manu1959]

Muslims have taken a violent stand regarding what THEY believe to be sacred. Nations and the media now must decide a course of action. I assume the course of action will depend on the political climate. The US has it's own laws regarding freedom of speech which includes the right to trash any religious figure you want to. Now if you show a nipple on TV, we will take away some of your money instead of poking your eyes out. Taking away money and freedom for disobeying our censorship laws is much more "humane" and accepted as legit by most Americans.
Americans don't understand muslims but maybe some are beginning to understand the things that muslims accept as "normal" for an Islamic theocracy.
( Is the ACLU popping up to support the press' right to attack anything they please ? )

muslims are demanding that you accept and belive what they belive or they will kill you.....btw did they all have danish flags at home?

 

[Annie]

Gwladys Fouché and agencies
Monday February 6, 2006

Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.

The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny.

In April 2003, Danish illustrator Christoffer Zieler submitted a series of unsolicited cartoons dealing with the resurrection of Christ to Jyllands-Posten.

Zieler received an email back from the paper's Sunday editor, Jens Kaiser, which said: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them."

The illustrator told the Norwegian daily Dagbladet, which saw the email: "I see the cartoons as an innocent joke, of the type that my Christian grandfather would enjoy."

"I showed them to a few pastors and they thought they were funny."

He said that he felt Jyllands-Posten rated the feelings of its Christian readers higher than that of its Muslim readers.

But the Jyllands-Posten editor in question, Mr Kaiser, told MediaGuardian.co.uk that the case was "ridiculous to bring forward now. It has nothing to do with the Muhammad cartoons.

"In the Muhammad drawings case, we asked the illustrators to do it. I did not ask for these cartoons. That's the difference," he said.

"The illustrator thought his cartoons were funny. I did not think so. It would offend some readers, not much but some."

The decision smacks of "double-standards", said Ahmed Akkari, spokesman for the Danish-based European Committee for Prophet Honouring, the umbrella group that represents 27 Muslim organisations that are campaigning for a full apology from Jyllands-Posten.

"How can Jyllands-Posten distinguish the two cases? Surely they must understand," Mr Akkari added.

Meanwhile, the editor of a Malaysian newspaper resigned over the weekend after printing one of the Muhammad cartoons that have unleashed a storm of protest across the Islamic world.

Malaysia's Sunday Tribune, based in the remote state of Sarawak, on Borneo island, ran one of the Danish cartoons on Saturday. It is unclear which one of the 12 drawings was reprinted.

Printed on page 12 of the paper, the cartoon illustrated an article about the lack of impact of the controversy in Malaysia, a country with a majority Muslim population.

The newspaper apologised and expressed "profound regret over the unauthorised publication", in a front page statement on Sunday.


"Our internal inquiry revealed that the editor on duty, who was responsible for the same publication, had done it all alone by himself without authority in compliance with the prescribed procedures as required for such news," the statement said.

The editor, who has not been named, regretted his mistake, apologised and tendered his resignation, according to the statement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1703501,00.html?gusrc=rss

So much for the freedom of speech crap the danish news paper and the danish goverment told the world 1000 times.

Hope these makes you feel better:

Pure anti-semitism:




As a Catholic, I think this brings home an important point to our religious leaders:

 

[dilloduck]

muslims are demanding that you accept and belive what they belive or they will kill you.....btw did they all have danish flags at home?

well hell ---I know that. The US just can't get a handle on how to deal with them because we're so lost in our own bullshit.

 

[Bonnie]

Hope these makes you feel better:

Pure anti-semitism:




As a Catholic, I think this brings home an important point to our religious leaders:

And here is the icing on the cake

Cleric calls on Mohammed cartoonist to be executed
(Filed: 06/02/2006)

Omar Bakri Mohammed, the radical Muslim cleric, has said the cartoonist behind caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed that have sparked outrage across the Arab world should be tried and executed under Islamic law.
Omar Bakri Mohammed
The cleric said the cartoonist had insulted Islam and must pay the price, as three people were killed during protests against the cartoons in Afghanistan.

"The insult has been established now by everybody, Muslim and non-Muslim, and everybody condemns the cartoonist and condemns the cartoon," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"However, in Islam, God said, and the messenger Mohammed said, whoever insults a prophet, he must be punished and executed.

"This man should be put on trial and if it is proven to be executed."

The cleric said Muslims in Britain were not allowed to kill people who insulted Islam because it was against the law of the country.

"We are not saying ourselves to go there and start to look to him and kill him, we are not talking about that. We are talking about Islamic rules. If anybody insults the prophet, he will have to take a punishment."

He said if countries refused to put people on trial for insulting Mohammed they must "face the consequences".

Three people were killed and several were injured as protestors clashed with police in the central city of Mihtarlam.

It was the latest display of outrage against the cartoons, which were originally published in Denmark and have been reprinted in various European countries.

Protests in London over the weekend sparked concern over placards containing radical slogans.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ml&sSheet=/portal/2006/02/06/ixportaltop.html

 

[Gunny]

So if that's true, why shouldn't Islam be respected?

Respect is EARNED. Simple concept. Islam preaches xenophobic intolerance; which, I do not repsect.

 

[manu1959]

well hell ---I know that. The US just can't get a handle on how to deal with them because we're so lost in our own bullshit.

i would not lump the US into this....there are pople that think we can talk our way out of this issue.....muslims want them dead too

 

[dilloduck]

i would not lump the US into this....there are pople that think we can talk our way out of this issue.....muslims want them dead too

OK--the anti-muslim rhetoric is really getting old--thier holy book says to kill or convert. What should America do about it since we also have this thing in our constitution about freedom of religion---all religion. Doesn't that represent a stumbling block here?

 

[manu1959]

OK--the anti-muslim rhetoric is really getting old--thier holy book says to kill or convert. What should America do about it since we also have this thing in our constitution about freedom of religion---all religion. Doesn't that represent a stumbling block here?

if a religion advocates killing people that opose or make fun of their religion then they go to jail......in the us you are welocome to prctice your religion as long as it does not break the law.....the muslims come from a land where religion and laws are one in the same.....

 

[dilloduck]

if a religion advocates killing people that opose or make fun of their religion then they go to jail......in the us you are welocome to prctice your religion as long as it does not break the law.....the muslims come from a land where religion and laws are one in the same.....

Yup--so apparently the "moderate" muslims do not practice thier faith here and if they do they go to the slammer. Guess that's why we spy on em.
but-----what do we do about the religion in general? or are we hamstrung by our own laws.

 

[manu1959]

Yup--so apparently the "moderate" muslims do not practice thier faith here and if they do they go to the slammer. Guess that's why we spy on em.
but-----what do we do about the religion in general? or are we hamstrung by our own laws.

i do not believe it is US law that prevents the US from dealing with this issue.....i believe it is partisan politics that is generally the biggest obstacle to anything the US tries to accomplish

 

[dilloduck]

i do not believe it is US law that prevents the US from dealing with this issue.....i believe it is partisan politics that is generally the biggest obstacle to anything the US tries to accomplish

You think? It seems to me that both parties are scared shitless of the issue. Until some takes the hyphen off of Islamic- (terrorists, facist, extremist etc) we are still closing our eyes to the real problem and that is--

There is a RELIGION that condones killing. It's world wide. What should the US and the rest of the world do about it?

 

[musicman]

Perhaps it is true - as the editor plainly stated - that the Christian cartoons were just not funny. Perhaps it falls within the parameters of an editor's job to make such a determination. Perhaps a religion which demands death for the utterance of a discouraging word is not rooted in the concept of man's free agency. Perhaps governments established upon such are, then, tyrannies.

 

[dilloduck]

Perhaps it is true - as the editor plainly stated - that the Christian cartoons were just not funny. Perhaps it falls within the parameters of an editor's job to make such a determination. Perhaps a religion which demands death for the utterance of a discouraging word is not rooted in the concept of man's free agency. Perhaps governments established upon such are, then, tyrannies.

Theocracies are tyrannies ? If that's what you meant I would certainly agree but semantics are so dangerous here :funnyface

 

[manu1959]

You think? It seems to me that both parties are scared shitless of the issue. Until some takes the hyphen off of Islamic- (terrorists, facist, extremist etc) we are still closing our eyes to the real problem and that is--

There is a RELIGION that condones killing. It's world wide. What should the US and the rest of the world do about it?

neither party wants to lose votes taking a stand on this issue....i think you are correct

 

[musicman]

Theocracies are tyrannies ? If that's what you meant I would certainly agree but semantics are so dangerous here :funnyface

Absolutely. That's why I get so frustrated with people using the term "Christian theocracy"; it contradicts itself right out of the gate.

I think I'll kill the next son of a bitch I hear saying it...

 

[dilloduck]

Absolutely. That's why I get so frustrated with people using the term "Christian theocracy"; it contradicts itself right out of the gate.

I think I'll kill the next son of a bitch I hear saying it...

Tyrannies cloaked in clerical robes--hell it was clerics that brought those cartoons to the middle east and disseminated them there with the full intent of created havoc. The Islamic theocracies think they are so special that all other beliefs are to be eradicated. People really need to lose this " I'm so special attitude". NO ONE is that special.

 

[musicman]

Tyrannies cloaked in clerical robes--hell it was clerics that brought those cartoons to the middle east and disseminated them there with the full intent of created havoc. The Islamic theocracies think they are so special that all other beliefs are to be eradicated. People really need to lose this " I'm so special attitude". NO ONE is that special.

Any entity which fears man's free will is tyranny; kind of puts me in mind of the American Left!

 

[manu1959]

Tyrannies cloaked in clerical robes--hell it was clerics that brought those cartoons to the middle east and disseminated them there with the full intent of created havoc. The Islamic theocracies think they are so special that all other beliefs are to be eradicated. People really need to lose this " I'm so special attitude". NO ONE is that special.

which makes me wonder....these cartoons are from sept 05....why wait 5 months? why now?.....oh i know, hamas wins, syria and iran are both in the spotlight....time to wag the dog.....

 

[Bonnie]

musicmanAny entity which fears man's free will is tyranny; kind of puts me in mind of the American Left!

Surely not?!!! Perhaps that's what unites them to radical Islam?

 

[Abbey Normal]

There is a RELIGION that condones killing. It's world wide. What should the US and the rest of the world do about it?

If it happens in the U.S., we should prosecute the speaker(s) the way we prosecute any "hate speech", no?